I'm sure the scientists involved in this experiment and pilot program know all about the latest developments in the industry, including the continuous fermentation process I posted about, in fact they might even be counting on it or developing technologies like it to make their vision work.
As I mentioned, the whole point of the respectFarms project is that it's a feasibility test. To create a blueprint for farmers, IF viable as a business model, so they know the risks beforehand, to avoid any false expectations and surprises.
That's one way of putting it, and by all means, you do you man, but in this case that involves making assumptions about how they view and consider the obvious challenges such as production capacity, scalability and contamination risks. Which is exactly what they are not doing. They're actually finding out. They're into verifiable facts. To make any sensible decisions, conclusions, predictions even, they should be based on data that has the 5 essential traits: accuracy, completeness, reliability, relevance, and timeliness. The second is never 100% met, especially not when considering the rate at which technology advances, hence the push back on absolutes.
Right, and many more they don't post youtube vids about and what they design themselves. And yes, they might. But our data on that is not complete...
nice right up. Can't believe they're kicking out the HEMI, strong motors. I have one it's a 2010 1500 w/ Hemi 4.7. In all honesty i think they should keep the HEMI and add a generator to it, but that's just me. It doesn't mention any type of towing capacity, and that's the major downfall for EV's and Hybrids imo. Battery life gets almost cut in half. Now if manufactures can get that battery life and engine life to be able to tow lets say 3k at a distance of 500 miles then they are on to something.Stellantis making the Ram 1500 Ramcharger an EV with on-board gasoline generator is an intelligent way to get more people into EV's. 145 miles powered on batteries alone, and 690 miles with full battery and full tank of gas. The generator is still going to require maintenance like any other engine, but many drivers will be able to go a long time without using the generator to charge the battery.
I wouldn't be surprised to see many more manufacturers use the same concept. That generator should be pretty efficient as it won't need to adjust for load.
Stellantis' new Ram pickup is an EV — with a gas-powered generator in case the battery runs out
The new Ram pickup can operate as an EV until the battery dies and an onboard generator — powered by a 3.6-liter V6 engine — kicks on to power the vehicle.www.cnbc.com
On a gold mine. That's a pretty big ask for now. How long does it take you to go 500miles? Is there not plenty of time for stops and topping up along the way? The BMW iX almost meets your towing needs. Would have to charge every 100miles or so though... but that will only get better.
I'm looking for technical developments that can drive the food biotechnological revolution forward, in short, I wanna see how close we will come to the RethinkX predictions. As for me, I see scaling fermentation and cultured meats as major bottlenecks, as it is currently done. Some of these people are promoting businesses, niches in the emerging industry, and the fellow redesigning bioreactors could be onto something. It can reduce capital and operating costs and looks like, initially be scaled for pilot projects, something the size a farm could handle and be highly automated. The problem with all things like cultured meats whether in factories or on the farm is the batch process used and continuous production doesn't mean you need three stainless steel tanks and setup new batches while sterilizing everything between batches. If anything can make this farm production idea work, it is a new highly automated continuous production bioreactor scaled to the appropriate size and running on renewables.
From where i live to El Paso it's just over 500miles, if driving in a gas vehicle it would take you just under 5hrs to get there. From where i live to Ft Worth/Dallas area it's just over 450 miles. Now if an Hybrid/EV truck can tow 3k of material to either one of those cities on one charge, then manufactures have got something...and from where i live to both of those cities it an up hill as well. Heck from where i live to Houston is still 3hr drive for me.
The CO2 emission and energy costs are well researched, it's obviously a given it needs to run on renewables. Did you notice the 100 or so solar panels on the roof of that farm in the video you posted? Anything that can run on renewables must and will, no different here. Highly automated agriculture is what they do here. Nobody wants to get their hands dirty anymore, work smart not hard.
Just looking at it from the environmental perspective and likely timeframes for development. Experts have identified the issues and bottle necks in scaling production. The rules that hold true about other industrial processes are the same here and continuous fermentation is a technical challenge, at least for the way these people are doing it with yeasts, fungi and mammalian cell cultures. I'm looking at the RethinkX forecast as sort of a benchmark for the industry and feel that the experts have identified the bottlenecks of using this methodology and the bioreactor needs a rethink and redesign. If they can pull it off it might revolutionize the industry and put the RethinkX forecast more on track, it is a foundational technology. I don't know much about this industry and I'm learning, it was the implications for the environment, the economy and agriculture that caught my eye. This thread is more about general knowledge and possible solutions to climate change using technology and about the public making informed policy choices.
Totally appreciate the fact I'm in a very different situation with the highest density of (fast) charging stations, takes me 2 hours to cross the entire country. But you being able to drive 500miles in under 5 hrs changes a lot. That's like 160km per hour. 500miles would take me 7hours at least, because of speed limits. In reality more like 8, which means at least 2 stops but don't mind a third if the coffee and view is good.
Capitalism was never about prosperity. It is about the first derivative, which is wealth disparity.
exactly, EV or Hybrids in this state is a hard sell
I was being a bit humorously cynical with the greed is good thing. Lots of things drive change including social and emotional factors, but technology drives it the most. The fact that economic interests are aligning with environmental ones on solar, wind, batteries and EVs is cause for some optimism.
Ok, tell me how big oil and coal are preparing for a decarbonized future.
From what I can see impeding progress on renewables, mounting disinformation campaigns and generally freaking out, it's not just private oil companies, but countries like the Saudis and Russians, when they were selling oil. They influence a lot of international reports on renewables and such and were consistently underestimating their impact and still do. In reality there is not much an industry can do when their value chain is disrupted from the gas pump to the oil well. Like some creatures they thrash around before they die, projected solar and battery costs are the factors in their demise.
The ruins of industry giants and big corporations litter the landscape of the industrialized world, add them to the list eventually.
I think the point of his comment remains intact. Capitalism is a major thriving force for innovation. I do not agree with your first statement because of the 'was never' but yeah that's why I explicitly mentioned prosperity as something not included in capitalism, unlike greed. Big oil and coals actions don't refute that but to answer this:
By doing what they do best. Exploit countries, make deals with repressive nations, and use their power for more profits.
Capitalism scientists and engineers who want to make a buck or see their work make a difference is the fastest way to get it from the lab to the fab and get it into public or industrial use. Old Russian communism would have never tackled climate change the scientists would have been in a gulag. Not even powerful oil companies can do much if solar, batteries and EVs disrupt their value chains with lower costs for alternatives. Many countries want energy independence for economic and geopolitical reasons and policy will reflect this and eventually it will offer massive value to consumers.
Do you see that that kicks a big hole in the idea that market forces tend toward the common good?
It is a major driving force only for the kind of innovation that can be monopolized or cartelized.