DoubleAtotheRON
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Good luck in your search brother!... Hope you find something that works out for you.
Something to consider, no doubt. Ok, thanks again, man. Much appreciated.Well... I've never vegged one for 3 months, and it just took 4 to flower, so I just assumed that's the way it works... like I said, it was an experiment. Makes sense tho.. there's more biomass there to mature... for one plant.
Hi,Hello,
I happen to be looking for a new light today. Is there any reason you are staying away from HLG?
NopeHello,
I happen to be looking for a new light today. Is there any reason you are staying away from HLG?
Couldn't agree more.. competition is getting tough out there.I will only say this. The quality between high end lights and budget lights has narrowed considerably in the last few years. Can't really justify paying a premium any more. Theres a ton of bang for the buck in cheaper lights nowadays.
I agree, but, they have customer service that pushes them ahead I feel. Mistakes happen and they fix it and make it better thn just making it right. For an extra 200 - 500 bucks, I know years down the road I can contact them when I’m having issues, and they’re gonna fix it, no questions asked. Sometimes customer service is better thn just saving some money.Couldn't agree more.. competition is getting tough out there.
Light manufacturers are suddenly changing some of their specs from product they once sold. I owned 2 first gen SF 1000 spider farmers, now the board size, diode count and driver have changed. I will say they added a dimmer but sadly they raised the price.I agree, but, they have customer service that pushes them ahead I feel. Mistakes happen and they fix it and make it better thn just making it right. For an extra 200 - 500 bucks, I know years down the road I can contact them when I’m having issues, and they’re gonna fix it, no questions asked. Sometimes customer service is better thn just saving some money.
Nothing is getting cheaper for sure. Supplier are having to pay more for parts, shipping, etc. It's gotten crazy.Light manufacturers are suddenly changing some of their specs from product they once sold. I owned 2 first gen SF 1000 spider farmers, now the board size, diode count and driver have changed. I will say they added a dimmer but sadly they raised the price.
What blows my mind is how expensive it can be to grow and buy equipment. Thn, I can go to a shop here in NY and get oss’s for 80 beans. It’s just getting cheaper to buy thn do this.Nothing is getting cheaper for sure. Supplier are having to pay more for parts, shipping, etc. It's gotten crazy.
True... but, I like to know what's in my weed... or rather, NOT in it.What blows my mind is how expensive it can be to grow and buy equipment. Thn, I can go to a shop here in NY and get oss’s for 80 beans. It’s just getting cheaper to buy thn do this.
Peace of mind knowing what I used to grow the flower I consume and give out to friends and family is still worth the extra cost. I see the signs advertising low cost ounces. Most if not all of it has been machine trimmed so all the good stuff that was once on the flower could be used for all the other products the shops sell. The term "Good stuff" should be used lightly, my guess is it was grown using the cheapest and lowest quality nutrients the big ag growers could get their hands on.What blows my mind is how expensive it can be to grow and buy equipment. Thn, I can go to a shop here in NY and get oss’s for 80 beans. It’s just getting cheaper to buy thn do this.
I've seen it first hand myself..... I've been in some really disgusting grow ops.Peace of mind knowing what I used to grow the flower I consume and give out to friends and family is still worth the extra cost. I see the signs advertising low cost ounces. Most if not all of it has been machine trimmed so all the good stuff that was once on the flower could be used for all the other products the shops sell. The term "Good stuff" should be used lightly, my guess is it was grown using the cheapest and lowest quality nutrients the big ag growers could get their hands on.
My Dad always said "anything worth doing is worth doing right" I may not be the greatest grower but I don't cut corners with my growing.I've seen it first hand myself..... I've been in some really disgusting grow ops.
Could you name some of these "budget" lights please? That's sort of related to what this thread is about.I will only say this. The quality between high end lights and budget lights has narrowed considerably in the last few years. Can't really justify paying a premium any more. Theres a ton of bang for the buck in cheaper lights nowadays.
I feel ya. Ten years ago I remember smoking Mexican brick weed. I never once questioned it, now I’d rather not smoke anything like that. Honestly, the black market here is still choice.True... but, I like to know what's in my weed... or rather, NOT in it.
I’ve gotten ripoff HLG quantum boards rated at 240 or 250 watts off eBay for 100-150 bucks. I’ve bought like 5 I bet. I’ve given them to friends and honestly, they grow shit just as good as I’ve seen people grow with actual HLG boards. I like to offer low bids on eBay and I’ll wait until I get a deal on what I want.Could you name some of these "budget" lights please? That's sort of related to what this thread is about.
Thanks.
Edit: Oh, and their direct or closest comparison product in the "high end"/premium category. I'm not trying to start an argument, just trying to think about it realistically and see what some comparisons might be.
Don’t get me wrong, I like clean bud lol. Advanced nutrients are getting expensive to run the line every grow in a 25 gallon undercurrent system that I change every week, plus the remote that chews thru another two gallons a day when they get bigger. I love doing it though.Peace of mind knowing what I used to grow the flower I consume and give out to friends and family is still worth the extra cost. I see the signs advertising low cost ounces. Most if not all of it has been machine trimmed so all the good stuff that was once on the flower could be used for all the other products the shops sell. The term "Good stuff" should be used lightly, my guess is it was grown using the cheapest and lowest quality nutrients the big ag growers could get their hands on.