GenericEnigma
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I've listened to and read many of his statements over the years. He is sealioning for fascists and anti-semites. Full stop.Did any of you listen to his explanation, or just read headlines and condemn him?
I've listened to and read many of his statements over the years. He is sealioning for fascists and anti-semites. Full stop.Did any of you listen to his explanation, or just read headlines and condemn him?
Okay. Cite some examples?I've listened to and read many of his statements over the years. He is sealioning for fascists and anti-semites. Full stop.
E.g., one can criticize Israel legitimately. But to compare it to Nazi Germany is absolutely ridiculous.Okay. Cite some examples?
That's all you've got? Come on, man.E.g., one can criticize Israel legitimately. But to compare it to Nazi Germany is absolutely ridiculous.
Plenty of examples to go around. Just ask some of his contemporaries, especially those who have know him a long time: David Gilmore.
I'm an old fan and it breaks my heart, too. Took me a while to accept it.That's all you've got? Come on, man.
He suggested Ukraine sue for peace while torn apart by Vladolf’s war of aggression. He’s ok with naked fascism consuming other nations.To call a guy antisemitic for standing up against an apartheid state is wild. Has he ever said anything actually antisemitic? Please find me that. The Wall was condemning nazism. Do you understand how context works?
Yes, he's a pacifist. Like most of the left before Obama took office. Remember Crimea?He suggested Ukraine sue for peace while torn apart by Vladolf’s war of aggression. He’s ok with naked fascism consuming other nations.
Roger Waters: I'm on a Ukrainian 'Kill List'
In an explosive, wide-ranging interview, the Pink Floyd co-founder discusses his controversial views on Ukraine — and Russia, and Wikileaks, and Israel, and so much more.www.rollingstone.com
Legitimizing Vladolf’s aggression is incompatible with pacifism. He’s blaming the victim.Yes, he's a pacifist. Like most of the left before Obama took office. Remember Crimea?
He was born into the fallout of a war torn country. Maybe he has an understanding that you or I don't?Legitimizing Vladolf’s aggression is incompatible with pacifism. He’s blaming the victim.
It's not that he criticized Israel, it's how he did it.To call a guy antisemitic for standing up against an apartheid state is wild. Has he ever said anything actually antisemitic? Please find me that. The Wall was condemning nazism. Do you understand how context works?
I saw the taped interview last year.He was born into the fallout of a war torn country. Maybe he has an understanding that you or I don't?
Bold font helps people understand. Good move.It's not that he criticized Israel, it's how he did it.
The Wall was basically a Waters autobiography. What was the headspace of the protagonist at the end?
Few antisemites come out and actually say what they mean. I doubt I would find a quote from Waters explicitly denouncing Jewish people.
Given your straw man and ad hominem, I don't think you really want to know. Just to convince others of what you think.
How many antisemites make a rock opera condemning nazism?It's not that he criticized Israel, it's how he did it.
The Wall was basically a Waters autobiography. What was the headspace of the protagonist at the end?
Few antisemites come out and actually say what they mean. I doubt I would find a quote from Waters explicitly denouncing Jewish people.
Given your straw man and ad hominem, I don't think you really want to know. Just to convince others of what you think.
He seems to be here to push a perspective, not to examine it. The string of non sequitur about 40+ -year-old music fits in with it.It's not that he criticized Israel, it's how he did it.
The Wall was basically a Waters autobiography. What was the headspace of the protagonist at the end?
Few antisemites come out and actually say what they mean. I doubt I would find a quote from Waters explicitly denouncing Jewish people.
Given your straw man and ad hominem, I don't think you really want to know. Just to convince others of what you think.
Is Putin a Nazi?
Have you seen the movie? It's a pretty strong theme.I never took the wall album as a commentary on fascism or authoritarianism, seemed more about wrestling with one's own mental demons.