hotrodharley
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Any chance at all is too much of a chance. But how can anyone know the true source of most seeds?In seeds it is a rarity. A possibility, but a pretty remote one.
Any chance at all is too much of a chance. But how can anyone know the true source of most seeds?In seeds it is a rarity. A possibility, but a pretty remote one.
It’s already reported throughout the industry that a bleach solution of 10-20% kills the virus. So mother rooms need to stop being lazy and clean their shit appropriately.Do you reckon a hydrogen peroxide seed soak like you do with field harvested or old ass seeds would help or do you think if they got it thats that ? Its scary shit this
Absolutely true.Oh its true alright.
Coincidentally I opened youtube yesterday and this was broadcasting live. So I clicked on it and the dude was talking about how people confuse Dark Horse with Dark Heart all of the time.Oh, my bad. I thought it said "Horse" not "Heart."
So what should we just lay down and accept this bullshit?? Don't let fear stop you from doing your thing people.Any chance at all is too much of a chance. But how can anyone know the true source of most seeds?
It’s just a word to the wise. And useless information to the rest of you. Why did you even bother reading it if you know better? Just curious.So what should we just lay down and accept this bullshit?? Don't let fear stop you from doing your thing people.
Yeah man i had heard that bleach is more effective vs alcohol but still never hurts to double checkIt’s already reported throughout the industry that a bleach solution of 10-20% kills the virus. So mother rooms need to stop being lazy and clean their shit appropriately.
It’s not a virus eh? It’s viroid and the difference is vast.Yeah man i had heard that bleach is more effective vs alcohol but still never hurts to double check
"The removal of viroid-infected plants, and the sanitation of equipment, tools and of the vicinity of the viroid-infected plants are critical to checking the spread of the viroid in both fields and in indoor growth facilities. Heating blades at 160 °C for 10 min was found to be effective, while doing so at 140 °C was not. These measures have seen the virtual elimination of HSVd from the Kirin Brewery yards in Japan [10]. Among the different heat and chemical treatments tested for tool sanitation against viroids, the most reliable and widely used one is an aqueous solution of at least 5% household bleach (sodium hypochlorite, minimum 1% available chlorine)"You’re wasting supplies and efforts trying to kill this because it’s not alive in the sense of dying. It’s a single RNA strand. The bleach cleaning of equipment is advisable for preventing or controlling other pathogens but you’re cracking rat turds trying to mitigate this. WHY IT IS SO DANGEROUS TO THE INDUSTRY! Think these places collectively haven’t tried just about anything to get on top of it?
“"The removal of viroid-infected plants, and the sanitation of equipment, tools and of the vicinity of the viroid-infected plants are critical to checking the spread of the viroid in both fields and in indoor growth facilities. Heating blades at 160 °C for 10 min was found to be effective, while doing so at 140 °C was not. These measures have seen the virtual elimination of HSVd from the Kirin Brewery yards in Japan [10]. Among the different heat and chemical treatments tested for tool sanitation against viroids, the most reliable and widely used one is an aqueous solution of at least 5% household bleach (sodium hypochlorite, minimum 1% available chlorine)"
Directly quoted from the paper you linked. You should read it
holy smokes i was about too come on here and say MY CLONE HAS HLVD! because its not frosty like my other plants and the main top nug looks sick but after seeing your photos i realize i have nothing wrong with my plants you sir have a real problem on your hands!Theres also another unnamed/unidentified plague to me, and many others thats affecting weed.
For one thing. We have been growing weed since 1978. And in reality I grew my 1st plant in 1972. But got serious interest when they started using HID for indoor gardening, in 1977-78.
But we, especially my buddy, he was the most outdoor cultivator, and me more indoors.
But in about the past 10 years, we, and others from Hawaii-South Africa have noted a purple/black type of disease, for any other realy name for whatever it is.
And NO. Its not genetic. Its not because of cold weather, to much water on leaves, phosphorus deficiency, PH.
My guess after dony some reserch is that it is a Phytoplasma, transmitted by bugs, mainly Leafhoppers. While leafhoppers have always been around, Ive never seen so many leafhoppers as that Ive seen the last 10 years.
The first sign usually starts right before flowering, though it can start earlier, but the general observation by my buddy is it comes on right before they switch to flowering.
It starts out a a slight purple tinge, in the growing tips, and spreads to the leaves, and stems/stalk. It starts out as light purple, and at its worst, turns into a deep purple black, which pften spreads to the whole plant, killing it. Though sometimes they grow out of it, but usually compromised, though some are ok..
This had been noted over the past several years on this forum, and a few other forums. THCFarmer probably having the most onfo and photos and experiences with the disease.
Like I said, I theorize its a bacterial/viral infection/phytoplasma, carried mainly by leafhoppers, but can also be transmitted by other chewing bugs.
Over the last 10 years my buddy has lost at least 2000 plants. Maybe more. It never happens inside using the same genetic material. It also happens in plots 20 miles apart. And as has been noted, from Hawaii, to South Africa.
Heres some photos.
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