Climate in the 21st Century

[cannabineer]

What I meant was that as we would have to refine the oil anyways...who would guard/discard/deposit all the leftover gasoline? Make coke from it?
That was the main wonder, maybe emojis would've helped

It becomes a matter of adjusting the refinery process. Refineries are wonderfully flexible things. Currently they are finely tuned to make as much fuel as possible from each barrel: gasoline, Diesel, aviation fuel.

It’s a matter of retuning to make other feedstocks. The fractions that currently yield gasoline etc. can be processed to yield foundation molecules for plastics, drug intermediates etc. I was an organic chemist, so I remember there are many processes to do these things.

In the extreme case you can coke it and get hydrogen and acetylene, which can be converted to many other precursor molecules.
Of course we will need to switch to electric furnaces from the petroleum-fired ones we have now

 

[Jylhavuori]

Feels like it's the FIAT currency system that's inhibiting any real process towards a healthy goal. Not the cause in any way but certainly a strong gateway for our detachment to the very essential things for all living on this planet... neo-liberalism someone would say, no comments on my part for that right here.
(I don't want to make this a psych thread)

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

The gulf stream passes just south of Nova Scotia, but you would never know it! There are palm trees growing in southern Ireland and Europe far to the north of has a milder climate because of the gulf stream. If it were to take a bit of a turn and hit Nova Scotia, we would suddenly have a subtropical climate and ecological disaster! Property prices would go through the roof because of the weather. Places like Maine and NY would be subtropical too.

New Study Definitively Confirms Gulf Stream Weakening - CleanTechnica

The Gulf Stream transport of water through the Florida Straits has slowed by 4% over the past four decades, with 99% certainty that this weakening is more than expected from random chance, according to a new study.

cleantechnica.com

 

[cannabineer]

Feels like it's the FIAT currency system that's inhibiting any real process towards a healthy goal. Not the cause in any way but certainly a strong gateway for our detachment to the very essential things for all living on this planet... neo-liberalism someone would say, no comments on my part for that right here.
(I don't want to make this a psych thread)

What is a viable alternative to fiat currency? (Please don’t say crypto)

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

This looks like it could be engineered into something significant for mass production of lithium and other salts, seems more ecofriendly than vast evaporation pools of brine. I would think something like this could be in continuous operation like a paper plant, if built big enough and made efficient enough.

Strings that draw-up brine could help supply the world with lithium

Concept takes lithium extraction into the third dimension away from cumbersome, slow pools of brine

www.chemistryworld.com

 

[CANON_Grow]

even if we stopped using it as fuel (which would end air transport and reduce shipping to stuff that will endure sixty days under sail) our economies depend on it far too much for plastics, medicine etc.

In a sense it would be robbing Peter to pay Paul. Those plastic outdoor chairs would need to be made of wood. And we’re still felling trees at unsustainable levels.

There are other sustainable materials that can be used, bamboo in particular. The planet certainly needs more tree's, but it is possible to responsibly harvest in a way that is sustainable, even beneficial. Using wood has an important role as we transition away from fossil fuels. Solar>trees>oil>coal. I just hope we aren't left with having to rely on lava straws and space kites for survival.

 

[cannabineer]

There are other sustainable materials that can be used, bamboo in particular. The planet certainly needs more tree's, but it is possible to responsibly harvest in a way that is sustainable, even beneficial. Using wood has an important role as we transition away from fossil fuels. Solar>trees>oil>coal. I just hope we aren't left with having to rely on lava straws and space kites for survival.

I had to look up lava straws. My first thought was “here’s a geological phenomenon I never heard of!”

If you’re going that way, go tactical.

CUSTOM TITANIUM VAMPIRE STRAW

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It’ll get you at the good stuff

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

There are other sustainable materials that can be used, bamboo in particular. The planet certainly needs more tree's, but it is possible to responsibly harvest in a way that is sustainable, even beneficial. Using wood has an important role as we transition away from fossil fuels. Solar>trees>oil>coal. I just hope we aren't left with having to rely on lava straws and space kites for survival.

Wood is considered carbon neutral, even burning it for heat, it is fossil carbon that is the issue. We will still use plastics of all kinds, but more biodegradable ones for consumers and we will still need petroleum for lubricants and chemical feedstocks, but not for energy generation, except in emergencies, to charge up batteries and make up for renewable and other shortfalls, which should become rarer as time goes on.

Fresh water is the answer and with that you can make a lot of green in places where it is brown, solve the world food crises too, then there is the ocean where carbon is combined with calcium by plankton and other sea organisms that photosynthesize too.

I really like this idea for making deserts near the sea bloom or make fresh water for cities. We have been building large floating concrete structures on the water for a long time and one of these towers can supply a lot of fresh water. Just drawing the air to shore under water will condense it, but a tower with wind turbines on top to power everything and that could swing into the prevailing wind could collect a lot of fresh water with minimal environmental impact, not much energy used, and no brine pumped back into the sea. I think we will see these things of one design or another, it is simply too good an idea to be overlooked, freshwater energy free, just build it and it should last a long time. These guys did their math and some homework, but further engineering studies should be required.

Videos like these are emailed to policy makers and politicians, so the ideas get exposure. It's more of a gimmick in the desert, but in the sea it's another matter.

Limitless Fresh Water Lies Right OVER The Ocean - Without Desalination!

553,152 views Mar 30, 2023
Ocean Vapor Towers:

Fresh water is the cornerstone of all life, and it always feels like we either have too much or too little. And while desalination has grown in popularity, it is very energy intensive to separate the salt from ocean water. But a novel idea is emerging that harnesses the water vapor right above our oceans and transports it back to land. It promises to be the lower cost lower energy alternative to desalination, but will it actually work? How much water can it realistically produce, and might this be a key solution to our water challenges in the future? Let's find out! Limitless Fresh Water Lies Right OVER The Ocean - Without Desalination!

 

[CANON_Grow]

I had to look up lava straws. My first thought was “here’s a geological phenomenon I never heard of!”

If you’re going that way, go tactical.

CUSTOM TITANIUM VAMPIRE STRAW

IN STOCK READY TO SHIP IMMEDIATELY The Custom Vampire Straw is unique in its design, fabrication and function. Machined one at the time in the USA out of grade 9 titanium, the Vampire straw is truly a custom made item. The Vampire straw’s dimensions make it the most comfortable straw to use...

szaboinc.com

It’ll get you at the good stuff

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I could have sworn there was mention of trying to harness the energy of the magma under Yellowstone and putting up a sun shade in space if we were getting too hot, must have imagined lava straw and space kite and that's what stuck.

 

[cannabineer]

I could have sworn there was mention of trying to harness the energy of the magma under Yellowstone and putting up a sun shade in space if we were getting too hot, must have imagined lava straw and space kite and that's what stuck.

The space kite thing I got. But a search for lava straw led to the eponymous utensil.

 

[CANON_Grow]

Wood is considered carbon neutral, even burning it for heat, it is fossil carbon that is the issue. We will still use plastics of all kinds, but more biodegradable ones for consumers and we will still need petroleum for lubricants and chemical feedstocks, but not for energy generation, except in emergencies, to charge up batteries and make up for renewable and other shortfalls, which should become rarer as time goes on.

Fresh water is the answer and with that you can make a lot of green in places where it is brown, solve the world food crises too, then there is the ocean where carbon is combined with calcium by plankton and other sea organisms that photosynthesize too.

I really like this idea for making deserts near the sea bloom or make fresh water for cities. We have been building large floating concrete structures on the water for a long time and one of these towers can supply a lot of fresh water. Just drawing the air to shore under water will condense it, but a tower with wind turbines on top to power everything and that could swing into the prevailing wind could collect a lot of fresh water with minimal environmental impact, not much energy used, and no brine pumped back into the sea. I think we will see these things of one design or another, it is simply too good an idea to be overlooked, freshwater energy free, just build it and it should last a long time. These guys did their math and some homework, but further engineering studies should be required.

Videos like these are emailed to policy makers and politicians, so the ideas get exposure. It's more of a gimmick in the desert, but in the sea it's another matter.

Limitless Fresh Water Lies Right OVER The Ocean - Without Desalination!

553,152 views Mar 30, 2023
Ocean Vapor Towers:

Fresh water is the cornerstone of all life, and it always feels like we either have too much or too little. And while desalination has grown in popularity, it is very energy intensive to separate the salt from ocean water. But a novel idea is emerging that harnesses the water vapor right above our oceans and transports it back to land. It promises to be the lower cost lower energy alternative to desalination, but will it actually work? How much water can it realistically produce, and might this be a key solution to our water challenges in the future? Let's find out! Limitless Fresh Water Lies Right OVER The Ocean - Without Desalination!

After seeing the biomass boiler at Viessmann Canada, and seeing that is all they are using to heat their 60,000 sq ft facility, thought for sure it is going to replace heating oil wherever it is used. There are some technical issues that make me hesitant to consider it actually carbon neutral, but certainly far less than any other fossil fuel. Government regulations and insurance providers need to figure out how to keep up with all the changes now. I know electrification is the future, it's going to be hard to get better than the heat pumps that are coming, but getting all electrical generation from fully clean sources is going to take time. Hydrogen is going to play a role, just not sure how big of a role yet.

It's great seeing trials like the beaver dams to reduce drought. Solutions like that is what gives me hope that this can be dealt with.

 

[Jylhavuori]

What is a viable alternative to fiat currency? (Please don’t say crypto)

Lol

At this point I'm really clueless of a solution. Trading dynamics is a bitch when put global.

Idk, Foodstamps? (Brrrrrrrrrrr)

 

[cannabineer]

Lol

At this point I'm really clueless of a solution. Trading dynamics is a bitch when put global.

Idk, Foodstamps?

If I understand, food stamps stands in for social democracy in general. I believe we could use a bit more of that. Free healthcare and education would be a solid start.

Of course, that requires mustering enough voting power to tax the rich. For now they’re succeeding at flouting the law. It is my fondest hope that the law wins a few rounds against the richest.

 

[Jylhavuori]

If I understand, food stamps stands in for social democracy in general. I believe we could use a bit more of that. Free healthcare and education would be a solid start.

Of course, that requires mustering enough voting power to tax the rich. For now they’re succeeding at flouting the law. It is my fondest hope that the law wins a few rounds against the richest.

In my country we have those (education, public healthcare), and their returns are dimishing by the day. And we have one of Europe's lowest income-to-wellfare- rate (We're poor). Also nothing grows here but potato. Hard to see anything good but a remote location and fresh water for now.

 

[cannabineer]

In my country we have those (education, public healthcare), and their returns are dimishing by the day. And we have one of Europe's lowest income-to-wellfare- rate (We're poor). Also nothing grows here but potato. Hard to see anything good but a remote location and fresh water for now.

Your username strikes me as Finnish. Do I guess right? Does Finland have potato country?

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Socialism! Wait until the republicans get a hold of this issue! You wouldn't wanna make baby Jesus cry! These companies need to contact the local republican grifters, hire a propaganda firm and spread some money around to convince the suckers that "they are taking over, and only I can save you"! I can see trying to talk a magat into this after brain washing. These people fuck themselves regularly by not knowing the difference between a consumer owned public utility and socialism. Their utility is owned by the Saudis through a couple of shell companies, and they wonder why their rates go up and they are getting fucked with power outages due to lack of maintenance. I mean the city of Calgary is doing very well sucking money out of Maine and they don't need to worry about the lights going out there either, some donations to the local republicans make sure of that.

A great argument for the people who own your power utility should live in the state where it is, not their companies, but them, in person. Investor utilities are a disaster, most publicly owned utilities worked just fine before they were sold off for ideological reasons. If they keep this shit up though it will only motivate their consumers towards solar batteries and energy independence. There is no need for many to get in the same corporate trap when they are energy independent, both for their homes and transportation. Oil companies are not the only ones who will feel the pain of the green energy revolution, a lot of power utilities will too.

Maybe the power rates are a measure of how brainwashed the population is and how corrupt the government. Can you see an idea like this flying in Texas? Think you would get official government and republican opposition, even making such a thing illegal? COMMUNISM! Think republicans and other assorted rightwing media psychos couldn't make a fortune from utilities for opposing this idea? Think the people behind a consumer owned utility wouldn't get death threats, as the paid for rightwing media gets going on the idea? Foreign investors can use death threats to keep Americans in line too, they just need to pay the like of Alex Jones and others who will get the stochastic terrorism going among the lunatics and warriors. Trump showed the way and there are a ton of psychos and nazis running rightwing media sites and republican politicians are always for sale too.

Maine's Radical Solution to the Energy Crisis

163,080 views Sep 5, 2023
Maine residents will vote this November on whether to create the first statewide consumer-owned utility in the country.

They're facing skyrocketing electricity bills and frequent power outages, while the corporate utilities (CMP and Versant) that dominate the state brought in $187 million in profit last year. Both the companies are owned by foreign entities.

Residents are organizing to take power back into their own hands — literally. A ballot measure on the November ballot could create the consumer-owned utility non-profit Pine Tree Power, and put it under community control.

We talked with residents about what this would mean for them.

 

[Jylhavuori]

Your username strikes me as Finnish. Do I guess right? Does Finland have potato country?

It's in fact a Finnish surname... I got the nick from when I was 15yo skating a mini ramp and my friend was cheering me by a contemporary rapper's song which mentioned Roihuvuori. He said Jylhävuori (referring to my name).....somehow I began to use it later years... This song btw, golden era of hip-hop maybe..native language.

lyrics eng translation


Roihuvuori, bombs are dropping
What what what what what, what the fuck
'82, hiphop heads nod, to the right wing
Burning place attacks

Where whites and blacks grow up together
Where posse are hustling drugs on the street to survive
FLA is the place, gaps in education
More pubs than grocery stores in Roihikka

Still Pia-Noora Kauppi1 farting at Brusself
would like to place vodka bottles next to milk cartons
You call my friends, social welfare bums
What the fuck is the situation? Make life a slum

Fucking chill, this posse hits harder than swat team
Everything that we destroyed as kids, we compensated for
Needless to spread that same (ol') bad reputation here
Tag on your toe, make your bodies cold 2

Alcoholists, drug addicts, govern Roihikka
Not stressing about philosophical thoughts, booze is everywhere
Welcome you racist, you against me,
Tie the laces of your combat boots, where is my flip knife?

Fuck that America's East-West bullshit
Roihikka the hottest place, where I am raising my kid
Raimo Ilaskivi3, East or Finland's Monaco
Little change from our pockets, do not even fit your wallet

Okay, the most alcoholists, the most criminals
The most poor people, the most kids without dads
But loyal to each other, with workday busy
Only couple of pints, and we are happy here

[2x]
Roihuvuori, bombs are dropping
What what what what what, what the fuck
'82, hiphop heads nod, to the right wing
Burning place attacks

Rise your fits, if you wanna piece of Roihikka
Gather the whole government, you can smell that from kilometres away
To think how you can complicate things even more
Politicians, we can make you leave your posts earlier

Representing white stash, Roihis 4 white trash
Booze from Alko 5, for all the underground rappers
If you are Arab, Somali, Vietnamese or a negro
All together, posse of East Helsinki tagging 6 metro (wagons)

Tagging at the cost of every snob, panic emerging
Dude is just all talk and no action, fucking weak
Hottest (from) the street, dropping critique to the political right
Money from taxes to politicians, fucking freaky

Banzaa, dirt-poor 7 people
Demonstrate their customs, smoking Bob Marley ganja
Drinking all their booze, salary, wealth
Tapsa Kansa 8, Aza 9 is not going to be stopped by police's trap

[2x]
Roihuvuori, bombs are dropping
What what what what what, what the fuck
'82, hiphop heads nod, to the right wing
Burning place attacks

• 1. ex-Finnish EU politician
• 2. To 'make someone cold' is a slang term to kill someone basically, not sure what would be the best English synonym for the slang
• 3. ex-Finnish politician
• 4. other slang for Roihuvuori
• 5. Finnish state monopoly for liquor
• 6. literally spraying (graffiti)
• 7. persaukinen, literally perse = ass, aukinen = "opened"
• 8. Tapani Kansa, Finnish easy listening singer who liked to drive under the influence of alcohol
• 9. other alias of Avain, Asa

https://lyricstranslate.com/en/roihuvuori-roihuvuori.html

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Electrification of farms should start with general purpose vehicles like tractors and half tons, even larger farm trucks. However, it will have to be coupled with generating and storing their own power onsite or with a rural cooperative utility. The idea is they would cut their fuel costs with these vehicles and some dairy farms and chicken ranches just use light tractors as front-end loaders, so do many hobby farmers and rural property owners. Many farmers just own a tractor and equipment to drag behind it, including trailers and plows. Batteries are improving and thanks to the conversion to EVs, they should be cheap and plentiful too. New types like sodium batteries should be cheap, work well in low temps and are more tailored to home storage with potentially very long lifetimes.

A modern farm barn can provide a lot of area for solar and with energy storage even a 100kW wind turbine would do a lot, Rural power rates are already higher than urban ones in many places and if farmers go electric, they will want to make their own and store enough for their own use. Having no fuel cost would be a boon for any farmer, even reducing it would have an impact. Nobody is gonna be replacing perfectly fine combines soon, but newer ones will have the option of electric power. Solar panels on a farm can be angled to get the maximum output during spring and fall, right when the most power is needed, during planting in the spring and harvesting in the fall. We just need better batteries for it all to make economic sense for a farmer, solar is cheap now and getting cheaper, and an EV tractor is cheaper to build and should have lower maintenance costs than a diesel one.

Another thing about electric propulsion is that like electric aviation, a robot can do it much easier, so robo-tractor plows the field while the farmer does other things. Energy independence with a Godamned robot doing the hard work should induce a lot of farmers!

This Electric Tractor Might Change the Future of Farming and Food!

286,808 views Jun 11, 2022
The Monarch self-driving Electric Tractor will help change how our food is produced with connected data to assist farmers with maintaining crops.
For more on the future of farming check out our story on robots doing the farming for you:

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Why owning a smaller compact or subcompact EV might make more sense for most people, especially one that can be topped up to the daily commute range overnight at home. There are level 2 chargers now and most will eventually, that can sense the house power load and adjust the charging rate of the EV so they can be used with a standard 100-amp electrical entrance.

Compact EVs should soon have efficiencies of up to 10 miles per kWh, and most people commute less than 30 miles a day according to the article. Even a level 1 120-volt charger can charge at 1 kWh rate and can give you 10 kWh of overnight charging and if your compact EV only got 5 miles per kWh, it would still go 50 miles on an overnight charge. Halve the mass of the battery while maintaining the same power levels and volume with new or improved technology and your compact EV will make 10 miles per kWh and have plenty of range too, even in the cold.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/29/one-of-the-biggest-ev-decisions-youll-make-isnt-which-car-to-buy.html

KEY POINTS

• About 80% of all EV charging takes place at home, according to the Department of Energy.
• Sixty percent of Level 1 users say they are likely to upgrade their home charging station to either a Level 2 permanently mounted charger or a Level 2 portable unit, according to J.D. Power.
• But upgrading isn’t always the right financial decision for an electric vehicle owner.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

This Next Billion-Dollar Startup Was Built To Save America’s Farms With Tractorbots

184,938 views Sep 6, 2023
Monarch CEO Praveen Penmetsa expects sales to triple or more this year as it gets its autonomous electric tractors in the hands of farmers, earning the Livermore, California-based company a coveted spot on our annual list of the Next Billion-Dollar Startups.

But launching an agricultural equipment company is tough. It is capital-intensive, and cash-strapped farmers tend to be a conservative lot resistant to change. But Livermore-based Monarch, which has raised $116 million in equity from investors and reached a valuation of $271 million at its most recent equity funding in November 2021, seems to have hit a tipping point. Last year, it booked $22 million in revenue, up from $5 million in 2021. This year Penmetsa expects revenue to increase three- to fivefold. That would bring it above $66 million, and possibly over $100 million, as the number of its tractors in the field goes from more than 100 to 1,000. As it expands, Penmetsa expects that more of its revenue will come from software subscriptions (up to $8,376 per tractor per year) that give farmers real-time alerts about sick plants and safety risks, plus gathering and crunching a ton of data to improve crop yields.