Is this a Silly Idea?

[Budzbuddha]

I run mixed tents ( photos and autos ) - 18/6 or 20/4 for full veg upfront ( waiting for for photo to sex ) then flip. Autos are undisturbed and flower as they will.

Once Flip is on for photos ( week 6-8 depending when i want to flip them ) - autos are in mid to late flower anyways. 12/12 will not factor into them since they are still blooming til finish.

Photo in the front - Autos in the back.
Same Tent - 12/12

 

[MickFoster]

Autos tend to have a bloom cycle 2-3 weeks shorter then their photo cusons. Its how ruderrails adapted to growing in high altitudes. They are accustomed to blooming during much longer light cycles to finish before the cold dark winters set in. They want a lot more photon intake. A lot of auto breaders recomend 24/7 lights on

I appreciate the response, however it didn't answer my question. In my question both the photo and the auto had an 8-10 flower time.

 

[VaSmile]

I appreciate the response, however it didn't answer my question. In my question both the photo and the auto had an 8-10 flower time.

Ruderrails eveloved in arctic or subarctic territorys. The seasonal and solar cycles are so much faster and extream compaired to lower altitudes, and the growing season is so short 4 months or so 5 max. They would spend their entire life spand being absolutly blasted with solar radiation for 16-22hrs a day. We have come a long way with selective breeding so maybe your right, none of that truely matters, and im compleatly off base here, im not a botanist. But a true ruderrail in nature would live its whole life cycle well between equinoxes may-august never getting less then a 15-16hr light cycle

 

[MickFoster]

Ruderrails eveloved in arctic or subarctic territorys. The seasonal and solar cycles are so much faster and extream compaired to lower altitudes, and the growing season is so short 4 months or so 5 max. They would spend their entire life spand being absolutly blasted with solar radiation for 16-22hrs a day. We have come a long way with selective breeding so maybe your right, none of that truely matters, and im compleatly off base here, im not a botanist. But a true ruderrail in nature would live its whole life cycle well between equinoxes may-august never getting less then a 15-16hr light cycle

I understand all that, and I know an extended light cycle can produce more bud. But my point is..........2 plants, one auto and one photo. Both have the same veg time, flower time, and light schedule. Why do people say growing photos and autos together is a bad idea? Won't the auto produce just as much as the photo? That is basically what the OP wants to know.

 

[SouthFloridaGenetics]

I understand all that, and I know an extended light cycle can produce more bud. But my point is..........2 plants, one auto and one photo. Both have the same veg time, flower time, and light schedule. Why do people say the auto will suffer? Won't the auto produce just as much as the photo? That is basically what the OP wants to know.

I have grown autos and photos and feel my personal experience will support my answering this question. The photo will yield more when growing side by side with an auto. The auto needs 18 hours or more of light to produce as much or more than the photo plant. The photo will produce more yield on the 12/12 cycle than the auto every time.

 

[MickFoster]

I have grown autos and photos and feel my personal experience will support my answering this question. The photo will yield more when growing side by side with an auto. The auto needs 18 hours or more of light to produce as much or more than the photo plant. The photo will produce more yield on the 12/12 cycle than the auto every time.

I've grown both photos and autos together as well and never noticed any difference in plant size or yield. But that's just me I guess.

 

[SouthFloridaGenetics]

I've grown both photos and autos together as well and never noticed any difference in plant size or yield. But that's just me I guess.

Here is the way to do it.

Grow the auto and photo side by side on a 12/12 light cycle. Then grow the same strain auto on 18/6 while growing the same strain photo on 12/12. My assumption is that the same auto on 18/6 will produce more than the auto on 12/12. And the auto on 18/6 will have a chance of yielding more than the 12/12 photo. Auto flower on 12/12 works fine but not to it's potential.

 

[MickFoster]

Here is the way to do it.

Grow the auto and photo side by side on a 12/12 light cycle. Then grow the same strain auto on 18/6 while growing the same strain photo on 12/12. My assumption is that the same auto on 18/6 will produce more than the auto on 12/12. And the auto on 18/6 will have a chance of yielding more than the 12/12 photo. Auto flower on 12/12 works fine but not to it's potential.

Appreciate the input, however you guys are missing my point.

 

[Mumbeltypeg]

I appreciate the response, however it didn't answer my question. In my question both the photo and the auto had an 8-10 flower time.

Just do 12/12.. autos are flexible, photos aren’t really.

 

[Mumbeltypeg]

I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I have a question that directly relates to the thread topic.
If you have one photo and one auto, and you start the light schedule at 18/6..........theoretically they would be approximately the same size after 4 weeks.
You switch to 12/12 at 4 weeks so the photo can flower and your auto just started flowering as well.
They are both 8-10 week strains.
If they start the same size at the start of flower and they're both under the same amount of light........why wouldn't the auto yield the same as the photo?
Everyone says it will hurt the yield of the auto.........why would it be different than the photo?
Can someone explain?

It wouldn’t.. if you grow a photo and auto for the same amount of time they should be in the same ballpark.. the benefits of photos are you can veg longer to increase size and yield, the benefit of autos are you can smash them with more light in the same flower time to get more yield.. but you could grow them both for the same time period and get roughly the same yield.

 

[VaSmile]

Appreciate the input, however you guys are missing my point.

Well i gusse the only way to know is to try it, journal it, and see what happens. I have explained my understanding the best i can, other members have chrept in with conflicting oppinions. Best ive gotten out of a auto is about 6oz worst ive gotten out of a photo is about 4-5oz on almost no veg time.
I rarely run the same strain twice and am always trying different methods. Great for expanding basic understanding but not good for hammering out real science.
Anybody working in a lab with real batoney credetials that can point us to hard data?

 

[VaSmile]

I understand all that, and I know an extended light cycle can produce more bud. But my point is..........2 plants, one auto and one photo. Both have the same veg time, flower time, and light schedule. Why do people say growing photos and autos together is a bad idea? Won't the auto produce just as much as the photo? That is basically what the OP wants to know.

Again im not saying its bad or shouldnt be done. Its Ops first grow and think it will be stressful and difficult and recommending that he K.I.S.S until he learns a little better what he is doing