Tips for best possible outdoor crop

Sevenleaves

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no it’s some sort of bug, pictured here. IPM is going to be a mountain this year. Idk what’s different from the previous years other than all the rain. But I only really had to deal with caterpillars, and some minor spider mites on one plant. Might be the last year I plant directly into the ground depending on how the container plants do outside this year.
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Outside you need to spray. I like Captain Jacks, safe and works well.
 
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_EQ

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Outside you need to spray. I like Captain Jacks, safe and works well.
Yeah I’ve got some BT on the way have been looking at different sprays. I’ll have to check out Jacks. Is it organic? Trying to keep it as organic as possible
 

_EQ

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Yep. I'd rotate every other week with Diamataceous Earth as well. Might as well get some BT spray, you'll get caterpillars later on and it's hard to find come harvest time.
Got some BT on the way, already have some DE, would you turn it into a spray or just sprinkle it on the ground?
 
Jack's dead bug is organic, it's spinosad. I sprinkle DE, some people use a fogger and yes, make sure it's on the soil around the base as well.

My girls look like a powdered donut after I apply it.

Have fun dude it's what it's all about.
 
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GrnMonStr

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I have similar conditions and same issues with the pests and mold. Being able to move plants around that are in pots might be a very good idea!

If you have room for a compost area 4'x4' then defiantly save all your kitchen waste like old veggies, coffee grinds, etc. Every month I get a 5 gallon full bucket of moldy rotten stuff that goes in my compost pile. Many years ago I bought 500 red wiggler worms as was previously mentioned, great Idea to add them. So all my oak leaves from fall get mowed then dumped there and grass. I don't use weed and feed on my lawn so no issues. Composting leaves can takes years unless you have a perfect ratio as I learned so in the mean time you have to do an alternative approach and you may not get enough either so sometimes I have to mix it up and supplement but always for me and my preference it is done very sparingly if using chemicals and not too often. Typically I stay with compost, organic additives found in super soil recipes, and OMRI labeled stuff.

This year I am growing in a 16'x12' cold frame green house and I will have fans and possibly a dehumidifier not sure how that will workout first time like this for me this year. Hoping this will help me with the mold issues. But also new this year is a 70% Sativa strain I am trying out instead of my typical Indica strains so hoping the buds will be not as dense and help with air flow through and around the buds.
 

taproot

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Curious what you guys are doing in Oklahoma right now? I moved to the East part of the state and wanted to do my first grow outdoors and have some autos that I started indoors and just put outdoors in tubs. They are just starting to flower. I'm concerned because it's so dam humid right now, is this normal for East Oklahoma? The humidity generally was over by mid Jun in DFW and it's basically July now and it's currently 80% outside here. I'm concerned about mold. Also, as mentioned early in this post I see some of you use a blower to get the dew off. I noticed this here to...in the mornings the grass is wet even in the summer. I didn't get this in the city back in Dallas. Is blowing the dew off a all long summer job, it's quite the walk out to the pasture where I put them. The bugs are so much bigger and more species than I'm used to. I got the Jacks dead bug brew with spinosad. I've sprayed them once today for the first time. How many times is acceptable to spay them and when to stop before harvesting. There's a lot of concern over spinosad so I want to be safe.

Anyways, tips for a new outside grower here in East Oklahoma welcomed please.
 

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Coldnasty

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Lots of information and knowledge on here! Any of you have any tips for someone that wants to push their outdoor grow to its limits? Realistically my outdoor grows have always been lackluster compared to my indoor grows. Some of you seasoned outdoors growers what are some things you do to get the best buds?
Ezpz start later, less mess and fuss and good output. End of story
 
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_EQ

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Curious what you guys are doing in Oklahoma right now? I moved to the East part of the state and wanted to do my first grow outdoors and have some autos that I started indoors and just put outdoors in tubs. They are just starting to flower. I'm concerned because it's so dam humid right now, is this normal for East Oklahoma? The humidity generally was over by mid Jun in DFW and it's basically July now and it's currently 80% outside here. I'm concerned about mold. Also, as mentioned early in this post I see some of you use a blower to get the dew off. I noticed this here to...in the mornings the grass is wet even in the summer. I didn't get this in the city back in Dallas. Is blowing the dew off a all long summer job, it's quite the walk out to the pasture where I put them. The bugs are so much bigger and more species than I'm used to. I got the Jacks dead bug brew with spinosad. I've sprayed them once today for the first time. How many times is acceptable to spay them and when to stop before harvesting. There's a lot of concern over spinosad so I want to be safe.

Anyways, tips for a new outside grower here in East Oklahoma welcomed please.
Yeah that’s humid, it CAN get that humid here but it’s usually a string of humid days and than it dips back down, or before and after storms the high humidity lingers around for a few days. Never super prolonged weeks of consistent 70+ humidity days. Best bet would be to leave them somewhere that gets a lot of sun
Ezpz start later, less mess and fuss and good output. End of story
So I started, with some clones that were taking forever to root. They’ve been outside in 10g smart pots for a few weeks now. By starting late would you consider early/mid June late?
 

taproot

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Yeah that’s humid, it CAN get that humid here but it’s usually a string of humid days and than it dips back down, or before and after storms the high humidity lingers around for a few days. Never super prolonged weeks of consistent 70+ humidity days. Best bet would be to leave them somewhere that gets a lot of sun

So I started, with some clones that were taking forever to root. They’ve been outside in 10g smart pots for a few weeks now. By starting late would you consider early/mid June late?
It's 9:30AM and it's 70%..before I went to bed it was 82%. Last week was really humid and this week looks like it's going to be really humid. I'm used to Jun and July being just hot and dry. Anyways, do you guy use an preventive fungicides? I'm trying to figure out how many times to spray the Jacks and if I need fungicide and when and when not to spray that.

They are in a cage out in the yard getting good light all day except when the plans show up spraying that shit in the sky blotting the sun out.
 
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_EQ

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It's 9:30AM and it's 70%..before I went to bed it was 82%. Last week was really humid and this week looks like it's going to be really humid. I'm used to Jun and July being just hot and dry. Anyways, do you guy use an preventive fungicides? I'm trying to figure out how many times to spray the Jacks and if I need fungicide and when and when not to spray that.

They are in a cage out in the yard getting good light all day except when the plans show up spraying that shit in the sky blotting the sun out.
Airflow circulation is really important in a tent grow for a number of reasons. I would only imagine outdoors in super humid conditions they would only benefit from having a good airflow on them. Definitely be as proactive as you can pruning. You don’t want too many lower nodes that don’t see much sun light or air flow sticking around too long especially in humid environments, that’s a good way to get PM fast. I haven’t used it yet but BT for caterpillars I get them bad here but I’ve gotten the recommendations here for it so I have some OTW. Captain jacks also will be here this week. Humidity isn’t a bad thing per se but too much humidity, with heat, or cold, plus not enough air circulation will lead to mold issues. I’d 1000% be training them out so that there’s good space for air to catch as much of the plant as possible. If you’re gonna get bud rot from anything it’ll be from caterpillars, or not enough air circulation and too much humidity.
 

_EQ

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Sorry to revive an old thread but. I thought I’d give you guys an update for helping me grow the best outdoor buds I’ve ever grown to date. Firstly, thank you for all the super sound advice. I took in all the recommendations and tips I could from here and because of that the quality and yields improved by leaps and bounds. I did run into a few issues the major one being septoria. We ended up with a couple weeks of intense humidity at night and during the day complimented by a few days of consecutive rain. It seemed to accelerate it and I lost an in ground plant from it 1 of 4. Neem oil spray helped combat the septoria and it saved my other plants. Secondly I had minor budrot late in flower, the preventative plan of captain jacks and BT really held off the caterpillars, and other pests. Overall this was a super successful season, here are some pics of the girls before and after the chop!
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Sevenleaves

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First, a lot depends on where you are. I'm in Oklahoma so there is a long growing season. I usually start my plants late in April to get them out in early may. (Remember the days are shorter so your indoor lighting should be about 14 hours on to keep them from going into flower when you put them out). I plant in the ground, not in pots.

It's never too late to amined your soil, but it's best to get it ready in the fall. I start with a hole 4 feet diameter and 18 inches deep. The hole is refilled with the 1/3 soil, 1/3 compost, and 1/3 manure. Do side dressings thru the grow of compost and manure.

Most of the problems that I have seen are caused by people feeding their plants. There's nutrient burn and deficiency. Stay with organic and in the the ground and those problems mostly go away.

Pest control is easy enough if you pay attention to your plants. My total pest control is first: Keep the plants clean. I like to hose them off maybe once a week early in the morning while the is still dew. Second: Spray once a week with soapy water and then with BT.

One major thing is don't try to love them to death. They are plants, just like you tomatos. That's about how much attention you should give them. Just keep them fed and watered and the bugs off.
Exactly!
 

joesoap2013

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Across the pond here I wouldnt even want to have a plant outdoors post September even
Any good autos yall could recommend
I'd have to flower them start of july which is near the solstice
 
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