Fox Farm Hydro Nutes?
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Billy the Mountain
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So long as it's free of organics, it'll work fine in a DWC setup.
As a general rule, it's MUCH more economical to buy dry hydro nutes like MaxiBloom rather than liquid bottles (water's expensive to ship).
As a general rule, it's MUCH more economical to buy dry hydro nutes like MaxiBloom rather than liquid bottles (water's expensive to ship).
Agree 100% with @Billy the Mountain.
I grow in hydro and used Fox, switched to Botanicaire, and then went to a dry fertilizer. The biggest issue was that, regardless of the pretty pictures on the label, they all provide the same 16 (18?) chemicals to the plants and, second, it doesn't make a lot of sense to pay FedEx to schlep a gallon of water+tiny amounts of chemicals.
On that basis, I switched to Jack's 3-2-1 a couple of years ago and haven't looked back.
They sell a variety of different sized bags so you don't have to buy a Costco-sized bag. I bought 25 pounds of Part A and a 25 pound bag of Part B and store them in Home Depot buckets + air tight lids. I'm 68 years old and suspect that I now have enough ferts for the rest of my life.
My cost breakdown:
That's $1.18 for 28 gallons of nutrient solution.
Results - excellent but, to be blunt, the biggest variable in the growing equation is the grower's ability to not dick things up.
Feed plants lightly, give them as much light as they can tolerate, and LTFA and the results are amazing.
I grow in hydro and used Fox, switched to Botanicaire, and then went to a dry fertilizer. The biggest issue was that, regardless of the pretty pictures on the label, they all provide the same 16 (18?) chemicals to the plants and, second, it doesn't make a lot of sense to pay FedEx to schlep a gallon of water+tiny amounts of chemicals.
On that basis, I switched to Jack's 3-2-1 a couple of years ago and haven't looked back.
They sell a variety of different sized bags so you don't have to buy a Costco-sized bag. I bought 25 pounds of Part A and a 25 pound bag of Part B and store them in Home Depot buckets + air tight lids. I'm 68 years old and suspect that I now have enough ferts for the rest of my life.
My cost breakdown:
That's $1.18 for 28 gallons of nutrient solution.
Results - excellent but, to be blunt, the biggest variable in the growing equation is the grower's ability to not dick things up.
Feed plants lightly, give them as much light as they can tolerate, and LTFA and the results are amazing.
The varieties of brand nutes is limited where I’m from and will have to import most of the brands i see being used. The Fox Farm is easy to get. The Jack Classic is available here also will just have to check the NPK numbers. I will have a look around to see what dry nutes are available in the plant stores. In the past i have imported the Botanicare brand liquid nutes and it was a little costly
Delps8 do you use the Jacks 3-2-1 the whole time during Veg and Flowering stages.
Thanks for your advice gents.
Delps8 do you use the Jacks 3-2-1 the whole time during Veg and Flowering stages.
Thanks for your advice gents.
I use the standard formulation from "drop to chop". I have used a "bloom booster"' twice, once in my early grows (could have been Fox or Botanicare, I don't recall) and then again last year. In both cases, it was a total PITA and I won't do it again.
I've attached a couple of papers that have proved helpful to me and below are some links to a website run by a PhD chemist who is the author of HydroBuddy.
Nutrient availability and pH: Are those charts really accurate? – Science in Hydroponics
scienceinhydroponics.com
Building a model to predict EC in hydroponic nutrient solutions – Science in Hydroponics
scienceinhydroponics.com
The Hoaglands Solution for Hydroponic Cultivation – Science in Hydroponics
scienceinhydroponics.com
Understanding pH in Hydroponics – Part No.1 – Science in Hydroponics
scienceinhydroponics.com
Understanding pH in Hydroponics – Part No.2 – Science in Hydroponics
scienceinhydroponics.com
Crazy pH Swings – How Media and Bacteria Affect pH in Hydroponics – Science in Hydroponics
scienceinhydroponics.com
Hydroponic Nutrients… Why Solid is Better than Liquid – Science in Hydroponics
scienceinhydroponics.com
Nitrate, Ammonium and pH in hydroponics – Science in Hydroponics
scienceinhydroponics.com
Five common reason why you’re losing yields – Science in Hydroponics
scienceinhydroponics.com
Five important things you should know about humidity in hydroponics – Science in Hydroponics
scienceinhydroponics.com
Factors limiting the life of a recirculating hydroponic nutrient solution – Science in Hydroponics
scienceinhydroponics.com
In-depth books to learn about hydroponics at an advanced level – Science in Hydroponics
scienceinhydroponics.com
Keeping plants short: Why is it important? – Science in Hydroponics
scienceinhydroponics.com
Why TDS is NOT equal to Total Dissolved Solids in hydroponics – Science in Hydroponics
scienceinhydroponics.com
How to make your growing more systematic – Science in Hydroponics
scienceinhydroponics.com
Optimal air speed in a hydroponic crop – Science in Hydroponics
scienceinhydroponics.com
FAQ – Electrical Conductivity (EC) in Hydroponics – Science in Hydroponics
scienceinhydroponics.com
If you read the highlighted section in the Bugbee paper, it will shed some light on the limitations of using EC.
Do you have a pic of the Jacks 3-2-1 container?
I went shop today and didn’t see any Jack’s with those numbers. Just want to make sure I’m not overlooking it.
compassionateExotic
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Ok thanks bud.
There is no "3-2-1" container because "3-2-1" is the nickname for the ferts to use if you're using RO. If you're not using RO, you'll want a different formulation.
Check out the info at "what do I choose?" and it will step you through it.
Ok thanks will do.
I will be using rain water. The way our houses are built, each house has its own tank and rain water is caught on our roofs and directed into tanks built below houses.
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