Climate in the 21st Century

[DIY-HP-LED]

with a Republican House?

That problem is international, and I posted a video on it a few days back, the just have a think guy was reviewing a UN report.

 

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That problem is international, and I posted a video on it a few days back, the just have a think guy was reviewing a UN report.

Ok then —
with the global shift to the right?

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Ok then —
with the global shift to the right?

We will see if the suicide squad wins on this one, recent extreme weather events and improving green options with lower costs are and will change minds. Hearts, minds and wallets make change along with votes and shifting demographics.

 

[cannabineer]

We will see if the suicide squad wins on this one, recent extreme weather events and improving green options with lower costs are and will change minds. Hearts, minds and wallets make change along with votes and shifting demographics.

Changing minds from the bottom up would be futile if the legislators dig in. US right now is an object lesson in the fragility of representative government. An entire party of two that matter has gone rogue and seen no consequence so far.
All over the G-20 right-populist politicians are lying to get elected, then taking wrecking balls to social democracy.

So, if the ruling class continue to successfully detach from democracy, how to implement the previously bolded?

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Changing minds from the bottom up would be futile if the legislators dig in. US right now is an object lesson in the fragility of representative government. An entire party of two that matter has gone rogue and seen no consequence so far.
All over the G-20 right-populist politicians are lying to get elected, then taking wrecking balls to social democracy.

So, if the ruling class continue to successfully detach from democracy, how to implement the previously bolded?

The shift to the right is a result of local cultural disintegration, or fear of it in the face of globalization. In America it takes the form of white trash nationalism and the perception that they are under siege by minorities. It sets up a war like frame of mind in its adherents and is expressed as culture wars in most places and political polarization. Many countries with small cultures and minority language speakers feel threatened, especially in Europe. It is a reaction to societies moving towards multicultural societies and that is useful for a place like the EU. In Canada Pierre Trudeau was a pioneer of multiculturalism decades ago. These days when people come, they do so by air, they don't integrate as quickly, with the internet and connections back home, also they can afford to travel halfway around the world for family visits and social events each year. Most can watch TV from back home or on the internet and read newspapers in their native language.

 

[cannabineer]

The shift to the right is a result of local cultural disintegration, or fear of it in the face of globalization. In America it takes the form of white trash nationalism and the perception that they are under siege by minorities. It sets up a war like frame of mind in its adherents and is expressed as culture wars in most places and political polarization. Many countries with small cultures and minority language speakers feel threatened, especially in Europe. It is a reaction to societies moving towards multicultural societies and that is useful for a place like the EU. In Canada Pierre Trudeau was a pioneer of multiculturalism decades ago. These days when people come, they do so by air, they don't integrate as quickly, with the internet and connections back home, also they can afford to travel halfway around the world for family visits and social events each year. Most can watch TV from back home or on the internet and read newspapers in their native language.

It ain’t local.

Europe swings right — and reshapes the EU

Italy, Finland, Greece have recently moved. Spain could be next. The shift will affect everything from climate policy to migration.

www.politico.eu

The map is four years old. There’s a better one in the article, but it won’t copy. In the meantime Poland, Italy and Slovakia have elected right-populist governments, and AfD in Germany (Nazis, essentially) has made gains

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

It ain’t local.

Europe swings right — and reshapes the EU

Italy, Finland, Greece have recently moved. Spain could be next. The shift will affect everything from climate policy to migration.

www.politico.eu

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The map is four years old. There’s a better one in the article, but it won’t copy. In the meantime Poland, Italy and Slovakia have elected right-populist governments, and AfD in Germany (Nazis, essentially) has made gains

While it is tempting to lump all the right in with climate change deniers, I don't think this is the case in Europe. In America and Canada there is more of a correlation, mainly due to the corrupt nature of their leadership. Those who vote republican might feel differently about climate change than their leadership, but it's like the economy, the base has other priorities. I don't think the shift to the right in Europe will translate into climate denial on a political level as it does in America. Polling on climate change is not evenly divided, the GOP are pissing against the wind there too.

What the data says about Americans’ views of climate change

Two-thirds of Americans say the United States should prioritize developing renewable energy sources over expanding the production of fossil fuels.

www.pewresearch.org

 

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Can EVs and solar save the world? The IEA thinks so

The IEA today released its 2023 Net Zero Roadmap – here's what's happened since 2021, and what must urgently happen before 2030.

electrek.co

 

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I think we will do better than lowering emissions by 25% and like solar we will beat the projections using cheap solar and batteries along with EVs. The petroleum markets should be feeling lots of pain by 2030 with decreased demand and increased taxes.

https://www.ft.com/content/44f71221-f99f-4d44-a46d-4255c085f199

Fossil fuel demand must fall by a quarter by 2030 to limit global warming, IEA says
Governments need to step up clean energy supply to avoid shortages and price jumps, agency warns



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Fossil fuel demand must fall by a quarter by the end of this decade if governments want to limit the rise in global warming to 1.5C since the pre-industrial period, the International Energy Agency has concluded.

Coal, oil and natural gas will all need to be replaced by clean energy at a rapid rate to keep the world on track to cut greenhouse gas emissions to net zero by 2050, the OECD-funded energy watchdog said in its annual assessment.

The projections are the latest warning for the oil and gas sector since the IEA stunned the industry in 2021 when it said there was no room for new exploration projects if global warming limits thresholds were to be met.

The agency’s latest projections come at a time of rising tensions with oil producers ahead of UN climate talks in the UAE in 10 weeks, with the Opec cartel accusing the IEA of stoking “volatility” and scaring off investors.

The oil and gas industry has also attempted to undermine the IEA projections, stepping up the rhetoric last week at a biennial conference in Calgary.

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[DIY-HP-LED]

The first of many such systems and they can be programmed to top up the house battery from the grid when rates are low and even sell it back when rates are high, to a limited extent. Better cheaper batteries are the key to such systems offering energy independence for the home and transportation, economics drives behavior in many cases. We already have cheap solar and it's getting cheaper, better and more flexible, with products like solar roofing shingles and tiles for residential use, solar will be integrated right into the roof. Better cheaper batteries are on the way with mass production startups and new battery types, not just EVs, but the emerging home power storage market too.

The first of many such packages and complete kits, there should be many more in the coming years and for an electrician, or certified technician, there should be plenty of work for a long time.

Panasonic introduces half-cut HJT residential solar module and more

The company released new modules, a home battery system and energy management device.

pv-magazine-usa.com

 

[cannabineer]

While it is tempting to lump all the right in with climate change deniers, I don't think this is the case in Europe. In America and Canada there is more of a correlation, mainly due to the corrupt nature of their leadership. Those who vote republican might feel differently about climate change than their leadership, but it's like the economy, the base has other priorities. I don't think the shift to the right in Europe will translate into climate denial on a political level as it does in America. Polling on climate change is not evenly divided, the GOP are pissing against the wind there too.

What the data says about Americans’ views of climate change

Two-thirds of Americans say the United States should prioritize developing renewable energy sources over expanding the production of fossil fuels.

www.pewresearch.org

It’s not not the case in Europe (if these people tell true).
But it’s less the case than in US, where the politicization of climate policy is extreme.

Expert Comment: European public opinion on climate change has become politicised | University of Oxford

Reaching climate consensus at the inter-governmental level at COP27 will not be made easier by political divisions between voters.By Professor Stephen Fisher, Professor of Political Sociology

www.ox.ac.uk

 

[Mephisto666]

While it is tempting to lump all the right in with climate change deniers, I don't think this is the case in Europe. In America and Canada there is more of a correlation, mainly due to the corrupt nature of their leadership. Those who vote republican might feel differently about climate change than their leadership, but it's like the economy, the base has other priorities. I don't think the shift to the right in Europe will translate into climate denial on a political level as it does in America. Polling on climate change is not evenly divided, the GOP are pissing against the wind there too.

What the data says about Americans’ views of climate change

Two-thirds of Americans say the United States should prioritize developing renewable energy sources over expanding the production of fossil fuels.

www.pewresearch.org

Funny correlation between immigrants and the rise of nationalism/fascism

The unique aspect of Europe was that each country was homogeneous and really never interacted that much with each other besides the aristocracy fuçking each other, some trade and lots and lots of wars.

Then came this truly alien phenomenon, outsiders coming to live with them and that was something to be feared.

Their purity was/is being threatened.

The US never ever was homogeneous and no matter the hype of this nation being a melting pot, it never will be.

The EU is not heading there, it's there already.

It's a new World order for them, but we have been there for 100's of years and I don't think they'll like it very much, at all.

Nope, not one little bit.

 

[cannabineer]

Funny correlation between immigrants and the rise of nationalism/fascism

The unique aspect of Europe was that each country was homogeneous and really never interacted that much with each other besides the aristocracy fuçking each other, some trade and lots and lots of wars.

Then came this truly alien phenomenon, outsiders coming to live with them and that was something to be feared.

Their purity was/is being threatened.

The US never ever was homogeneous and no matter the hype of this nation being a melting pot, it never will be. No

The EU is not heading there, it's there already.

It's a new World order for them, but we have been there for 100's of years and I don't think they'll like it very much, at all.

Nope, not one little bit.

Your opening premise is not at all true. Spain, France, Italy and Germany are patchworks of distinct and often rival cultures and languages/dialects. The others likely as well (think Yorkshire, Sussex, Cornwall, … Scotland, Wales …) (Bavarians and Prussians have a lively contempt for each other.) but of these I know. Belgium and Ireland with their two languages; Switzerland with four. With few exceptions, European nations are more or less voluntary coalitions of several to many cultural entities.

 

[Mephisto666]

Your opening premise is not at all true. Spain, France, Italy and Germany are patchworks of distinct and often rival cultures and languages/dialects. The others likely as well (think Yorkshire, Sussex, Cornwall, … Scotland, Wales …) (Bavarians and Prussians have a lively contempt for each other.) but of these I know. Belgium and Ireland with their two languages; Switzerland with four. With few exceptions, European nations are more or less voluntary coalitions of several to many cultural entities.

You'll hear no argument from me on the points you made about the history of the countries in Europe.
I guess the point I was attempting to make is that today in Germany for example, all Germans, Barvarians included have an uneasy feeling about the influx of refugees into their country.
A unholy alliance between Great Britain and Ireland is that deep down inside they both think that Pakistan is sending too many of their sons and daughters over.
France and Italy are rueing the day they invaded North Africa.
It just reminds me of the Irish showing up in Boston and the "Natives" tried very hard to get rid of them, alas to no avail.
The fuckers never would leave, although a few ended up in NYC.
Pesky bastards we are.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

The problems of globalization and multiculturalism in the west as we have a dire need to import people from other countries and some of them have political baggage. A fascist regime always abuses the news media with lies and propaganda, we've seen it in America, and we see it in India, China and Russia, along with the suppression of minorities leading to eventual genocide as the rule of law is brushed aside.

Canada isn't India, you can't engage in acts of terrorism and murder here and get away with it, but you can lie and get away with it and have access to social media here that you censor or ban at home. Twitter is banned in Russia, but there are an awful lot of Russian bots and people on Twitter toeing the Russian line and spewing Russian propaganda which is being promoted above other posts by the algorithm. Foxnews regularly mirrors Russian propaganda and known lies, anything for a buck.

Ethnic and religious murders are way up in India these past few years and these guys are responsible for its rise IMO.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1706967153721872427

 

[Sativied]

Your opening premise is not at all true.

The situation repeats on a smaller scale as well doesn’t make it untrue. I pointed it out myself several times in regards to the misuse of ‘europeans’ and ‘europe’. The US (and americans) tend to compare the US to the EU or ‘Europe’ but that’s not how it works from this side, where each and every country compares itself to other countries incl the US as a whole. Aside from a select few politicians totally into the eu thing, hardly anyone in europe refers to themselves as european (unless of course the context demands it). There’s germans, french, greeks etc. and they’re all sort of standalone. You’re absolutely right about that patchwork, but that’s more or less the same thing on a smaller scale.

No matter how well you speak the language and adjust to the national or local culture, a German who moves to Italy will always be the German, a dutch person moving to Denmark will always remain the ‘Hollander’. So there’s a lot of truth in meph’s statement on it’s own if applied to individual nations or on a regional scale. Where he is wrong is lumping EU nations together. Where immigrants were historically or are now welcome differs a LOT across Europe, whether it’s west vs east, per nation, per region or even per city/town. Some have been muliculti since before the US existed.

And yes, of course there’s a huge overlap between climate change denial and far right in EU too. It’s depending from the perspective almost a 1-1 relationship, same parties, same voters. It’s just that some EU nations are so left (or US is so right…) that that doesn’t hold true depending on your perspective. Generally speaking, climate change denial on the left is almost an oxymoron, the sane right is sane enough not to deny it, which leaves the topic almost exclusively for far right and populist parties to exploit.

 

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And yes, of course there’s a huge overlap between climate change denial and far right in EU too. It’s depending from the perspective almost a 1-1 relationship, same parties, same voters. It’s just that some EU nations are so left (or US is so right…) that that doesn’t hold true depending on your perspective. Generally speaking, climate change denial on the left is almost an oxymoron, the sane right is sane enough not to deny it, which leaves the topic almost exclusively for far right and populist parties to exploit.

Extreme weather events tend to change minds and farmers depend on the weather more than most people in cities. Much organized far right support is rural based in Europe and in North America. Rural populations might also benefit the most by going green at least in North America where rural power rates tend to be high and there will be opportunities to make money from solar, wind and agriculture. Then there is that sense of independence that the rural like too.

 

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Extreme weather events tend to change minds and farmers depend on the weather more than most people in cities. Much organized far right support is rural based in Europe and in North America. Rural populations might also benefit the most by going green at least in North America where rural power rates tend to be high and there will be opportunities to make money from solar, wind and agriculture. Then there is that sense of independence that the rural like too.

You realize that many of the same rural voters will be told that extreme weather comes from a deep-state conspiracy to engineer the weather to panic voters into furthering the goal of yoking the world with socialism.

 

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You realize that many of the same rural voters will be told that extreme weather comes from a deep-state conspiracy to engineer the weather to panic voters into furthering the goal of yoking the world with socialism.

Yep, but reality will come knocking at or knocking down their door before most urban people. I've observed that extreme weather events seem to drive concerns about climate change, so does not being able to get insurance for your house.

 

[BudmanTX]

Gonna have to keep an eye on this one:



there are 2 more i'm watching too, one near Florida and one near the Yucatan area