Interesting, i too have tried a few nyc diesels, some of them were great, but for me the ECSD really stood out to me. But i appreciate your input. Everyone has different experiences and every strain effects people differently. You do have a point as well about the name of diesels as well.Yes I've had them both at the early dates when they arrived on scene. Whether something is "diesel" is irrelevant as nothing is actually diesel, it's just a description! A great cut of a great strain will create those fond memories The look and power of the original NYC was incredible. Sour D is terrific, but is common and everywhere nowadays. A good NYC diesel I havent seen in 10 years ar least.