BudmanTX
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Hezbollah won't get involved, or at least i hope not. They're masters won't let them
Hamas offensive against Israel
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BudmanTX
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Looks like the master is gonna throw his people to the dogs.....hmmm
or he's just saying it....js
or he's just saying it....js
k0rps
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Phosphorus bomb
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"Experts have called out Israel after a video purportedly showed the alleged use of white phosphorus bombs in densely populated areas.
The matter is contested, but WION here decodes everything you need to know about the white phosphorus bombs.
What are white phosphorus bombs?
White phosphorus is a waxy crystalline solid, which turns dark on exposure to light. This toxic substance comes in white to yellow transparent. White phosphorus has a match-like or garlic-like, acrid odour, however, it is not feasible to depend on odour for its detection.
It is used by the military in the form of various types of ammunition as an incendiary agent because it spontaneously catches fire in the air when it comes into contact with oxygen.
The substance is also used by the militaries across the world as a smoke agent because it produces clouds of irritating white smoke.
The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, an intergovernmental implementing body for the Chemical Weapons Convention, has not listed White Phosphorous in any of the three Schedules of Chemical Weapons.
White phosphorus can ignite fast-burning and fast-spreading fires on the ground, and several reports have claimed it is extremely difficult to extinguish once ignited."
"White phosphorus does not occur naturally as it is manufactured using phosphate rocks. As per international laws, the use of white phosphorus shells is prohibited in heavily populated civilian areas. However, the laws allow its usage in open spaces to be used as cover for troops.
White phosphorus weapons are not banned, but their use in civilian areas is considered a war crime.
Human Rights Watch has said that there have been documented civilian deaths from the use of white phosphorus in war zones in countries and areas such as Syria, Afghanistan, and Gaza."
"Experts have called out Israel after a video purportedly showed the alleged use of white phosphorus bombs in densely populated areas.
The matter is contested, but WION here decodes everything you need to know about the white phosphorus bombs.
What are white phosphorus bombs?
White phosphorus is a waxy crystalline solid, which turns dark on exposure to light. This toxic substance comes in white to yellow transparent. White phosphorus has a match-like or garlic-like, acrid odour, however, it is not feasible to depend on odour for its detection.
It is used by the military in the form of various types of ammunition as an incendiary agent because it spontaneously catches fire in the air when it comes into contact with oxygen.
The substance is also used by the militaries across the world as a smoke agent because it produces clouds of irritating white smoke.
The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, an intergovernmental implementing body for the Chemical Weapons Convention, has not listed White Phosphorous in any of the three Schedules of Chemical Weapons.
White phosphorus can ignite fast-burning and fast-spreading fires on the ground, and several reports have claimed it is extremely difficult to extinguish once ignited."
"White phosphorus does not occur naturally as it is manufactured using phosphate rocks. As per international laws, the use of white phosphorus shells is prohibited in heavily populated civilian areas. However, the laws allow its usage in open spaces to be used as cover for troops.
White phosphorus weapons are not banned, but their use in civilian areas is considered a war crime.
Human Rights Watch has said that there have been documented civilian deaths from the use of white phosphorus in war zones in countries and areas such as Syria, Afghanistan, and Gaza."
Explained I What are white phosphorus bombs that Israel reportedly used in Gaza? Is it illegal?
Israel has launched incessant air strikes at Hamas targets in Gaza after members of the Palestinian militant group stormed Israeli towns in the first week of October in a surprise and unprecedented assault. The attack by Hamas on Saturday (Oct 7) was launched from the Gaza enclave, killing...
www.wionews.com
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BudmanTX
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the top vid is, the second vid isn'tPhosphorus bomb
Smoke
"Experts have called out Israel after a video purportedly showed the alleged use of white phosphorus bombs in densely populated areas.
The matter is contested, but WION here decodes everything you need to know about the white phosphorus bombs.
What are white phosphorus bombs?
White phosphorus is a waxy crystalline solid, which turns dark on exposure to light. This toxic substance comes in white to yellow transparent. White phosphorus has a match-like or garlic-like, acrid odour, however, it is not feasible to depend on odour for its detection.
It is used by the military in the form of various types of ammunition as an incendiary agent because it spontaneously catches fire in the air when it comes into contact with oxygen.
The substance is also used by the militaries across the world as a smoke agent because it produces clouds of irritating white smoke.
The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, an intergovernmental implementing body for the Chemical Weapons Convention, has not listed White Phosphorous in any of the three Schedules of Chemical Weapons.
White phosphorus can ignite fast-burning and fast-spreading fires on the ground, and several reports have claimed it is extremely difficult to extinguish once ignited."
"White phosphorus does not occur naturally as it is manufactured using phosphate rocks. As per international laws, the use of white phosphorus shells is prohibited in heavily populated civilian areas. However, the laws allow its usage in open spaces to be used as cover for troops.
White phosphorus weapons are not banned, but their use in civilian areas is considered a war crime.
Human Rights Watch has said that there have been documented civilian deaths from the use of white phosphorus in war zones in countries and areas such as Syria, Afghanistan, and Gaza."
Explained I What are white phosphorus bombs that Israel reportedly used in Gaza? Is it illegal?
Israel has launched incessant air strikes at Hamas targets in Gaza after members of the Palestinian militant group stormed Israeli towns in the first week of October in a surprise and unprecedented assault. The attack by Hamas on Saturday (Oct 7) was launched from the Gaza enclave, killing...www.wionews.com
printer
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Is that a residential area? Hard to tell.
BudmanTX
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the second one is, the first one isn't that should be the Golan if i'm right
CANON_Grow
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Bullshit. Nothing that Printer linked to or posted could be thought of as Hamas propaganda. Just because you don't like the light being shone on human rights abuses doesn't change the fact it's happening. Hamas is a terrorist organization, but not the only ones committing terror on innocent people. Anyone that doesn't blindly support Israel is going to fuel antisemitism and just parroting Hamas' talking points? Better tell the U.N. and Amnesty International.
Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians: a cruel system of domination and a crime against humanity
Israeli authorities must be held accountable for committing the crime of apartheid against Palestinians, Amnesty International said today in a damning new report. The investigation details how Israel enforces a system of oppression and domination against the Palestinian people wherever it has...
www.amnesty.org
I didn't see anyone else trying to dog whistle about Muslims and Palestinians, the only reason why I pointed out it's not just Muslims, and that even Christians are facing contempt. I am not ignoring what the Jewish population are facing, threats and violence against them are horribly wrong. I don't give a shit which book anyone follows ("you follow" wasn't directed at anyone specific), everyone should have the right to PEACEFULLY follow whatever religion they want. When someone is holding up their book to justify abuse on another human being is when it becomes an issue. It doesn't matter which religion is being followed when something abhorrent is happening, wrong is wrong.
Now is exactly the right time to discuss all the issues and loss of innocent lives, while the entire world is paying attention; just maybe a few less innocent lives are lost with more scrutiny.
The world would be far more peaceful without any and all of those books, and most certainly without those that practice and preach religious fanaticism.
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k0rps
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Ultra-orthodox Jews spit towards Christian pilgrims leaving Church of the Flagellation
Some ultra-Orthodox Jews were caught on camera spitting towards Christian pilgrims leaving the Church of the Flagellation in the Old City of Jerusalem last M...
printer
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Sorry, just viewed the first one as you said the second was not.
DIY-HP-LED
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By now Israel has every square inch of Gaza under continuous drone observation from dozens of drones, perhaps hundreds. Every launch will be met with a rocket or GPS guided bomb, before they get around to leveling the place.
DIY-HP-LED
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The more important religion is to people the more the tendency to be bigoted and believe you are God's "chosen people" and the rest are damned to Hell anyway. We used to have a lot of religious bigotry between protestants and Catholics and antisemitism was ramped among Catholics especially, guess the romans executing Christ was too much for the Roman Catholic church, so blame the Jews. Less than 100 years ago my hometown was still divided between the protestant and Catholic ends with Catholics having their own school system. As religion has faded in importance, so too has religious bigotry.Bullshit. Nothing that Printer linked to or posted could be thought of as Hamas propaganda. Just because you don't like the light being shone on human rights abuses doesn't change the fact it's happening. Hamas is a terrorist organization, but not the only ones committing terror on innocent people. Anyone that doesn't blindly support Israel is going to fuel antisemitism and just parroting Hamas' talking points? Better tell the U.N. and Amnesty International.
Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians: a cruel system of domination and a crime against humanity
Israeli authorities must be held accountable for committing the crime of apartheid against Palestinians, Amnesty International said today in a damning new report. The investigation details how Israel enforces a system of oppression and domination against the Palestinian people wherever it has...
I didn't see anyone else trying to dog whistle about Muslims and Palestinians, the only reason why I pointed out it's not just Muslims, and that even Christians are facing contempt. I am not ignoring what the Jewish population are facing, threats and violence against them are horribly wrong. I don't give a shit which book you follow, everyone should have the right to PEACEFULLY follow whatever religion they want. When someone is holding up their book to justify abuse on another human being is when it becomes an issue. I doesn't matter which religion is being followed when something abhorrent is happening, wrong is wrong.
Now is exactly the right time to discuss all the issues and loss of innocent lives, while the entire world is paying attention; just maybe a few less innocent lives are lost with more scrutiny.
The world would be far more peaceful without any and all of those books, and most certainly without those that practice and preach religious fanaticism.
The rise of the religious right in Israel is driving a lot of the division and trouble with an outright conspiracy to take over the west bank along with plenty of government help and arms. They are heavily armed, and the Palestinians are not, and they covet thy neighbor's land in defiance of the commandment that supposedly drives their behavior and gives them their values. What about thou shalt not steal too, as well as coveting their neighbor's land and oppressing their ass. Sounds like pseudo-Jews, like Pseudo Christians and what kind of gun would Jesus own, do unto others before they do it to you sort of stuff, pop philosophy. All in the name of a religion that forbids such things to Christians and Jews, but I suppose people can rationalize anything or any feeling.
printer
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OK, let us put this to rest. I never said that Hamas was fighting a gorilla war, I said that we would not throw stones at the Ukrainians if Russia actually captured Kiev in three days and mopped up in a week. We all expected Russia to set up a puppet government and partisan activities would nip at their heels making their occupation untenable. Sorry, thought we have all watched that war from the beginning and my post would have been understood. One of the problems when not spelling everything out.
On the Palestinians. They have fought with Israel a number of times, throwing stones or other resistance type of activities which could be seen as gorilla warfare. Strike and melt away before they get nabbed. Mind you, lot of the under 18 population did not exactly melt away so maybe it was not a gorilla war per se but an uprising?
My post with the link to the number of Palestinians being held. One of the main reasons Hamas said they attacked Israel was that Israel raid the Al-Aqsa Mosque and carted a lot of worshippers off to jail.
Palestinians arrested and injured in Israeli raid on al-Aqsa mosque
Palestinians arrested and injured in Israeli raid on al-Aqsa mosque
Police raid triggers West Bank clashes, cross-border strikes in Gaza Strip and fears of escalation
www.theguardian.com
DIY-HP-LED
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Like I said before, there is too much ambiguity to root for either side, this is not a black and white situation like in Ukraine, the only ones I'll be rooting for are the innocent on both sides. The slaughter of innocents is disgusting in all cases, by Hamas or by Jewish settlers as is the injustice based on ethnicity and religion. What will Bebe do to Gaza and the people living there, will it be genocide in the name of retribution? What he does to Iran short of nukes is of little concern to me as long as it helps Ukraine and I think it will in the end, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.OK, let us put this to rest. I never said that Hamas was fighting a gorilla war, I said that we would not throw stones at the Ukrainians if Russia actually captured Kiev in three days and mopped up in a week. We all expected Russia to set up a puppet government and partisan activities would nip at their heels making their occupation untenable. Sorry, thought we have all watched that war from the beginning and my post would have been understood. One of the problems when not spelling everything out.
On the Palestinians. They have fought with Israel a number of times, throwing stones or other resistance type of activities which could be seen as gorilla warfare. Strike and melt away before they get nabbed. Mind you, lot of the under 18 population did not exactly melt away so maybe it was not a gorilla war per se but an uprising?
My post with the link to the number of Palestinians being held. One of the main reasons Hamas said they attacked Israel was that Israel raid the Al-Aqsa Mosque and carted a lot of worshippers off to jail.
Palestinians arrested and injured in Israeli raid on al-Aqsa mosque
Palestinians arrested and injured in Israeli raid on al-Aqsa mosque
Police raid triggers West Bank clashes, cross-border strikes in Gaza Strip and fears of escalation
printer
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If Hamas was smart they would have only attacked military targets. Other than their normal backers they gained no countries to their side.
DIY-HP-LED
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They gained a can of whoop ass and Israel will hunt them down, even in Canada! I just hope they go easy on the civilians the whole world is watching and they should have absorbed lessons from Ukraine and Russia. What interests me the most is what impact it will have on the war in Ukraine, with Russia and Iran being allies. Both Israel and Ukraine have Iran as an active enemy and perhaps the Russians, we will see. I expect Israel to strike Iran, how is yet to be determined, but shutting off the lights in Iran with a fleet of cheap suicide drones would sure stop production of anything for a long time to come, including arms, if they wanna live like the prophet did 1300 years ago they might have the chance.
Week4@inCharge
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I would be surprised if they attacked Iran. Very surprised. The usual playlist is we (we as in US of Fuckn A) let Israel ground n pound until "we" feel enough is enough then hand Israel a couple billion for nice job done and paint it as a cease fire incentive.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Perhaps civilian terror was the intent, so as to scuttle the emerging accord. In that (successful accord) scenario, Iran would be the big loser.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
and the figurative wildfire jumps a ridge, smh
DIY-HP-LED
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Hamas terrorism echoes barbaric playbook from Putin to ISIS, warns historian
70,025 views Oct 10, 2023 #msnbc #hamas #israel
“Hamas terrorists paid no attention to any modern laws of war, or any norms of any kind” in their attacks on Israel, says historian Anne Applebaum, a barbarism that reflects a wider attack on the institutions built to defend human rights after World War II. The Pulitzer winner discusses her essay and the war with MSNBC’s Ari Melber.