Spy Balloon!

Roger A. Shrubber

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Roger A. Shrubber

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They will send up a bunch of balloons just to have you waste missiles.
the kind of missiles they use for that shit are cheap, and you can't just allow a foreign power to fly spy equipment over your country with no response.
It's either shoot them down, or shut them down at the source...which do you prefer?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
the kind of missiles they use for that shit are cheap, and you can't just allow a foreign power to fly spy equipment over your country with no response.
It's either shoot them down, or shut them down at the source...which do you prefer?
are they cheap? Which one would you use? You cannot really home on radar or IR. Not sure we have one that’ll work with a laser designator.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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are they cheap? Which one would you use? You cannot really home on radar or IR. Not sure we have one that’ll work with a laser designator.
looks like i made an assumption and was wrong, it's not easy to shoot them down, which leaves the shut them down at the source option...which is much worse. The option of leaving them in place seems like an incredibly bad idea. So it starts with ultimatums, and progresses from there...
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
looks like i made an assumption and was wrong, it's not easy to shoot them down, which leaves the shut them down at the source option...which is much worse. The option of leaving them in place seems like an incredibly bad idea. So it starts with ultimatums, and progresses from there...
we’re supposed to have’m now, and a balloon envelope is a good target

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Roger A. Shrubber

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looks like i made an assumption and was wrong, it's not easy to shoot them down, which leaves the shut them down at the source option...which is much worse. The option of leaving them in place seems like an incredibly bad idea. So it starts with ultimatums, and progresses from there...
although a balloon platform much like the ones they're using to spy, fit with propellers instead of having to rely on altitude corrections to change it's course, seems like it ought to be a fairly effective counter weapon. a couple of pounds of explosives detonated in close proximity should do the job, i should think, especially if coupled with a few pounds of BBs, and probably a lot cheaper than missiles, or the equipment it will be destroying.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
although a balloon platform much like the ones they're using to spy, fit with propellers instead of having to rely on altitude corrections to change it's course, seems like it ought to be a fairly effective counter weapon. a couple of pounds of explosives detonated in close proximity should do the job, i should think, especially if coupled with a few pounds of BBs, and probably a lot cheaper than missiles, or the equipment it will be destroying.
it would be like snail jousting
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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it would be like snail jousting
They can't add much in the way of propulsion to their package, to gather the information they want, be able to transmit it, and stay at the altitudes they need to, to escape most retaliation. We could build a platform with minimal instrumentation, and several vector propellers. send it up from a spot where the winds will carry it in the right direction, and immediately start towards it. even if they try to move it, their only option will be to change altitude, which they also have a limited ability to do...and won't really help them, anyway.
wait till they're over water or open land and kamikaze them. not ideal, might take a day or two to arrange just right, but it's cheap, and could probably be mostly automated, just check on it every couple of hours.
 
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printer

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Meet the Sidewinder—the $400,000 missile of choice for shooting down suspected Chinese spy balloons and mystery UFOs
As mysteries continue to swirl around the balloon and three other so-far-unidentified objects shot down by the US in recent days, one thing at least has been clear: the weaponry used to knock them out of the sky. Be it the original alleged Chinese surveillance balloon downed off South Carolina, or the as-yet-unknown objects targeted over Alaska, Michigan and Canada, all have met their demise by the same type of missile — the AIM-9X Sidewinder.

The US Department of Defense is seeking to procure 255 of the missiles for $111.9 million in the 2023 financial year. That comes out to a cost of $439,000 each. But there are significant discounts involved and other countries will usually need to pay for associated equipment, parts and training costs as well. Malaysia sought to procure just 20 for an estimated AIM-9X-2 missiles for $52 million in 2011, for example, after including such secondary costs.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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they’re at it again.

they have some fucking audacity...If anyone says anything, they'll act like the injured party, while they're busy spying on the entire fucking planet.
I'd just start sanctioning the fucking SHIT out of them, not one fucking duty free package, not one fucking etsy, teemu, or alibaba box, and not one item of technology from the western world. They need to learn how to mind their own fucking business.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
they have some fucking audacity...If anyone says anything, they'll act like the injured party, while they're busy spying on the entire fucking planet.
I'd just start sanctioning the fucking SHIT out of them, not one fucking duty free package, not one fucking etsy, teemu, or alibaba box, and not one item of technology from the western world. They need to learn how to mind their own fucking business.
Those firms are a sore spot with me.

I’d also like to give Amazon incentive to sell more G7 wares. I have real trouble finding domestic or Euro wares on that site. It’s all obvious crap with unlikely brand names. And I’d rather not drive 3h round trip for a Norton flap wheel.

 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Those firms are a sore spot with me.

I’d also like to give Amazon incentive to sell more G7 wares. I have real trouble finding domestic or Euro wares on that site. It’s all obvious crap with unlikely brand names. And I’d rather not drive 3h round trip for a Norton flap wheel.

i am intrigued...what do you do with those? And why is coffee frequently bought with them, according to Amazon?
 
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