Examples of Democratic Party leadership

[Roger A. Shrubber]

CNN, PBS, and the BBC are hyper leftist and constant spin. I don’t take NYPost as gospel. Are you saying until those reports I posted don’t exist until a leftist outlet say they exist? Such a strange way of living life

no, they aren't...they're anti trump, and anti fascism...that DOES NOT MAKE THEM LEFTIST...much less far left. "constant spin"?...they keep repeating the truth...the truth isn't "spin"....
i'm saying your news sources are way the fuck more biased than the ones you're calling biased...you're the one who has been brainwashed into believing horseshit is news, and being spoon fed more bullshit daily to confirm it...what do you think propagandist right wing fascist websites are going to do, tell you CNN, PBS, and the BBC are telling you the truth and they're lying?...but CNN, PBS, and the BBC are all fact checkable, and i've yet to find them in any kind of lie. any mistakes they make are admitted, and the correct information posted....i dare you...i triple fucking dog dare you to make the same claim about the NYP or freakbeacon...

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

I wonder why Nancy, Chuck, Mitch and Joe, never took care of the debt ceiling when they did the budget and took the car keys away from Kevin's house during the lame duck? No way can Kevin keep his majority together if he fucks with the debt ceiling, some moderates will defect for sure. We will see, but if the magats dig in on the debt ceiling, it will break his caucus and enough would vote with the democrats.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

I wonder why Nancy, Chuck, Mitch and Joe, never took care of the debt ceiling when they did the budget and took the car keys away from Kevin's house during the lame duck? No way can Kevin keep his majority together if he fucks with the debt ceiling, some moderates will defect for sure. We will see, but if the magats dig in on the debt ceiling, it will break his caucus and enough would vote with the democrats.

it would cause economic upheaval world wide...inflation would go fucking nuts, some smaller countries would go into an economic death spiral...they would be globally hated, it would make them political pariahs...but they're stupid motherfuckers...and they might do it out of spite, refusing to believe the consequences would crush them like the insects they are.

 

[sweetisland2009]

no, they aren't...they're anti trump, and anti fascism...that DOES NOT MAKE THEM LEFTIST...much less far left. "constant spin"?...they keep repeating the truth...the truth isn't "spin"....
i'm saying your news sources are way the fuck more biased than the ones you're calling biased...you're the one who has been brainwashed into believing horseshit is news, and being spoon fed more bullshit daily to confirm it...what do you think propagandist right wing fascist websites are going to do, tell you CNN, PBS, and the BBC are telling you the truth and they're lying?...but CNN, PBS, and the BBC are all fact checkable, and i've yet to find them in any kind of lie. any mistakes they make are admitted, and the correct information posted....i dare you...i triple fucking dog dare you to make the same claim about the NYP or freakbeacon...

you’re willfully ignoring anything in life that doesn’t fit your world view if you actually believe that. They keep repeating your truth that’s very apparent. Throwing around the word trump and fascist all the time doesn’t help your position at all. They are all opinionated all with an agenda to sway public perception. Who do they donate to? None of them are objective and they pit people against each other feeding the you vs me money tree.

They’re just as guilty as Fox; but the reality is fox was the direct marketing answer to modern media’s full left swing. It wouldn’t exist if a huge swath of the US population’s personal world views were not constantly smeared by these non objective media outlets. They capitalized on that and make a ton of money because of it.

Besides CSPAN, every “news” channel personality projects their own bias.

Newsbusters is on the right. But you cannot deny video clips and exact transcripts of those organizations they expose posing as news reporters. I know you won’t watch any of them, as that would challenge your own credibility in your previous statement. It doesn't change reality though. Page after page year after year of video evidence with plenty of bias and lies to choose from

PBS

PBS

PBS

www.newsbusters.org

MSNBC

MSNBC

MSNBC

www.newsbusters.org

CNN

CNN

CNN

www.newsbusters.org

ABC

ABC

ABC

www.newsbusters.org

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

you’re willfully ignoring anything in life that doesn’t fit your world view if you actually believe that. They keep repeating your truth that’s very apparent. Throwing around the word trump and fascist all the time doesn’t help your position at all. They are all opinionated all with an agenda to sway public perception. Who do they donate to? None of them are objective and they pit people against each other feeding the you vs me money tree.

They’re just as guilty as Fox; but the reality is fox was the direct marketing answer to modern media’s full left swing. It wouldn’t exist if a huge swath of the US population’s personal world views were not constantly smeared by these non objective media outlets. They capitalized on that and make a ton of money because of it.

Besides CSPAN, every “news” channel personality projects their own bias.

Newsbusters is on the right. But you cannot deny video clips and exact transcripts of those organizations they expose posing as news reporters. I know you won’t watch any of them, as that would challenge your own credibility in your previous statement. It doesn't change reality though. Page after page year after year of video evidence with plenty of bias and lies to choose from

PBS

PBS

PBS

www.newsbusters.org

MSNBC

MSNBC

MSNBC

www.newsbusters.org

CNN

CNN

CNN

www.newsbusters.org

ABC

ABC

ABC

www.newsbusters.org

What about all those white house republican staffers who testified at the J6 hearings? A lot of the interviews I see on professional media are ex republicans who share the view that Trump is a criminal and the GOP supports domestic terrorism.

Do you support limiting the debt ceiling? For instance.

 

[sweetisland2009]

What about all those white house republican staffers who testified at the J6 hearings? A lot of the interviews I see on professional media are ex republicans who share the view that Trump is a criminal and the GOP supports domestic terrorism.

Do you support limiting the debt ceiling? For instance.

I will never fear even the tiniest amount what happened on January 6th. It’s a completely dramatized event that will forever be used to distract. At no point was democracy in peril. The capital building isn’t the republic. I absolutely wish it had not happened. Tying elected officials to the actions of those individuals choices is a cop out to personal freedom and responsibility. How many people at that last rally or the people that “marched on Washington” actually went with the intent to do more than just be present to show their opinion and disappointment? Wasn’t it 10,000 on capital grounds, 2,000 of which behaved way too dramatically (pushing through barriers and clashing with police) with only about 700 arrested? I have no problem with people waiving ________ flags and protesting loudly but peacefully in other circumstances. Do you? Destruction of property and disobeying that established law enforcement presence is not ok. 700 idiots in the mix truly sucks but it isn’t the Republican voter or Trumps base.

Did I question the 2020 election? Absolutely. In the scope of misinformation shared by outlets, censorship on platforms, scripted propaganda for 4 plus years of anti Trump messaging across major news organizations - it’s no wonder people formed the opinions they did for Trump. The constant attacks on him from day in a sense created what he’s become now. He just kept upping his game of F you too, and sort of became a character and his own worst enemy. I truly believe if Democrats and their talking points were not parroted by media, and Paul Ryan and Jeff Sessions hadn’t been in the picture starting in 2017, things would have gone differently and both sides wouldn’t constantly be upping the ante. (I think cannabis would be legal too)

Did I have to eat up all of the voter fraud accusations Trump and many in the media projected in an attempt to affirm their personal beliefs? Nope. When I watched the messaging and public frustrations he shared for a couple months up to January 6th was I swayed or prompted to think of it as anything more than him trying to exhaust all of his options and put on the show for that? Nope. It reminded me of Hillary Clinton’s response after losing in 2016 (which in turn became the foundation for years of Russia conspiracy/stolen election/so on and so forth that people seem to forget) Trump’s microphone was just bigger.

Is Trump the messiah and imperfect? Not at all. I just don’t equate his voters to all the horrid things said by 7-10 people in this forum. I don’t want him to run again because he went way off message in the end and will always be focused on fighting those that are constantly fighting him.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

I will never fear even the tiniest amount what happened on January 6th. It’s a completely dramatized event that will forever be used to distract. At no point was democracy in peril. The capital building isn’t the republic. I absolutely wish it had not happened. Tying elected officials to the actions of those individuals choices is a cop out to personal freedom and responsibility. How many people at that last rally or the people that “marched on Washington” actually went with the intent to do more than just be present to show their opinion and disappointment? Wasn’t it 10,000 on capital grounds, 2,000 of which behaved way too dramatically (pushing through barriers and clashing with police) with only about 700 arrested? I have no problem with people waiving ________ flags and protesting loudly but peacefully in other circumstances. Do you? Destruction of property and disobeying that established law enforcement presence is not ok. 700 idiots in the mix truly sucks but it isn’t the Republican voter or Trumps base.

Did I question the 2020 election? Absolutely. In the scope of misinformation shared by outlets, censorship on platforms, scripted propaganda for 4 plus years of anti Trump messaging across major news organizations - it’s no wonder people formed the opinions they did for Trump. The constant attacks on him from day in a sense created what he’s become now. He just kept upping his game of F you too, and sort of became a character and his own worst enemy. I truly believe if Democrats and their talking points were not parroted by media, and Paul Ryan and Jeff Sessions hadn’t been in the picture starting in 2017, things would have gone differently and both sides wouldn’t constantly be upping the ante. (I think cannabis would be legal too)

Did I have to eat up all of the voter fraud accusations Trump and many in the media projected in an attempt to affirm their personal beliefs? Nope. When I watched the messaging and public frustrations he shared for a couple months up to January 6th was I swayed or prompted to think of it as anything more than him trying to exhaust all of his options and put on the show for that? Nope. It reminded me of Hillary Clinton’s response after losing in 2016 (which in turn became the foundation for years of Russia conspiracy/stolen election/so on and so forth that people seem to forget) Trump’s microphone was just bigger.

Is Trump the messiah and imperfect? Not at all. I just don’t equate his voters to all the horrid things said by 7-10 people in this forum. I don’t want him to run again because he went way off message in the end and will always be focused on fighting those that are constantly fighting him.

You will believe the judgement of the courts right?

 

[sweetisland2009]

Do you support limiting the debt ceiling? For instance.

I support Democratics making concessions to republicans because the electorate deemed that’s what they wanted by voting them into a majority in the House. Either side has to play their cards right but saying things like _______ are holding democracy hostage is disingenuous. This is the result of kicking the can by both parties who spend way too much money on pork. Balance the budget. I balance my checkbook they should too. Does that mean eliminating every social program? Nope. But I have a huge issue with the unholy alliance between democrats and republicans when it comes to spending. Printing money and redistributing wealth isn’t maintainable. The military industrial complex is wasteful with longstanding effects (I’m saying this as a former serviceman)

I support limiting the debt ceiling but that doesn’t really mean anything

 

[sweetisland2009]

You will believe the judgement of the courts right?

Yes I am curious to see what actually comes of it

 

[cannabineer]

Newsbusters

 

[sweetisland2009]

Newsbusters

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again - how do you even begin to dismiss the video evidence and the words coming out of their mouths??? What a silly attempt to dismiss reality. Of course they’re on the right (newsbusters) but what exactly is your point? Are the videos doctored? Are the transcripts modified?

 

[cannabineer]

again - how do you even begin to dismiss the video evidence and the words coming out of their mouths??? What a silly attempt to dismiss reality. Of course they’re on the right (newsbusters) but what exactly is your point? Are the videos doctored? Are the transcripts modified?

video is so manipulable that it is worthless. The Big Lie video “news” industry relies on malicious edits.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

I support Democratics making concessions to republicans because the electorate deemed that’s what they wanted by voting them into a majority in the House. Either side has to play their cards right but saying things like _______ are holding democracy hostage is disingenuous. This is the result of kicking the can by both parties who spend way too much money on pork. Balance the budget. I balance my checkbook they should too. Does that mean eliminating every social program? Nope. But I have a huge issue with the unholy alliance between democrats and republicans when it comes to spending. Printing money and redistributing wealth isn’t maintainable. The military industrial complex is wasteful with longstanding effects (I’m saying this as a former serviceman)

I support limiting the debt ceiling but that doesn’t really mean anything

The current GOP clown show in the house does not care about governing or policy. Do you really think Matt Gaetz and George Santos give a fuck about America or you? Fuck with the debt ceiling and it will either break their caucus or it will break America economically and everybody gets fucked, even people outside America.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

I support Democratics making concessions to republicans because the electorate deemed that’s what they wanted by voting them into a majority in the House. Either side has to play their cards right but saying things like _______ are holding democracy hostage is disingenuous. This is the result of kicking the can by both parties who spend way too much money on pork. Balance the budget. I balance my checkbook they should too. Does that mean eliminating every social program? Nope. But I have a huge issue with the unholy alliance between democrats and republicans when it comes to spending. Printing money and redistributing wealth isn’t maintainable. The military industrial complex is wasteful with longstanding effects (I’m saying this as a former serviceman)

I support limiting the debt ceiling but that doesn’t really mean anything

If they wanna cut social security and Medicare, then they should put it in a bill and pass it, not try and hold the country hostage by a bunch of insurrectionist looking to squirm out of accountably for J6.

 

[CunningCanuk]

I will never fear even the tiniest amount what happened on January 6th. It’s a completely dramatized event that will forever be used to distract. At no point was democracy in peril. The capital building isn’t the republic. I absolutely wish it had not happened. Tying elected officials to the actions of those individuals choices is a cop out to personal freedom and responsibility. How many people at that last rally or the people that “marched on Washington” actually went with the intent to do more than just be present to show their opinion and disappointment? Wasn’t it 10,000 on capital grounds, 2,000 of which behaved way too dramatically (pushing through barriers and clashing with police) with only about 700 arrested? I have no problem with people waiving ________ flags and protesting loudly but peacefully in other circumstances. Do you? Destruction of property and disobeying that established law enforcement presence is not ok. 700 idiots in the mix truly sucks but it isn’t the Republican voter or Trumps base.

Did I question the 2020 election? Absolutely. In the scope of misinformation shared by outlets, censorship on platforms, scripted propaganda for 4 plus years of anti Trump messaging across major news organizations - it’s no wonder people formed the opinions they did for Trump. The constant attacks on him from day in a sense created what he’s become now. He just kept upping his game of F you too, and sort of became a character and his own worst enemy. I truly believe if Democrats and their talking points were not parroted by media, and Paul Ryan and Jeff Sessions hadn’t been in the picture starting in 2017, things would have gone differently and both sides wouldn’t constantly be upping the ante. (I think cannabis would be legal too)

Did I have to eat up all of the voter fraud accusations Trump and many in the media projected in an attempt to affirm their personal beliefs? Nope. When I watched the messaging and public frustrations he shared for a couple months up to January 6th was I swayed or prompted to think of it as anything more than him trying to exhaust all of his options and put on the show for that? Nope. It reminded me of Hillary Clinton’s response after losing in 2016 (which in turn became the foundation for years of Russia conspiracy/stolen election/so on and so forth that people seem to forget) Trump’s microphone was just bigger.

Is Trump the messiah and imperfect? Not at all. I just don’t equate his voters to all the horrid things said by 7-10 people in this forum. I don’t want him to run again because he went way off message in the end and will always be focused on fighting those that are constantly fighting him.

 

[sweetisland2009]

video is so manipulable that it is worthless. The Big Lie video “news” industry relies on malicious edits.

Transcripts and multiple full length exchanges posted to that site month after month. It’s pretty cut and dry. The headline of each post shows their bias and the header at the top “exposing liberal media bias” clearly states their intention. But go ahead and close your eyes and plug your ears if it shelters you

(BTW Your sources would NEVER maliciously edit those they oppose right?)

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

you’re willfully ignoring anything in life that doesn’t fit your world view if you actually believe that. They keep repeating your truth that’s very apparent. Throwing around the word trump and fascist all the time doesn’t help your position at all. They are all opinionated all with an agenda to sway public perception. Who do they donate to? None of them are objective and they pit people against each other feeding the you vs me money tree.

They’re just as guilty as Fox; but the reality is fox was the direct marketing answer to modern media’s full left swing. It wouldn’t exist if a huge swath of the US population’s personal world views were not constantly smeared by these non objective media outlets. They capitalized on that and make a ton of money because of it.

Besides CSPAN, every “news” channel personality projects their own bias.

Newsbusters is on the right. But you cannot deny video clips and exact transcripts of those organizations they expose posing as news reporters. I know you won’t watch any of them, as that would challenge your own credibility in your previous statement. It doesn't change reality though. Page after page year after year of video evidence with plenty of bias and lies to choose from

PBS

PBS

PBS

www.newsbusters.org

MSNBC

MSNBC

MSNBC

www.newsbusters.org

CNN

CNN

CNN

www.newsbusters.org

ABC

ABC

ABC

www.newsbusters.org

a place can have a slight bias and not be telling outrageous lies...and if i know they have a slight bias, i can and do take that into account when i read their stories...if others aren't intelligent enough to do the same, they shouldn't be allowed to read the news, or vote, or tie their own fucking shoes...

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

I will never fear even the tiniest amount what happened on January 6th. It’s a completely dramatized event that will forever be used to distract.

good-fucking-bye...that is the single most ridiculous statement i will read today, and it's still before noon....
no more time to waste on someone who can believe that...

 

[cannabineer]

How do you intend on enforcing that? Sounds pretty fascist to want to limit one’s individual rights.



Considering you’re the one who initiated the conversation by responding to my factual post and are now all up in arms for me sharing my point of view; I’m sorry to see you go.

You endanger any claim to fact when you lie about the direct and ongoing effort at insurrection that found a local maximum in the insurgency of January 6.

 

[sweetisland2009]

You endanger any claim to fact when you lie about the direct and ongoing effort at insurrection that found a local maximum in the insurgency of January 6.

There is an effort for all kinds of fringe movements at all times in this country. If people vote a certain way that’s their choice. If someone crosses a line breaking a law they suffer the consequences (for the most part that is, those in power seem to have a special set of rules for themselves)

We will never agree on the subject or concerns you have regarding insurrectionists. I’m truly sorry it’s affected you so much.

None of that changes how biased the information you choose to consume is skewed