BudmanTX
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or been given to them by Iran.....i do know they do build them themselves....for me it's just the amount of them...think they're up to 3 or 4000 right now....
Hamas offensive against Israel
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Fogdog
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I'm not suggesting that Israel should be punished, just saying human rights abuses are intolerable regardless the country that commits them including the US. I don't support punishing Israel, I support the US withdrawing support for Israel as long as it commits widespread violations of international laws regarding human rights. Bombing Gaza and killing civilians is not an appropriate response to Hamas's terrorist acts. The End.No, not just like. If they would have kept control over Gaza the situation would be different. Hamas is poison, especially for youngsters. Every casualty right now is on them.
As I mentioned in a previous thread, I do believe that is an entirely different issue, and when Trump was elected, or is elected again, I will not support anyone suggesting to punish the US and all Americans for the bad choices of part of their electorate. When Mexicans come to Texas to drag away women and children I'll not go "but the US...". That's not how you treat allies and friends, that's not how you maintain influence or achieve peace. Netanyahu should quit, of course. But it's not like Hamas wouldn't want to destroy Israel if Netanyahu wouldn't have won. I've pointed out the massive amount of rockets Israel gets to endure before, the only reason there are not many more civilian casualties is because of their advanced defense systems.
You hear Hitler in his words...Yes, sucks to be a Palestinian right now, Netanyahu will not hold back. It's concerning, just not my first and primary concern.
Fascism is particularly odious. For them, cruelty is the point. Netanyahu is on the path of genocide and must be stopped. Maybe ending their cozy relationship with the US will be enough. If not, it would be a start.
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BudmanTX
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damn...now that is shocking....make we wonder if Mossad and or Shen Bit would have noticed something, heck even Egypt intelligence too...
think i saw a report the Egypt tried to warn Israel at one point
Kerowacked
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'We are people that will not surrender, we win or we die.'' Omar al-Mukhtar
DIY-HP-LED
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Russian disinformation on twitter is full of pictures of arms from Ukraine, but they were given to Hamas by Russia and Iran. I don't think they fooled the Mossad or western intelligence agencies it is enough to fool and confuse the magats when filtered through and spun by their information bubble.
If true Israel will know and Russia will pay, they will just use the Ukrainians to inflict the pain on them with arms supplies. For Iran it will be a different matter and involve direct attacks..
If true Israel will know and Russia will pay, they will just use the Ukrainians to inflict the pain on them with arms supplies. For Iran it will be a different matter and involve direct attacks..
Week4@inCharge
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Exactly... where the fuk did those come from? Hamas, Gaza Strip, Palestines, all pawns to who? What's really going on?
PopAndSonGrows
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It seems more and more like Hamas was really an "inevitability" based in how Israel has kept Gaza at arms' length, or worse neglected entirely, for so long.
Let your loval Govt cut your town off from aid, clean water, police etc etc etc, and see how you'd respond after 30-something years or longer.
Let your loval Govt cut your town off from aid, clean water, police etc etc etc, and see how you'd respond after 30-something years or longer.
BudmanTX
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Hamas has been known for making they're own rockets, and it is likely some of the other systems they have aquired are Iranian made systems as well. The palestines are the ones in the middle of all this. Hamas's master's are Iran/Russia they wanted this war to take eyes away from Ukraine. Russia hope that the international community will side will side with Israel and give them money and ammunition instead of giving it to Ukraine.....see what they are doing.....pitching one side against the other.....
Week4@inCharge
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Is the attack from Lebanon a coincidence? I'm wondering if they botched an all out offensive from the North and South of Israel.
DIY-HP-LED
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All that shit is coming from somewhere and it looks like Russia and Iran to me, all arms going to Ukraine are watched like a hawk and accounted for thanks to republican pressure. The Russians are passing on captured Ukrainian arms to Iran or Wagner and then to Hamas and other allies in the region. They don't pull this capability out of their own asses they get support and funding I'm sure Mossad and the CIA know all about it. This is just a PR move to shift blame to Ukraine and foster the idea of Ukrainian corruption, things for Elon, Trump and MTG to retweet for the idiots of America.
If Russia is involved Israel will know of it and I can see Ukraine benefiting from it in the end with strikes on Iranian drone and missile production, transport and supplies of Israeli advanced weapons systems going to Ukraine. We could even see a drone war with Israel turning the lights off in Iran with cheap drones targeting power transformers. These guys could produce thousands of very smart electronically hardened carboard drones that could go the distance in a month and if they didn't have such a response already planned, they would have one ready for execution in short order. They would strike all at once, before the Iranians could react with defensive measures, the lights would be out in the entire country inside a week, ditto for communications and cell towers. If they wanna live like the prophet, they might soon have the chance, and Iran won't be producing much of anything, including arms.
BudmanTX
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Hezbollah is surprising staying out of it, from reports i've seen the UAE has told Assad to stay out of it. Now if they do, they do, if they don't, they don't.....they're masters are Syria/Iran/Russia...but after Syria's civil war i don't know if they can do anything....they got stuff to watch at home....that civil war is on going
BudmanTX
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to the bold, they are.........
DIY-HP-LED
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More on possible Israeli drone strikes to shut the lights off in Iran, several old freighters can be purchased and equipped to launch hundreds of drones an hour off the Iranian coast at several points a hundred miles offshore and could defend themselves with antiship missiles, RPGs and even Javelins aside from their escort firing star streaks to keep planes away. They would in effect be a carrier strike force of old ships ready for the scrapyard filled with drones and some catapult launchers, when the drones are gone the crew boards the escort and scuttles the junk freighter.
Week4@inCharge
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Meanwhile Hamas still shooting rockets at Israel...
BudmanTX
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possible.....there has been chatter Hamas got taught how to use drones....and since my beard in tiggling...i have they are gonna use them....similar to whats happening in Ukraine......so beware
DIY-HP-LED
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Bebe would be wise to confine his retribution to Hamas and their backers, move in after inviting those inside to come out under UN protection, those who stay will be buried under the ruble as every tunnel is located and Gaza gradually leveled while being cleared by Israeli troops. It is just the hostages keeping Bebe from leveling the place and driving the inhabitants into the sea, those Naval vessels might need small boats to rescue people from the water. Shutting the lights off in Iran for years might be better retribution that will contribute more to Israeli security, both Russia and Ukraine showed the way to deal with Iran IMO, shut the lights off, power transformers are hard to replace and nobody keeps a big supply of them, the bigger the transformer the harder it is to replace and the longer it takes. Israel can make many small cheap very smart drones designed for the job and launch them from ships off the Iranian coast in a surprise attack with little risk to its own people. Cruise missiles can degrade Iranian costal and air defenses before and during the attack. I don't think they will send fighter bombers into Iran, maybe close to launch cruise missiles and glide bombs.
Mephisto666
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You forgot Hezbollah, who hate Israel as much as anyone and if they entered into the fray, get your popcorn out because it would be mesmerizing.
Mephisto666
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Cool
those vids from Ukraine dropping bombs down tanks hatches are really neat.
Amazing accuracy.