Autos flowering slower than ever

[Mr. Bakerton]

I have ran this strain from the same supplier a few times now. They have been extremely dependable. They are a 60 day seed to finish green crack. I love them. Fast, hungry and typically 2 to 3 ounces each. I keep notes and feel like I have these down. Well I did anyway..

Typically i plop these right into a 5 gallon pot of ocean forest once they pop. I add a serving of FF dry grow nutes into the soil too. From there on out its just water until preflower then I top dress with a dry FF flower nutes and add about an inch of FFOF on top. Nothing till finish. No pinching, no LST, no bending. Just short, quick single stem colas. Grow after grow these plants have finished 5 days within the 60 day window and pretty much all look the same.

My tap water is somewhat low in PH but being that the time in the pot is so short, the soil buffers the PH w/o showing stress.


anywho, In November i potted up a round with a CBD auto that was expected to finish a tad later. This round the plants seemed to jump out of the pot, growing bigger than I have ever seen the GC autos grow. Multiple stems all strong and tall comparably. Well the CBD came and went. The GC looked like it was suspended in preflower. I had a vacation coming up and these plants were supposed be long done so I rigged up an auto water of sorts and ultimately they suffered a due to extended overwatering. They looked awful. I came home, corrected the issue thought for sure the stress would hurry them along.. They seemed to go back into a bit of veg and put on an additional 6 inches while still somewhat looking like a heavy preflower..

Here we are today, the are very fragrant. Looking recovered for the most part. and still hanging out in a heavy preflower. We are at double the time expected. I know plants are going to take the time they need but this is different - I think. The heavy preflower stage lasting 2 months has me overly concerned.

If I had knew these were going to last longer than 60 days I would have / could have done things differently to keep them in optimal health for the journey. Whats going on?

 

[mr.sessemia]

What are the temps and humidity inside the cab
Without knowing that I'd be shooting in the dark . But off the cuff it dose look like there's a overwatering issue and could possibly be a nutrient lockout. You said you normally don't have a problem not PH'ing your water but the strain your running now might not be as forgiving as the other strains you've ran.If the PH is off that would explain a nutrient lockout. I'd suggest getting a PH meter asap P.H the water correctly dropping the nutes down to half or even a quarter strength and then letting it go from there. The 1st Pic looks like it's the beginnings of a Cal Mag Def the leaves look a little papery (calcium) and the purpling of the stems (typically magnesium) however a magnesium problem can also NOT be from toxicity or Def.....it could be a result of temperatures.
That's why temperatures and humidity are important info.....hope it helps

 

[Mr. Bakerton]

There are a few problems going on here for sure. I want planning on these autos growing for 105 days now as they are a 60 day strain.

Even today 5 don't look much different. I'm starting to think they are locked into a pre flower mode.

Humidity lights on 55 to 60. Lights off 70.

Temp lights out 68. Lights on 78

My pH is a tad low. I've switched to ro water though.

Maybe there was a mix up at the seed place?

 

[MannyPacs]

There are a few problems going on here for sure. I want planning on these autos growing for 105 days now as they are a 60 day strain.

Even today 5 don't look much different. I'm starting to think they are locked into a pre flower mode.

Humidity lights on 55 to 60. Lights off 70.

Temp lights out 68. Lights on 78

My pH is a tad low. I've switched to ro water though.

Maybe there was a mix up at the seed place?

If those are at day 105 I would cut losses bin em and start over.

 

[Mr. Bakerton]

If those are at day 105 I would cut losses bin em and start over.

Is this a thing that happens with autos?

Should I toss the other seeds in the pack or is it a stress related thing?

I've sent an email to the vendor.

 

[MannyPacs]

Is this a thing that happens with autos?

Should I toss the other seeds in the pack or is it a stress related thing?

I've sent an email to the vendor.

They look stressed. I don't know much about autos but from what you describe I would Cut them and plant some more and you'll be harvesting again in about 10 weeks. These sound like a headache

 

[Bspectral]

Iv seen it happen ,its definitely genetic, can happen indoors in a tent or it happens outside in the sunshine. Cull it....always have something else to backup any misfortunes.

 

[Scuzzman]

2-3 ounces per plant - waste of money/time cheaper to buy at that rate from a mate... to cold temps need to be higher , 18/6 lights or even 24 hour.
In my view I would grow autos in coco coir , soil to many issues and no time to fix .....

 

[Mr. Bakerton]

2-3 ounces per plant - waste of money/time cheaper to buy at that rate from a mate... to cold temps need to be higher , 18/6 lights or even 24 hour.
In my view I would grow autos in coco coir , soil to many issues and no time to fix .....

I think they are great to fit in between other grows. I actually very much enjoy them.

Soil has been doing them great. No need to fuss. Start with a good base and basically water till finish. No problems.

Doesn't seem like you might be familiar enough with autos to say why they are stuck in preflower?

 

[ProPheT 216]

They r probably not auto flowers is my first assumption even tho they are supposed to be. 2 you said if you knew these were gonna take longer than 60 days you would of done different.


all that leads me to 1 think this is your first grow, what did you grow that was a 60 day finisher? 2 y wouldnt you try 2 keep the plants healthy regardless? Did you just give up after 60 days?

 

[wierdly]

Looks like a re veg, maybe too much N? Its clawing in a couple of the pics. Flip lights to 12/12 or dim/raise lights til they start reaching upwards

 

[Mr. Bakerton]

They r probably not auto flowers is my first assumption even tho they are supposed to be. 2 you said if you knew these were gonna take longer than 60 days you would of done different.


all that leads me to 1 think this is your first grow, what did you grow that was a 60 day finisher? 2 y wouldnt you try 2 keep the plants healthy regardless? Did you just give up after 60 days?

Ah okay. Thats the answer I was looking for. Silly me forgot this was actually my first grow.

I'm pretty sure most of the answers to your reply are in the post. Sorry I just don't think this was helpful.

 

[Mr. Bakerton]

Iv seen it happen ,its definitely genetic, can happen indoors in a tent or it happens outside in the sunshine. Cull it....always have something else to backup any misfortunes.

Looking again this morning,. They put on new additional leaves and it looks like the buds sights are foxtailing. Though there really isn't any bud sights. It's super strange.

I'm just going to cut my losses here. I don't know if somehow it was stress triggered or just a bad bag of seed. Not sure I want to grow out that 5th one. There really wasn't any stresser that I can point to in the first 60 days, so I really think something was off from the get go.

 

[Bspectral]

They will be just fine ... just give them 25% of nute strength because theres only about 25% of roots growing smaller plants...remember to bottom wick feed them by hand slowly watch them take it in until it stops wicking , never leaving much wet to sit in...let them dry completely before wicking again ,probly 2 days ,and you will see how they drink and bloom for you.. they grow slower and stay smaller buds if they are kept wet and wet again.

 

[ProPheT 216]

Looking again this morning,. They put on new additional leaves and it looks like the buds sights are foxtailing. Though there really isn't any bud sights. It's super strange.

I'm just going to cut my losses here. I don't know if somehow it was stress triggered or just a bad bag of seed. Not sure I want to grow out that 5th one. There really wasn't any stresser that I can point to in the first 60 days, so I really think something was off from the get go.

All that time and your not gonna drop your lights to 12 12 and see if they are photos?

 

[Mr. Bakerton]

Gave them a chop. I cleaned up a few leaves for the pics to better show what I am seeing.

 

[MannyPacs]

Lol did you see that plant? Only a sucker for pain would keep going with it any further. Not even a greenthumb George could fix that thing

 

[Mr. Bakerton]

Iv seen it happen ,its definitely genetic, can happen indoors in a tent or it happens outside in the sunshine. Cull it....always have something else to backup any misfortunes.

You mention that you have seen this before. I have read in a few other forums that some people had said the same thing. Did you see that last pics i shared, is that similar to what you have seen?

This is the first I have ran into an issues with an auto.

 

[Bspectral]

Yes...they are no good to keep...I have seen a few revert to like normal budding from the look but most dont.... hope next bns are better.