Matrix Reloaded/Silo Grow Method

Sedan

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Здравствуйте, Товарищи!

Been drinking all weekend... No, not vodka, vodka makes me turn into the Hulk... just as green and fidgety.))

I don't use strong and invigorating drinks now. Most of the strong alcohol is invigorating, and beer hops contain a substance that is similar to opium in its effect - this substance relaxes and calms me down. When combined with marijuana, it is a very powerful sedative. It does not cause the side effects of alcohol, such as aggression, irrepressible energy...etc. just peace. Even the occasional explosion nearby can't get in the way of that.))

Thus, for the weekend, I relieve stress..... alone.))


There's nothing new about the installation. There is nothing to show yet.

The only thing is that I would like to share my observations with you. My thoughts were prompted by what is happening in my rig right now.

These observations are mostly related to outdoors, but for us, for indore, it will also be useful.

We will talk about the light regime in plants.

How a plant actually reacts to the light regime.

As far as we know, a plant in 18/6 mode is in vega mode. This is a fact that cannot be disputed. But time after time, when I cycle in Pegasus, I run into the same case. As you know, the vega in my setup tends to be very long. And after some time, the plants start to bloom in 18/6 mode.


I am not an outdoors grower, so I asked a friend of mine who is, to give me a regular report on his indore plants, in order to get to the bottom of this issue. What is it, my mistake in technology or is it something else.

My friend's plant was planted in late April in the outdor. We have a light regime in April of approximately 12/12-14/10. This primarily suggests that the plants are starting to vega at the 12/12 regime.

At the end of June we have a light regime of 18/6. Plants start showing sex in mid July. By the first of August there are already many stigmas.

I concluded that the plants are ready to bloom and bloom not from the change of light regime, but from the time of the vegetative period, which the plant spends in nature, so as to mature before frost.

Comparing all this to what is happening in my setup, I conclude that a cannabis plant starts to flower at 18/6 light regime after 3-4 months. This process can be shortened by planting the plant in a small container. When there is very little room for the roots, the plant starts to produce stigmas sooner.

Most of the plants in the plant with a very large number of stigmas. One plant is almost in the dandelions. This will surely slow down the dynamics of further growth, because it's like a reweg.

Yes, it was my mistake, I somewhat over-exposed the plants in a small container because of the circumstances.

But this unplanned experiment, I think, is useful.

No, if I had left the plant in the small container 18/6, it would not have fully bloomed, it would have frozen in that state until it was transplanted into a larger container, which I have now done.


sorry for the quality...i cant get the angle on this camera...shit.....

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Rocket Soul

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Start of flowering seems like its more complicated inside the plant than the standard switch to 12/12 we see from the outside: all mechanisms are probably not known.

Ive seen a friend accidentally push his plants into flower when he put them out for some free veg in the sun in april: they were decent sized and under long nights so they flowered, but with days getting longer and longer qll the way towards the longest days of the year. They flowered very well, dis not go back to vegg when days got really long and were extremely potent: probably as it was due to finishing in the high summer with high uv.
Other things ive seen push a plant into flower is spectrum: running normal white lights for 12 hours and "mars night"; 12 hours of only 660 red at night when youd normally do complete darkness. Should be impossible according to the established thinking but it happened.

So i guess the answer is that the plants will do what they do; small pots also seem a very relevant sign the plant uses to flower as it is always trying to "survive" by creating flowers and procreating a new generation. Sorry if this doesnt solve your questions but at least it can start the conversation about this :)

I really hope youre well; when i read what youre going thru i remember initial lock down for covid in Spain when information was very little; we didnt know if it was just two weeks with netflix or maybe the beginning of the end of all. Loneliness and lack of contact is a real hazard to the soul. I have friends that lost it from being locked up all the time. Its like jail, not a nice thing. My sympathies to you, grower, and stay strong. Hope for a speedy and happy end to all that youre suffering. Do not let the dark thoughts over power you.
 

Sedan

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Start of flowering seems like its more complicated inside the plant than the standard switch to 12/12 we see from the outside: all mechanisms are probably not known.
Yes, that's exactly what I wanted to convey!

There was a funny incident about this. On one of the most popular forums from ... censorship.. I had a big argument about this with a person who is a big authority there. It was before the war.

This person was like, as I wrote here. The very best administrator, only there they are called moderators.

And he did not believe me when I tried to explain it there. that plants can bloom 18/6.. Moreover, he laughed at me.))) When I started writing this here, I was a little scared that after I write.. they will start laughing at me.)))

Thank you, Bro, for understanding!

This just says that your level is still higher than ours.., what I wrote above. Because you found out about everything earlier... and we, as always, have to catch up.)).. copy))) But we were the first to fly into space, when there was no one to copy from.))

Ive seen a friend accidentally push his plants into flower when he put them out for some free veg in the sun in april: they were decent sized and under long nights so they flowered, but with days getting longer and longer qll the way towards the longest days of the year. They flowered very well, dis not go back to vegg when days got really long and were extremely potent: probably as it was due to finishing in the high summer with high uv.
It depends on the angle of incidence of the rays of light. You are from Europe, so you have the same...

It happens either in the evening or in the fall - when the sun shines obliquely on the earth. Then the color of the sun is more red, and when the sun is at its zenith, it is whiter. With a red spectrum, plants bloom better.

Because autumn and spring are a mirror image in the light cycle.

From this we conclude that you are absolutely right! April and May (September / October) are a great time for flowering! No, not ultraviolet - red.

Should be impossible according to the established thinking but it happened.
You're spot on! Yes, a stagnant opinion is the enemy of progress!

Everything should flow and change...

Very often in my life I had to fight with these growing gurus)).. who think that they already know everything!

You are right, Bro!

So i guess the answer is that the plants will do what they do; small pots also seem a very relevant sign the plant uses to flower as it is always trying to "survive" by creating flowers and procreating a new generation. Sorry if this doesnt solve your questions but at least it can start the conversation about this :)
This is exactly what I need!

Yes, you are absolutely right! The size of the pot also has a lot to do with it. But I also... can't fully understand it..

Once my wife planted them just like now, in a small pot, only these were autos.

And there was a very similar situation!! These autos grew and began to bloom exactly until there was soil for the roots. As soon as the cups were completely filled with roots, the growth and flowering suddenly stopped. The plants were 10 cm high, and there were weak "dandelions" in them. When there was free space, my wife transplanted... autos... into a larger container, after a few days, they began to grow... and eventually grew the same as usual.)) This case impressed me very much. Namely, how you can freeze, freeze the flowering of cannabis.

I was sure that those autos would turn out to be dwarfs, I scolded my wife for transplanting them.)) And then I... let myself down in front of my wife.)) I also thought then that I knew everything.)))

Loneliness and lack of contact is a real hazard to the soul. I have friends that lost it from being locked up all the time. Its like jail, not a nice thing.
))) Bro, this is a very subtle point! Loneliness is the philosopher's stone.)) Loneliness is wisdom in its purest form.

I can simply explain to you why this is so.

When you are cut off from society, you think exclusively with your head. The longer you are alone.. the longer you think.. with your head..

And when you go out to people, you are amazed at what they are.. hmm.. you get me.))

Everything that you perceive and absorb, you absorb from society. You absorb what is accepted to absorb or what is available to you to absorb. You don't even have time to figure out what you are absorbing... And whether you need it or not!

Everything is imposed on you - this is your worldview or world awareness. Live for several years in another world.. you will completely change in your consciousness.

My sympathies to you, grower, and stay strong. Hope for a speedy and happy end to all that youre suffering. Do not let the dark thoughts over power you.
Thank you, Bro, it's very interesting to talk to you!
 

Rocket Soul

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Yes, that's exactly what I wanted to convey!

There was a funny incident about this. On one of the most popular forums from ... censorship.. I had a big argument about this with a person who is a big authority there. It was before the war.

This person was like, as I wrote here. The very best administrator, only there they are called moderators.

And he did not believe me when I tried to explain it there. that plants can bloom 18/6.. Moreover, he laughed at me.))) When I started writing this here, I was a little scared that after I write.. they will start laughing at me.)))

Thank you, Bro, for understanding!

This just says that your level is still higher than ours.., what I wrote above. Because you found out about everything earlier... and we, as always, have to catch up.)).. copy))) But we were the first to fly into space, when there was no one to copy from.))



It depends on the angle of incidence of the rays of light. You are from Europe, so you have the same...

It happens either in the evening or in the fall - when the sun shines obliquely on the earth. Then the color of the sun is more red, and when the sun is at its zenith, it is whiter. With a red spectrum, plants bloom better.

Because autumn and spring are a mirror image in the light cycle.

From this we conclude that you are absolutely right! April and May (September / October) are a great time for flowering! No, not ultraviolet - red.


You're spot on! Yes, a stagnant opinion is the enemy of progress!

Everything should flow and change...

Very often in my life I had to fight with these growing gurus)).. who think that they already know everything!

You are right, Bro!


This is exactly what I need!

Yes, you are absolutely right! The size of the pot also has a lot to do with it. But I also... can't fully understand it..

Once my wife planted them just like now, in a small pot, only these were autos.

And there was a very similar situation!! These autos grew and began to bloom exactly until there was soil for the roots. As soon as the cups were completely filled with roots, the growth and flowering suddenly stopped. The plants were 10 cm high, and there were weak "dandelions" in them. When there was free space, my wife transplanted... autos... into a larger container, after a few days, they began to grow... and eventually grew the same as usual.)) This case impressed me very much. Namely, how you can freeze, freeze the flowering of cannabis.

I was sure that those autos would turn out to be dwarfs, I scolded my wife for transplanting them.)) And then I... let myself down in front of my wife.)) I also thought then that I knew everything.)))


))) Bro, this is a very subtle point! Loneliness is the philosopher's stone.)) Loneliness is wisdom in its purest form.

I can simply explain to you why this is so.

When you are cut off from society, you think exclusively with your head. The longer you are alone.. the longer you think.. with your head..

And when you go out to people, you are amazed at what they are.. hmm.. you get me.))

Everything that you perceive and absorb, you absorb from society. You absorb what is accepted to absorb or what is available to you to absorb. You don't even have time to figure out what you are absorbing... And whether you need it or not!

Everything is imposed on you - this is your worldview or world awareness. Live for several years in another world.. you will completely change in your consciousness.



Thank you, Bro, it's very interesting to talk to you!
Thank you for understanding my point: we are on the same wavelength on this: reality of something happening infront of your eyes is always more true than what our mind allows us to understand. If it happens it happens, be it "impossible" or not.

But when it comes to our own life and how we create meaning out of the mess outside the Mind is king and will dominate any external factors. Im really glad to be of service to your situation, even if only in a small way. Let me finish some important stuff here and maybe i can find some more to write. Stay strong, if you can find a way to exercise or do something that gives you some feeling of control of something in your situation. I know i sound stupid cause i used to look down on all the gym stuff but lifting weights gave me a piece and a way to get equal with life when things wer hard. I hope you can find something to do the same, whatever it may be. But rest assured, its not you or the plants going crazy, what you see is true:)
 

Sedan

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if you can find a way to exercise or do something that gives you some feeling of control of something in your situation. I know i sound stupid
Why is it stupid... it's not stupid...

I do exercises and take a cold shower every day, both in winter and in summer)) for several decades now... when the war started, at first I didn't do anything, but then I came to my senses and continued... Today I did 140 pull-ups on the horizontal bar in the morning. Six sets of 20-25 reps. Everything is fine with that.)) If only I could eat normally... I can't eat normally))) Not because I can't, but because I have no appetite when I'm depressed. I've lost a lot of weight.))) But it doesn't bother me much now...

Thank you, Bro, for your support! I'll be glad to see you here again!!
 

Rocket Soul

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Why is it stupid... it's not stupid...

I do exercises and take a cold shower every day, both in winter and in summer)) for several decades now... when the war started, at first I didn't do anything, but then I came to my senses and continued... Today I did 140 pull-ups on the horizontal bar in the morning. Six sets of 20-25 reps. Everything is fine with that.)) If only I could eat normally... I can't eat normally))) Not because I can't, but because I have no appetite when I'm depressed. I've lost a lot of weight.))) But it doesn't bother me much now...

Thank you, Bro, for your support! I'll be glad to see you here again!!
Stupid: cause ive spent many years listening to gym bros saying "gym this, gym that, the gym is the best thing that ever happened to me" and i always thought "yeah right, just get a life gymbro".

And now i started and it really helped; but i sound like the guys that i was dissmissing before and i feel a bit stupid for that. But im glad i got a chance to change my mind.

20 pullups is really good and much better than me. I can see that you dont need any gym advice cause youre much more advanced than me. My pull up is... Embarrasingly low, lol

I didnt want to seem like one of these pushy gym guys but now i realize that you dont need those advice, youre already doing it. Much respect.
 

Sedan

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Stupid: cause ive spent many years listening to gym bros saying "gym this, gym that, the gym is the best thing that ever happened to me" and i always thought "yeah right, just get a life gymbro".
)))
no-no, Bro, no gym. You probably imagine an athlete who looks like an ancient Greek Olympian when he's about to throw a spear.))

damn, this is the first time I've learned that a Javelin is a spear)) I always thought it was an ATGM.)) The metaphor is very relevant.))

we've gotten distracted.. No, I'm skinny now... like a bicycle.)) If Hollywood were to make a movie about Auschwitz prisoners or Stalin's GULAG prisoners now, and they would cast me for the role of the prisoner who is tortured the most, they would take me without question, and they would also save on makeup, because... I don't need makeup.))

20 pullups is really good
This is for those who are not familiar with real sports.

I have been seriously involved in sports since I was 7 years old. I played football. No, not American football, where the main thing is strength, but soccer, where the main thing is speed, endurance and agility. Soccer and American football are different things, they have nothing in common. We call it rugby. American football is rugby adapted to the USA.

We got distracted... during my time playing sports, I acquired the corresponding skills. The main skill is the desire to win at all costs. This helps a lot in life later, even if you are not particularly strong. It becomes part of your lifestyle, as a habit.

But there are also downsides to this. I received a lot of serious injuries. Once, during a game, during a violent collision, I fell unsuccessfully and injured my back. Then I quickly recovered, but it turned out that I had developed osteochondrosis. You are a normal person, but sometimes your back is so sore that it hurts to move, like an electric shock. Anyone who has had back pain knows this.))

20 years+, and I am like an invalid.. massages and stuff.. it's all temporary. I couldn't cure it in any way..

You probably already understood what I'm getting at.))

I've been working out on the horizontal bar for probably 20 years now and doing push-ups from the floor with a sag (legs on a chair) on my fists. Bro, you won't believe it, I forgot about my back.)))) It's hard to find more healthy exercises..

A gym with iron.. it's the death of joints, especially at my age. I won't even mention osteochondrosis.)).. I wouldn't be able to get up after my first workout.))

Working with your own weight is health. If you want to pump up on the horizontal bar, you will also pump up. No, not as much as with iron, but not much less. But I never set myself such a task, it is necessary to work hard and eat.)) I was always thin, but dense, like a copper basin.))

In my youth I could do a maximum of 35 pull-ups at a time.. now I can't do that))).. it's a pity.)) 25 maximum.. 80 maximum from the floor at a time from a chair (60 cm) on my fists. But I'll soon be 50..

and much better than me.
The less weight, the easier it is to do pull-ups.)))

I didnt want to seem like one of these pushy gym guys but now i realize that you dont need those advice, youre already doing it. Much respect.
Thanks, Bro - it's not necessary.. I already have a guy like that.)) He's an old friend of mine.. from the time of my dark past in the 90s, when there was chaos in our country (everyone was waiting for democracy, but poverty and chaos came). A lot of young people were forced to engage in crime to feed themselves. This friend is from those times...

Now he's my business partner))), but I invite him home very rarely, only to pick up goods. I don't invite him because I feel uncomfortable talking to him. He got a certificate somewhere that releases him/, he freely travels around the city, enjoys life)), damn, he doesn't notice the war now.. he's constantly pulling me somewhere. Yes, he goes to the gym now, he has become simply huge.. I am standing with him.. a prisoner of Buchenwald.. imagine.. I am ashamed for some reason in front of him.)) His uncle is very rich.. he fled abroad after the beginning.. he left a huge house here, which was then partially bombed. This uncle asked my friend to take care of the house and guard it. Now he lives in a luxurious house for 1 million dollars. Bro, what could I have in common with him now?)) That's why I am alone...
 

Sedan

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Look, this is new project. I already showed you this room. There is pure OSRAM 1 lamp 300 Watt.

You will see how this light works

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Sedan

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Very interesting. I would like to see inside. Do you chill the nutrient water? How deep is the water inside the pipes?
This is the work of a friend of mine from ... censored. I've known him for years. He came to me with a funny box.)))) A few years have passed and you see the result.)))

No, I am not an expert in hydroponics. He was helped to set up the hydroponic system by another fellow from my club. You can watch it all online there.

I did the light setup, ventilation and equipment. Electronics and automation is done by George - you know him.

My club is a team effort. And I'm very glad you've joined us!
 

ttystikk

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This is the work of a friend of mine from ... censored. I've known him for years. He came to me with a funny box.)))) A few years have passed and you see the result.)))

No, I am not an expert in hydroponics. He was helped to set up the hydroponic system by another fellow from my club. You can watch it all online there.

I did the light setup, ventilation and equipment. Electronics and automation is done by George - you know him.

My club is a team effort. And I'm very glad you've joined us!
Well I like what I see. I've moved away from using air pumps and stones for aeration because of the noise and it was not as effective for me as just using a water pump to make waterfalls. However, I can see that they have an air stone under each plant. I'm curious if the nutrient water flows through those pipes and is circulated or just what's going on in there?
 

Sedan

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Are you saying he pumps the water around inside? Is the water deep? Is there an additional reservoir somewhere?
There's one pump, first it pours... for a while the solution into the pipes, then it drains back into a separate tank... etc.
 

Sedan

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Yeah, I get why you don't get it)))))) The tubes are thin. Yeah, they're old rocks he hasn't removed yet.
 

Sedan

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It didn't translate well.

Here you go.

there's a bullshit down there, it translated wrongly tides/tidal instead of that word read.

He wants to leave the rocks partially out for now while he tests the tides/flows.


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Sedan

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Damn it, it fell out of the sky 500 meters away yesterday. Ugh. It blew the windows open with a wave. Thank God the glass was intact this time.

But I hear you're having a hard time, too. The hurricanes are fierce.

My condolences to the victims! Let's hope that your government will allocate more funds for disaster relief and payments to the victims. For 750 you can only buy a 1X1m tent and a Samsung lamp and live there - it's ridiculous!
 

MissinThe90’sStrains

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You are fully immersed in this war, and every update is tainted with some more unfortunate news. It’s good that you are still safe and with us, somehow. It’s great that you managed another successful harvest. I don’t want your thread to be locked for political talk, but you are being misinformed, and spreading misinformation is dangerous.

The $750 you speak of is being given for *immediate* needs: such as food, medicine, and clothing. Insurance will cover the other larger expenses later. Damaged is still being assessed and these things are in process. Please don’t believe propaganda that only tells partial truths. There is much more to the complete story, and there is a lot of noise being made by a single political party here, trying to make the other look bad (while that same party just voted against giving federal aid, so that they can then turn around and blame the government for being ineffective). It’s a gross game being played, while people are suffering and dying.

Several state governors (many from the opposing political party) have come out and praised the government relief efforts so far from Biden and his team. There were also disaster appropriations declared before the hurricanes even hit, to prepare the responses. The only ones criticizing the response, are those intending to sew division instead of helping their fellow man in time of need.

We need to do better. Love thy neighbor, or some shit, right?
 
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