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[medidedicated]

Idk where to say this just gonna here. Anyway due for update on last comment its perking back up, was just smothered by light.

But in a dream increasingly becoming reality of full legalization I hope they allow good plant counts the best states allow 12. But I hope they factor in people that grow like me from what I learned.

To consider no flowering plants of small size to be not counted or allowed a good amount. Mother bonsais are like collectors items much more valueable then beans.

Its hard to make due with say 5 mothers youd hate to toss but need as many bigger plants that now cant add up. But in a perfect dream there would be no reason to worry lol.

 

[medidedicated]

ooo yea and perpetual reasons. Seems like a lot of plants but 4 mothers and 5 flowering 5 vegging boom youre already over. For the sake of creating rules people will gladly follow ya feel me lol otherwise in legal states people dont care its just a ticket but why even have tickets?

 

[Rocket Soul]

Idk where to say this just gonna here. Anyway due for update on last comment its perking back up, was just smothered by light.

But in a dream increasingly becoming reality of full legalization I hope they allow good plant counts the best states allow 12. But I hope they factor in people that grow like me from what I learned.

To consider no flowering plants of small size to be not counted or allowed a good amount. Mother bonsais are like collectors items much more valueable then beans.

Its hard to make due with say 5 mothers youd hate to toss but need as many bigger plants that now cant add up. But in a perfect dream there would be no reason to worry lol.

Have you ever looked into grafting? You can graft on a branch of one plant on a established mother, in order to draw clones from 2 (or more) genetics. Id probably do 2 mothers like this cause if one dies with all your cuts youd be devastated. I know this has been done with weed and very very extensively in agriculture for example wine. Graft the grapes of one wine onto the roots of another with pest resistance. Very tech but as far as i know its quite doable. Id get them under a cmh (for plant heath) with some serious blue supp for stretch control.

 

[medidedicated]

I already thought of it and its a good idea its just tougher. I can always replace a cut with another but if it dies then all 4 die. Its something to consider it just would make it easier if bonsai mums were simply not counted because you cant really do much with them being 6”x6” in a solo cup.

If to make it reasonable say just allow like 5-10 mothers or maybe even 12. Something generous.

 

[Rocket Soul]

I already thought of it and its a good idea its just tougher. I can always replace a cut with another but if it dies then all 4 die. Its something to consider it just would make it easier if bonsai mums were simply not counted because you cant really do much with them being 6”x6” in a solo cup.

If to make it reasonable say just allow like 5-10 mothers or maybe even 12. Something generous.

Then what your thinking about is tissue culture. Possible but fairly complicated and pricey. R

 

[medidedicated]

So far its just burnin it. Dimmed again to 50% which is just dumb. I could of just got another ts1000 though not rated for 3x3 its essentially only 3” short around the canopy but its not like its 0ppfd its plenty for outer buds to do their thing.

Then again its a noice light. I just dont have the situation that I need more light. Ive always gave them minimally suffecient lighting or dimmer.

 

[medidedicated]

Still at 50% starting bounce back and flower. Not happy with the light. Waste of $300 but I did just prevent myself from buying 600$ in something else thats turned out to not be needed. Critical thinking and what not.

 

[medidedicated]

Lmao I could and should try returning it you should if youre just not happy with it. I got $150 in these catch things that suck the gnats can crawl across the adhesive sometimes. Could get 470$ back.

 

[medidedicated]

I just am lazy dont feel like dealing with boxing which I dont have and etc just forget about it. Ive lost thousands in this with this kind of oversight. I just see people always want more light and have these rediculous lights that are always at 50 or 75% power let alone a newer grower like me.

From what I found can skimp on lighting quite a bit despite people swearing otherwise. I may never get to the point of rocking things out heavier than I am now which is under powered by 72w but thriving. Just give them enough light my plants will do great. Just a simple dude with a simple goal. I may never get perfect growth always some kind of burn, mold etc.

Never good enough for rediculous loads of light, I dont want any fatter colas their already molding.

 

[FmSwayze]

I just am lazy dont feel like dealing with boxing which I dont have and etc just forget about it. Ive lost thousands in this with this kind of oversight. I just see people always want more light and have these rediculous lights that are always at 50 or 75% power let alone a newer grower like me.

From what I found can skimp on lighting quite a bit despite people swearing otherwise. I may never get to the point of rocking things out heavier than I am now which is under powered by 72w but thriving. Just give them enough light my plants will do great. Just a simple dude with a simple goal. I may never get perfect growth always some kind of burn, mold etc.

Never good enough for rediculous loads of light, I dont want any fatter colas their already molding.

Box it up if you not happy.

 

[medidedicated]

It was like 24” high or more but yes on full blast but if the ppfd charts are right that shouldnt of been more than like 600-700ppfd maybe less so idk why that happened. I did start lower by that logic and my plants do fine going from 250 to 700ppfd with my mars hydro thats on max power.

 

[driver77]

Have you increased feed and water with higher light intensity?

 

[medidedicated]

Have you increased feed and water with higher light intensity?

Dtw coco 5x a day fed every 5 hrs 1.8ec if I drop ec they eat themselves I havent found a perfect spot its either deficient or overfed slightly. Used to be way too overfed but saw going from 8x a day fed to 5x the leafs are much lighter color

They look really great at the first 4-6 weeks Il give myself that but ya thats why this is weird especially that I started out with the same or lower ppfd. Maybe the spectrum or idk, its same led chips but they dont like it above 50%. Il say that the light is bright as hell its like a flash bang.

I have to look into the tent slowly to adjust to the brightness. My ts1000 isnt like that.

 

[medidedicated]

Its sleeping now but eatimating with tape measure and where plant roughly is its 2ft right now at 50% starting to bounce back so its even lower ppfd than my mars right now Id think. They max out at 900ppfd all around the tent so I started at about little over 2’ high on max which still shouldnt be 900ppfd should be much less, equal to my ts1000

 

[driver77]

What nutrients?

 

[medidedicated]

Maxibloom the tap water is .5ec high in calcium and magnesium in different forms but not the best per experienced grower that saw my water report. Lots of random contaminants to plants.

 

[driver77]

Have you tried a higher ec and calmag?
I run Jacks 321 at 2.2 ec and supplement calmag every now and then as needed. I got an inexpensive ro setup (RO buddie) after chasing deficiencies with tap.

 

[medidedicated]

My mars clones showing how happy they look vs the 3x3 forgot to add they have this soaked leaf look like its dehydrater over transpiration shit idk that word well. I just know they breathe and in a couple or few different ways. Idk shit lol how I got this far is beyond me. This just started with wanting to provide my own supplies.

Hopefully better times on the horizon.

 

[medidedicated]

Have you tried a higher ec and calmag?
I run Jacks 321 at 2.2 ec and supplement calmag every now and then as needed. I got an inexpensive ro setup (RO buddie) after chasing deficiencies with tap.

I tried adding calmg before it caused lock out though some things were different since then. Was using flora trio and ro water but never really flowered all the way so I cant count that as a grow. Its been suggested to use ro water but yea just winging it. I dont think its anything with feed at least not the first half of flower.

 

[medidedicated]

Shit I got a lot of botritus feeling more like tossing it its one thing to save it but found a few more nasty outbreaks of course the thick colas. I took it 9 wks so I demenstrated enough patients it had time to grow its just losing more than its ripening so screw it. Stress pistols probably guarenteed.

Its lower and lower in health and just fallin sick to it.