couchlock'd

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Nothing Sensi seeds has is real anymore. Its all white label shit from Spain. Same with greenhouse seeds, rqs, Barney's, etc. Barney's does have a few decent line's still, lsd being One, and possibly the only' one.

When you buy from Sensi seeds, greenhouse seeds, rqs, Sweet seed's, female seeds, Barney's, Dutch passion and most older Dutch companies with the exception of paradise seeds and serious seeds now, 99% of them are buying bulk packs labeled indica, sativa and hybrid. They'll fill multiple packs of dozens of different indica dominant strains from the same bulk pack indica seed's, same with sativa, and hybrid.

Real NL will come from these places; authentic Genetics Seed, CSI Humboldt, AK Bean brains and 1 or 2 other American breeders.
 

conor c

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Nothing Sensi seeds has is real anymore. Its all white label shit from Spain. Same with greenhouse seeds, rqs, Barney's, etc. Barney's does have a few decent line's still, lsd being One, and possibly the only' one.

When you buy from Sensi seeds, greenhouse seeds, rqs, Sweet seed's, female seeds, Barney's, Dutch passion and most older Dutch companies with the exception of paradise seeds and serious seeds now, 99% of them are buying bulk packs labeled indica, sativa and hybrid. They'll fill multiple packs of dozens of different indica dominant strains from the same bulk pack indica seed's, same with sativa, and hybrid.

Real NL will come from these places; authentic Genetics Seed, CSI Humboldt, AK Bean brains and 1 or 2 other American breeders.
They do get them in from Spain however I have to disagree they got some gems in there still in certain lines sure it's a shadow of it's heyday but what seed company isn't after 30 odd years ? Also I'd trust AK beanbrains or CSI I agree with you there I wouldn't trust agseeds there sketchy imo also the line sensi sell is a combo of nl 1 2 5 made for them by breeder steve years back
 
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couchlock'd

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They do get them in from Spain however I have to disagree they got some gems in there still in certain lines sure it's a shadow of it's heyday but what seed company isn't after 30 odd years ? Also I'd trust AK beanbrains or CSI I agree with you there I wouldn't trust agseeds there sketchy imo also the line sensi sell is a combo of nl 1 2 5 made for them by breeder steve years back
Ain't nothing sketchy about todd. Grow his stuff before you Foster that opinion. I see you in the ag thread, everything Todd does is 100% transparent and can be backed up by the source.

If it's about the f2 or ibl moniker on his nl line's, that's Just trying to give the most accurate description of what they are. They're inbred ti themselves, he does outright say there's lot's of variation. Idea is to keep the line wide open ss ge can to let us make selections to further work it or find that One keeper.
 

conor c

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Ain't nothing sketchy about todd. Grow his stuff before you Foster that opinion. I see you in the ag thread, everything Todd does is 100% transparent and can be backed up by the source.

If it's about the f2 or ibl moniker on his nl line's, that's Just trying to give the most accurate description of what they are. They're inbred ti themselves, he does outright say there's lot's of variation. Idea is to keep the line wide open ss ge can to let us make selections to further work it or find that One keeper.
Agree to disagree and what source the nl crew they can't even make there mind up about what is in nl in the first place so idk how credible they are anyway I don't wanna argue we just have different opinions on it bud IL say no more
 

couchlock'd

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Agree to disagree and what source the nl crew they can't even make there mind up about what is in nl in the first place so idk how credible they are anyway I don't wanna argue we just have different opinions on it bud IL say no more
It was 45 year's ago with the nl Crew. And the concern what is in it only started being a reality about 4 years ago. Greg's doing his Best to recall. As well as being likely stoned to the gills for the last 45 year's as well.

And because Greg can't exactly 200% without a doubt say positively every single plant that the crew used to cross to the purest indica makes Todd himself sketch?

Its ok to discuss, im not sure how old you are, but 2 adults discussing something with different stances on it is not arguing, it's healthy discussion. No One can benefit if one side decides to shut down if opposition to Thier narrative or opinion is presented. What happened to the days where 2 people can have a conversation about thing's with different views without it being labeled "toxic" or whatever.

Unless you know your argument is Rather pointless or lacks substance, which based on your "pop in and out" comment style you know it does.

Its easy, nl5 was the Murphy's Afghani crossed to the Indians Hawaiian which is said to be Mexican or Columbian or a mix of the 2.

Others 1 through 11 skipping 5 are random sativa's and in the case of 1 and 2 Afghanis from Neville.

BUT all that really don't matter, as the NL's that nev started with had the same unknowns present, it didn't prevent him From growing, liking them, and making amazingly potent and recognized hybrids from them that's sired and produced many of the elites in the last 25 year's

What's awesome about the NL line tod has is we can pick up right where Nevil started without any modern bottlenecked influence introduced.

The nl 5 line in seed form he has isn't so much about finding super smoke, which csb be found, but its More about having a genetic that's not tainted with the last 3 decade's of shitty breeding goal's.

We can have the same starting points as Neville did in 84
 

conor c

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It was 45 year's ago with the nl Crew. And the concern what is in it only started being a reality about 4 years ago. Greg's doing his Best to recall. As well as being likely stoned to the gills for the last 45 year's as well.

And because Greg can't exactly 200% without a doubt say positively every single plant that the crew used to cross to the purest indica makes Todd himself sketch?

Its ok to discuss, im not sure how old you are, but 2 adults discussing something with different stances on it is not arguing, it's healthy discussion. No One can benefit if one side decides to shut down if opposition to Thier narrative or opinion is presented. What happened to the days where 2 people can have a conversation about thing's with different views without it being labeled "toxic" or whatever.

Unless you know your argument is Rather pointless or lacks substance, which based on your "pop in and out" comment style you know it does.

Its easy, nl5 was the Murphy's Afghani crossed to the Indians Hawaiian which is said to be Mexican or Columbian or a mix of the 2.

Others 1 through 11 skipping 5 are random sativa's and in the case of 1 and 2 Afghanis from Neville.

BUT all that really don't matter, as the NL's that nev started with had the same unknowns present, it didn't prevent him From growing, liking them, and making amazingly potent and recognized hybrids from them that's sired and produced many of the elites in the last 25 year's

What's awesome about the NL line tod has is we can pick up right where Nevil started without any modern bottlenecked influence introduced.

The nl 5 line in seed form he has isn't so much about finding super smoke, which csb be found, but its More about having a genetic that's not tainted with the last 3 decade's of shitty breeding goal's.

We can have the same starting points as Neville did in 84
Those seeds are not gonna be the same as what Nevil got his was different more indica influence the USA nl5 isn't even like the one he worked with so how will it be the same as Nevils that line is the "one" that made it famous and most people know and are looking for there two different lines the not wanting to argue bit is just the fact this has all been gone over on here and many other places already man
 

klx

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It was Nevil's selection of NL5 that made it famous. He had a knack for selecting excellent breeding stock and it was his clone that made all the NL5/Haze cuts that are still famous and alive to this day. RIP Nev!
 

budtoker221

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When you buy from Sensi seeds, greenhouse seeds, rqs, Sweet seed's, female seeds, Barney's, Dutch passion and most older Dutch companies with the exception of paradise seeds and serious seeds now, 99% of them are buying bulk packs labeled indica, sativa and hybrid. They'll fill multiple packs of dozens of different indica dominant strains from the same bulk pack indica seed's, same with sativa, and hybrid.
Hahaha . Wow. I hope that’s an exaggeration
Although thats gotta be how it works at half these new online generic storefronts like I49, growers choice, pacific seedbank etc with their 5000 strain inventory (yeah right)

I recently grew out Sensis NL and Maple Leaf Indica and they did appear to be different strains so I doubt they’re both sourced from the same “indica seed bin” hahaha
The NL was a bit bland but the maple leaf was not bad, I might pop more of those. it had a nice clean lemony flavor like it’s supposed to apparently.. however I hadn’t grown it before so can’t compare to what it used to be like.

hopefully the Spaniard bulk seed outsourcers are at least keeping the Maple Leaf line intact, since that line is supposed to be one of the original heirloom high grade afghans.
 

conor c

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It was Nevil's selection of NL5 that made it famous. He had a knack for selecting excellent breeding stock and it was his clone that made all the NL5/Haze cuts that are still famous and alive to this day. RIP Nev!
Exactly my point his one is what most of the world knows and loved he definitely had the eye for selection the work all speaks for itself
 

conor c

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Hahaha . Wow. I hope that’s an exaggeration
Although thats gotta be how it works at half these new online generic storefronts like I49, growers choice, pacific seedbank etc with their 5000 strain inventory (yeah right)

I recently grew out Sensis NL and Maple Leaf Indica and they did appear to be different strains so I doubt they’re both sourced from the same “indica seed bin” hahaha
The NL was a bit bland but the maple leaf was not bad, I might pop more of those. it had a nice clean lemony flavor like it’s supposed to apparently.. however I hadn’t grown it before so can’t compare to what it used to be like.

hopefully the Spaniard bulk seed outsourcers are at least keeping the Maple Leaf line intact, since that line is supposed to be one of the original heirloom high grade afghans.
It's only 3/4 maple leaf meant to be a tiny bit of skunk in the sensi maple leaf indica line according to Nevil Vs the maple leaf line from Jim ortega that spawned that black domina etc regardless it's a nice enough strain fdm seeds sells the Ortega one
 
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