Crickets and Cicada Seeds

Tolerance Break

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No offense, but I would rather rely on the expertise of the original breeder, who is world class in this case! As well as support his efforts to bring these amazing genetics to the public. The 4 Puck plants I grew were stellar, in consistency and vigor and potency! Can't wait to see what he does next!
I agree, Hemphill is the man, but NWSun put work into reproduction. Community preservation is what keeps these genetics going. I got 3 packs of his to work with before this project was made public, and I look forward to getting to all of them in due time!
 

jimihendrix1

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NWSun, also has the C&C Lebanese x Puck BC1--F2. I bought 2 packs, and he also had an original pack of Bandaid Haze #22 I bought.

I got 1 pack of the new C&C PNWHP release. Ill buy another one Monday, if any are left.

I had already bought a pack of the Master Kush, on first release.
MK had 21 seeds.
Initially, the C&C page wouldnt load any seeds, but a buddy on Instagram, sent me a link that worked. Strange how the link he sent worked, but if I went there without his link, no seeds showed up. Everything else did. But seeds didnt. They do now.
 

Tolerance Break

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NWSun, also has the C&C Lebanese x Puck BC1--F2. I bought 2 packs, and he also had an original pack of Bandaid Haze #22 I bought.

I got 1 pack of the new C&C PNWHP release. Ill buy another one Monday, if any are left.

I had already bought a pack of the Master Kush, on first release.
MK had 21 seeds.
Initially, the C&C page wouldnt load any seeds, but a buddy on Instagram, sent me a link that worked. Strange how the link he sent worked, but if I went there without his link, no seeds showed up. Everything else did. But seeds didnt. They do now.
Jealous as hell about that bandaid haze, that's a legendary one right there.

Yeah, his website got cooked from traffic. The PNWHP popped up at 8:59, I got it into my cart and it took 2 minutes of refreshing before I could check out. I'm really happy for him. I imagine he cuts deals for seedbanks because they buy bulk, or he gets a cut of all the sales. This is 100% money in his pocket (minus fees associated with payment processing) that's a huge boon for someone operating at his scale.

Edit: for freebies from NWsun I got some PNW haze, Purple Sour Thai, and HP Dog F2 which says it's (PNWHP(Chem91(PNWHPxnl1) )) which sounds amazing
 
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mandocat

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Jealous as hell about that bandaid haze, that's a legendary one right there.

Yeah, his website got cooked from traffic. The PNWHP popped up at 8:59, I got it into my cart and it took 2 minutes of refreshing before I could check out. I'm really happy for him. I imagine he cuts deals for seedbanks because they buy bulk, or he gets a cut of all the sales. This is 100% money in his pocket (minus fees associated with payment processing) that's a huge boon for someone operating at his scale.
Maybe he will participate in the new tissue culture genetics bank that Kevin Jodrey and others are putting together? Seems like a good way to keep disease free genetics with minimal effort!
 

Tolerance Break

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Maybe he will participate in the new tissue culture genetics bank that Kevin Jodrey and others are putting together? Seems like a good way to keep disease free genetics with minimal effort!
I am really curious to see how that plays out.

I'm waiting for the day someone who knows a strain well, but doesn't have a financial stake in its genetics, to run a clone only next to its maristem counterpart and see how it stacks up. So far, it sounds like a scientific fix all for reviving old cuts, but I'm waiting for proof I can actually see.
 

mandocat

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I am really curious to see how that plays out.

I'm waiting for the day someone who knows a strain well, but doesn't have a financial stake in its genetics, to run a clone only next to its maristem counterpart and see how it stacks up. So far, it sounds like a scientific fix all for reviving old cuts, but I'm waiting for proof I can actually see.
I saw somewhere on Insta that someone was going to do just that! Can't remember where.
 

8Rhizome8

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While Im just guessing, but the Skunk x Puck may be the same genetics Dominion Seed Company used as the male on some of their crossess.

They used the Puck- Also AKA Skelly HP on their Granny Skunk, Dominion Skunk, Local Skunk, Munson, Beefcake D, Dominion Skunk, Polecat BX, A. Dominion Diesel, Hoodoo. Capital G. Rowdy Chem, Savage Headband, Skunkband V2. Supa Fky.
The Skunk originatd from 80s Original Sk1.
I got 2 packs from the drop at SeedsHereNow, and was lucky I got those. 10 minutes after I got mine, they were sold out. I was just looking through my emails, and saw that C&C had a drop there about an hour or so earlier. I also wanted to get the Puck BX3, and the Shoreline, but they were already gone. I had also planned on getting 2 packs of the Sk x Puck, so I was glad I at least got those. I hope I can get in on future drops.

Last spring when C&C had the first drop of the Puck/NL1 backcrosses, I got 2 packs each of the PNWHP x Puck/NL1. Sensi Star x Puck/NL1. Lebanese/Puck-NL1, Puck/Puck/NL1, Lebanese x Puck/Puck/NL1, and gave them to a buddy to F2 all of them, but keep all of them pure.

They all got through, and even seeded the stuff was killer. Some of the best stuff Id seen in many years. The plants were also especially nice structurally. The PNWHP-Puck/NL1 were probably the best structured pure Indica plants Ive ever seen. They were huge for pure Indica, and even given they were put out late. They got about 6ft tall, and just as wide, or wider, and baseball bat type colas. If you put these out early, and they have all the food, water, sun, and a large amount of soil, I would say you could get at least 3.5lbs per plant. These are really nice plants.

But something bad happened. I usually talk to my buddy most everyday, but sometimes got 4-5 days without talking. So I had tried to contact him for 3-4 days, and couldnt get an answer, same with another friend of ours. So the other friend went out to his home, and though his car was there, couldnt get him to answer his door. Also consider our buddy lives 40 minutes out in the country. So they called me and told me thy couldnt get Carl to answer, and could I come out. So I went out, and couldnt get him to answer his door. Also consider our friend was 72 years old, and had 3 heart stents.
So I forced my way through his front door, and he was lying on his couch with a blanket over him like he had been sleeping, but as soon as I saw him, I knew he was dead, and had been for a few days. He was purple Black, and bloated. From his face to his legs. It was a sight I wont soon forget.
So I didnt go in because I didnt want to get accused by the cops of tampering with anything.
So we called the Coroner, and the coroner, and the cops came out there, and got his body. My buddy also liked to collect old cars, and restore them. And we were standing behind one of the cars, and I could smell weed. The smell was coming from the trunk. But my buddy also had probably 1-2 lbs of the seeds he had made, and we were going to split. So I assume the cops got all the seeds, and what weed he had. So I lost both buddy, and shit load of seeds.
I had also given him other seeds to make more seeds. 2 packs each of the following.
AKBeanBrains NL5 x Haze, Authentic Genetics NL2, AG Pure Haze, AG Sk1, AKBB NL1, AG NL5. Jaws Cherry AK47.

I also gave him 50 seeds each of Dominion Skunk, Local Skunk, Granny Skunk, as I had made seeds from these strains 2 years ago. And these 3 strains are also KILLER, though they wont get as big as the C&C gear. The best plants of thse strains are second to none. I had a friend come in that lives in Colorado 2 years ago, and smoked some of the Local Skunk with him, and he said it was the best weed he ever smoked.

So he had a shit ton of seeds. 10s of thousands. I dont really know the wight of all the seeds, but he had told me he had never had so many seeds. He had also been growing since 1979. And he said this was the mother load for seeds.
I didnt get to smoke any of it, but he said even seeded, it would blow your head of, and was really lung buster. He also said it was the largest amount of top quality genetics he had ever had, and he knew his weed.

My plan is to get the best couple males from the Skunk/Puck/NL1, and breed it to the AKBeanBraiins NL5 x Haze.

I had a cross of original 80s-90s NL% x Haze x Nevils Hashplant/ 80s Skunk 1, and grew it from 1991-1997, and the feds got it. iT WAS THE BEST STUFF i HAD SEEN IN 20 YEARS. As good or better than the best Thai, Columbian, Vietnamese, Panama Red, Oaxacan. Better than any of it, as was the taste of it. It wtasted like the finest Nepali Hash that was ever put on earth. was total lung buster, and was extremely paranoia inducing in some people. 1-2 hits and some people couldnt drive. One friends exgirlfrien is still mad at me because she swears I put PCP in it. Says weed cant get that strong. It made her sick for almost 4 hours, gagging, and dry heaving. She hates me 27 years later.
So Im trying to recreate that strain.
My buddy that passed I had also given thos seed in he 90s, and he agreed it was the best stuff he ever saw, but it got all crossed up, and he didnt keep it pure. It was also late outside. 1st week of November, but inside it was done in no longer than 7 weeks. You could even pick buds at 4 weeks, and microwave them on defrost, and it would blow your head clean off. So you could even take this stuff early, and would be better than anything anyone else had. You could take it at 6 weeks, and nobody would ever know it was taken a week early. Only thing suffered was the yield. It was also narrow leaf, and very thin stems, so structurally it took after the Haze. I was weird though that it was done so fast inside, but really late outside. I guess once the flowering photo period was triggered, it flowered like crazy. Just outside it was late to be triggered, but going from 24 hours veg, to 12 hours all at once really triggere the photo response. Outside it didnt start flowering until the 1st week in September.

But now at least Ive got both the Male, and Female genetics that my old strain had. Now the trick is to find a male and female that really click together. I already bought 5 packs of the AG NL5 x haze to look for the best female. That would be about 25 females if all the seed germinated, and it was 50/50 M/F. Id really like to go through about 200 females at a minimum, but its hard to do. Also I will give these genetics to a buddy to go through, and pick th best ones, as Im not doing anything, but this buddy and I have been doing things together since the late 70s. So he is well trusted, and knows his weed. I also gave him those old genetics I had, and when he used to sell some to his friends, he lost customers, because they said the weed was to strong. They wanted weed to come home to and relax after work. This stuff had them pacing, and looking out the curtains, to make sure the cops werent out there.
I too picked up the 1991 Polecat. Did my own backcross.
 

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jimihendrix1

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Just got these in the mail, from, NWsun.

I accidently, earlier said the Bandaid Haze was #22, which was wrong. It is the #7, which is what I wanted.
I also have the Shaka Zulu, which is the Bandaid Haze #22.
Got 28 seeds of the Silk Road F2.
Not counting the Bandaid Haze. NWsun, gave me 48 seeds altogether, for $125.
NWsun, is a very reliable, and honest person to deal with.

 

jimihendrix1

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Jealous as hell about that bandaid haze, that's a legendary one right there.

Yeah, his website got cooked from traffic. The PNWHP popped up at 8:59, I got it into my cart and it took 2 minutes of refreshing before I could check out. I'm really happy for him. I imagine he cuts deals for seedbanks because they buy bulk, or he gets a cut of all the sales. This is 100% money in his pocket (minus fees associated with payment processing) that's a huge boon for someone operating at his scale.

Edit: for freebies from NWsun I got some PNW haze, Purple Sour Thai, and HP Dog F2 which says it's (PNWHP(Chem91(PNWHPxnl1) )) which sounds amazing
Theres another guy on Strainly, that has a pack of the Bandaid Haze for sale, that I wanted to buy, but he wont take Cash, and I cant do PayPal. Funny. 20 years ago, I had a disput with PP, from Ebay, as I lost $1200 to a scammer, and they ended up closing my account, and ever since, I cant use the Bank Account. Ive still got the same one, and am not going to get another, just to use PP, when they didnt do anything about my $1200 loss, and actually punished me, for no reason.
 

Tolerance Break

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Theres another guy on Strainly, that has a pack of the Bandaid Haze for sale, that I wanted to buy, but he wont take Cash, and I cant do PayPal. Funny. 20 years ago, I had a disput with PP, from Ebay, as I lost $1200 to a scammer, and they ended up closing my account, and ever since, I cant use the Bank Account. Ive still got the same one, and am not going to get another, just to use PP, when they didnt do anything about my $1200 loss, and actually punished me, for no reason.
Fuck'em. Not accepting cash is just silly, but these are the times we live in.
 

jimihendrix1

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Man Im glad I got another pack of the PNWHP on Monday.. I always like to buy at least 2 packs if possible.
I got a pack when they were first released, but didnt have the cash in the bank, to buy 2, so I decided to wait until Monday, to buy another pack.
Then I saw how many packs were left ( 150 ) and thought, I may just wait until Tuesday, to put money in the bank. When I looked, there were about 150 packs left, as of 3PM, Monday.

Now, I just looked, and every pack, is gone!!! I bet at least 250-300 packs were sold, in 24-30 hours. Thats about 10 packs per hour, if 300 were released, and gone, in 30 hours. $1250.00 an hour.
Not counting the Master Kush.
 

voodoosdaddy

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Man Im glad I got another pack of the PNWHP on Monday.. I always like to buy at least 2 packs if possible.
I got a pack when they were first released, but didnt have the cash in the bank, to buy 2, so I decided to wait until Monday, to buy another pack.
Then I saw how many packs were left ( 150 ) and thought, I may just wait until Tuesday, to put money in the bank. When I looked, there were about 150 packs left, as of 3PM, Monday.

Now, I just looked, and every pack, is gone!!! I bet at least 250-300 packs were sold, in 24-30 hours. Thats about 10 packs per hour, if 300 were released, and gone, in 30 hours. $1250.00 an hour.
Not counting the Master Kush.
C&C have the goods and people know it. I love their gear.
 

mandocat

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Just got these in the mail, from, NWsun.

I accidently, earlier said the Bandaid Haze was #22, which was wrong. It is the #7, which is what I wanted.
I also have the Shaka Zulu, which is the Bandaid Haze #22.
Got 28 seeds of the Silk Road F2.
Not counting the Bandaid Haze. NWsun, gave me 48 seeds altogether, for $125.
NWsun, is a very reliable, and honest person to deal with.

Have you grown out any from NW Sun?
 

jimihendrix1

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Have you grown out any from NW Sun?
Kind of.
I gave a buddy 10 seeds of the PNWHP F2. Got 6 females, and 4 males. 100% germ rate.

Grew into medium sized bushes, with nice thick buds, loaded with trichomes, and really really potent. Probably as good, maybe better than the Puck BC1-2-3. Grows faster. Dont smoke in the day, unless you dont have anything to do. Potent, long lasting high.
I can see why NWSun, says its the most potent weed, in his garden. Stronger than the Silk Road, of which I asked him. But he says the SR, has a really different, desirable type of high.
For $45 a pack. Its hard to beat the PNWHP F2s. Just for the genetics alone. Potent stuff, for $45 a pack.
Has an earthy, hash taste. Sweet candy. And plants were very very uniform, just like he states in his description. I found his description, spot on. Harvest was 38oz, from 6 females.
Plants were grown under a
1150w Gavita DE HPS.
10 gallon containers
Promix BX.
Vegged 60 days under 1000w Hortilux Blue.
Seedlings were also started under the 1000w Hortilux Blue.
Master Blend 4-18-38
15.5-0-0 Calcium Nitrate
Epsom Salts
Azomite
Kelp.
Used the Azomite, and Kelp for the Micros.
 
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mandocat

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Kind of.
I gave a buddy 10 seeds of the PNWHP F2. Got 6 females, and 4 males. 100% germ rate.

Grew into medium sized bushes, with nice thick buds, loaded with trichomes, and really really potent. Probably as good, maybe better than the Puck BC1-2-3. Grows faster. Dont smoke in the day, unless you dont have anything to do. Potent, long lasting high.
I can see why NWSun, says its the most potent weed, in his garden. Stronger than the Silk Road, of which I asked him. But he says the SR, has a really different, desirable type of high.
For $45 a pack. Its hard to beat the PNWHP F2s. Just for the genetics alone. Potent stuff, for $45 a pack.
Has an earthy, hash taste. Sweet candy. And plants were very very uniform, just like he states in his description. I found his description, spot on. Harvest was 38oz, from 6 females.
Plants were grown under a
1150w Gavita DE HPS.
10 gallon containers
Promix BX.
Vegged 60 days under 1000w Hortilux Blue.
Seedlings were also started under the 1000w Hortilux Blue.
Master Blend 4-18-38
15.5-0-0 Calcium Nitrate
Epsom Salts
Azomite
Kelp.
Used the Azomite, and Kelp for the Micros.
Sounds like Puck! Which it is a part of. I wonder how NW Sun went about selecting a male or males for his seed increase?
 
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