CANON_Grow
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Maybe tomorrow someone will explain to all how Auschwitz wasn't really that bad of a place.....
Keep your head in the sand, cleaner air down there anyway.
Keep your head in the sand, cleaner air down there anyway.
Arbeit macht freiMaybe tomorrow someone will explain to all how Auschwitz wasn't really that bad of a place.....
Keep your head in the sand, cleaner air down there anyway.
Found your leader...The same underlying ideology exists and is implemented today in a present day context, funny that as far as I know the term genocide was not coined over a hundred years ago...we blur the lines between today and yesterdays standards. Life isn't fair and hindsight is 20/20, we can 'deem' many outcomes as bad, but 'deeming' my children and grandchildren as financially responsible, and being forced to 'use' their own honestly earned money to equal, repay, or somehow repair 'deemed', 'genocide' is an affront. Perhaps I just should have said "YES" my bad...
Comparing our system of residential schools to Auschwitz is much worse than keeping MY head in YOUR proverbial sand. You're inferring I'm a Nazi sympathizer? Pretty low...Auschwitz
That's a quote full of rascist frustration. Why I don't trust any politician. Seeing as I have faith in a free(ish) Constitutional Monarchy, I do excercise my right to vote. We have a few choices federally, but it boils down to 2 parties, with one third party (Thankfully) as those who will take 'power'. Identity politics (started as political satire when drawing was invented) and knee-jerk 'NOWism' have created a 'caste filter' directly associating support of a particular leader with the approval of their lowest personal achievements and deeply polarized a wide spectrum of beliefs into an extremist label.Found your leader...
I'm not inferring you are a Nazi sympathizer. Maybe you should go read up on the residential schools and see why I would reference Auschwitz. Read up on what Dr. Bryce documented, to the standards of 100 years ago. The parallels to the gas chambers via tuberculosis.....Comparing our system of residential schools to Auschwitz is much worse than keeping MY head in YOUR proverbial sand. You're inferring I'm a Nazi sympathizer? Pretty low...
How so?Comparing our system of residential schools to Auschwitz is much worse than keeping MY head in YOUR proverbial sand.
I agree about hindsight and comparing past events with today's standards. How many families scraped on by while saving enough to send their eldest to go to school and benefit the family? The powers that be were not inventing the wheel, a lot of well off families sent their kids away to school way back when and I am pretty sure some kids felt bad, that some of the older kids bullied others. Heck, when I was debating going to university I said there is no way I will let other student haze me. Stuff that went on that forty years later we frown on.The same underlying ideology exists and is implemented today in a present day context, funny that as far as I know the term genocide was not coined over a hundred years ago...we blur the lines between today and yesterdays standards. Life isn't fair and hindsight is 20/20, we can 'deem' many outcomes as bad, but 'deeming' my children and grandchildren as financially responsible, and being forced to 'use' their own honestly earned money to equal, repay, or somehow repair 'deemed', 'genocide' is an affront. Perhaps I just should have said "YES" my bad...
I absolutely agree with you on this (except the cheap part lol). Just to keep this serious matter, (which potheads like me thrive on) a bit light hearted, the quote "you can pay me now or pay me later" was coined (or popularized) by a Fram Oil filter commercial in the late 70's... mechanics are the best LOL. Well put 'rambling' sir...kudos.A lot of rambling to say it is not a one size fits all solution to the problems Natives faced. What might have looked good on paper with the schools did not work out as planned in practice. If they spent the money and did things right back then we might not have the problems we have. The money may have helped some that received it, not sure if it will fix any of the structural problems we have. But it is the cheap way to brush the school problem under the carpet.
I disagree the intent of residential schools was ONLY to collect and exterminate Indigenous people. Or to benefit Canada, solely by running biological experiments on all of these people. Thats why I reject the comparison.How so?
I never said it was 'good', I said the intention was good and it still stands as valid and is applied today. Its easy to condemn outcomes that aren't perfect by your or our standards today, without any relevant comparison to alternatives that came out any better. We all had/have a public education system thrust upon us as ignorance and want are the persvasive devils that drive most society ills. Before public schools, and municipal government formation ,the church (in various forms) were responsible for education, healthcare, and most other social programs, that our (and European) forming country and civilization reaped the benefit of. I'm sure a lot of 'victims' of the Foster care programs feel the same way of the present system, and most of them are NOT getting any compensation. Harsh reality of life isn't fair. Money does not make things 'right'.you'll understand why it's so offensive to believe it wasn't that bad.
youshould probably brush up on some history ....yikesI disagree the intent of residential schools was ONLY to collect and exterminate Indigenous people. Or to benefit Canada, solely by running biological experiments on all of these people. Thats why I reject the comparison.
Regarding a report in 1907, yes, 1907:I never said it was 'good', I said the intention was good and it still stands as valid and is applied today. Its easy to condemn outcomes that aren't perfect by your or our standards today, without any relevant comparison to alternatives that came out any better. We all had/have a public education system thrust upon us as ignorance and want are the persvasive devils that drive most society ills. Before public schools, and municipal government formation ,the church (in various forms) were responsible for education, healthcare, and most other social programs, that our (and European) forming country and civilization reaped the benefit of. I'm sure a lot of 'victims' of the Foster care programs feel the same way of the present system, and most of them are NOT getting any compensation. Harsh reality of life isn't fair. Money does not make things 'right'.
As per"so offensive to believe" yeah, more totalitarian jargon...to put it mildly... no offense,
We have disagreement from the uninformed. How much weight do you suppose that carries?I disagree the intent of residential schools was ONLY to collect and exterminate Indigenous people. Or to benefit Canada, solely by running biological experiments on all of these people. Thats why I reject the comparison.
You think the intention was good when the government forcibly removed children from their families and told them everything they’ve been taught so far, including language, was garbage?I never said it was 'good', I said the intention was good and it still stands as valid and is applied today. Its easy to condemn outcomes that aren't perfect by your or our standards today, without any relevant comparison to alternatives that came out any better. We all had/have a public education system thrust upon us as ignorance and want are the persvasive devils that drive most society ills. Before public schools, and municipal government formation ,the church (in various forms) were responsible for education, healthcare, and most other social programs, that our (and European) forming country and civilization reaped the benefit of. I'm sure a lot of 'victims' of the Foster care programs feel the same way of the present system, and most of them are NOT getting any compensation. Harsh reality of life isn't fair. Money does not make things 'right'.
As per"so offensive to believe" yeah, more totalitarian jargon...to put it mildly... no offense,
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/how-myth-liberal-north-erases-long-history-white-violence-180975661/You think the intention was good when the government forcibly removed children from their families and told them everything they’ve been taught so far, including language, was garbage?
fox news needs to be shut the fuck down permanently in the US...if the rest of the world wants to watch lies and hate, they should just watch the republican channels on cspan