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[budman111]

So much for that idea.

FWIW I have used the same scrog net for years, unless you get serious issues like bud rot then I cant see what threatening issues that it can cause.

 

[StareCase]

Yeah, if ya wanna be mobile with your plants a floater per plant is a good option. Very handy when your growing multiple strains with different ripening times. Also handy in case things need shuffled around for cleaning or a mold or big problem. Can't do that with a framed scrog. Lots more examples on my thread ...

Ah ... I see what you guys meant by a floater. But I don't think that a floater works in my set-up.

But you can move things around with a frame. With the wood trim, I was able to move the plant, bucket and frame as one unit. The branches woven through the taut twine provided enough strength to hold the frame in place while in transit. By this point in their lives, the stems are the diameter of a quarter so there is also good strength in the main stalk. I was fortunate to be able to remove the ladies from the tent on those couple of occasions that I needed to.

This lady is on her way from the VEG shelf to the bloom tent



The frames slid into the notch ( you can see the notch just above the frame ) to keep the frame in place. There was just enough gap to allow the screws to slide in easily. But as the wood began to distort, that sliding in and out became a bit tougher. This was why I was thinking of putting cup hooks on the inside as I redesign the frames.

So I am looking to replace the wood trim with the 3/4" PVC and move the screws/hooks that secure the twine from the top to the inside.

 

[Nugnewbie]

FWIW I have used the same scrog net for years, unless you get serious issues like bud rot then I cant see what threatening issues that it can cause.

But it smells like...., lol.

 

[Fatjoe]

Ah ... I see what you guys meant by a floater. But I don't think that a floater works in my set-up.

But you can move things around with a frame. With the wood trim, I was able to move the plant, bucket and frame as one unit. The branches woven through the taut twine provided enough strength to hold the frame in place while in transit. By this point in their lives, the stems are the diameter of a quarter so there is also good strength in the main stalk. I was fortunate to be able to remove the ladies from the tent on those couple of occasions that I needed to.

This lady is on her way from the VEG shelf to the bloom tent

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The frames slid into the notch ( you can see the notch just above the frame ) to keep the frame in place. There was just enough gap to allow the screws to slide in easily. But as the wood began to distort, that sliding in and out became a bit tougher. This was why I was thinking of putting cup hooks on the inside as I redesign the frames.

So I am looking to replace the wood trim with the 3/4" PVC and move the screws/hooks that secure the twine from the top to the inside.

I see what your saying. I just find it easier without the frame. Less weight, less bulk.


I also use smaller ones to train plants in veg stage.

I can fit 8 20x21 floaters in a 4x8 comfortably. Giving each plant its own 2x2 space. At times I'll run 3 12x12 floaters plants in a row making a run of 9 possible. With all 12x12 floaters I can run 12 easily.

Endgame....

I save time on when to flip them into flower. I just placed the floater and flip them. Train them under a few weeks then let them go. Easy scroggin.

 

[Fatjoe]

Soaked the old net in a bleach solution Monday, and hung it in my lungroom yesterday. I grow in SIPs, and was smelling something going bad and worried one of my reservoirs had become contaminated, creating the foul odor. Well, thankfully the reservoirs weren't the source of the smell, but the old, bleached, now dry netting was. Going to toss it and get a new one. It smells gross. So much for that idea.

Try a cut piece of metal fencing. It won't absorb odor and is easy to clean and reuse.

I use the wire with 2"x3" holes. Cut it to the size ya need and no need to replace nets again.

Another nice way to use the wire is to hang your harvest. I use the large floaters I use for flowering. Pop them off the top and tie on a hanger. I use colored hangers to I'd strains.

 

[Nugnewbie]

Try a cut piece of metal fencing. It won't absorb odor and is easy to clean and reuse.

I use the wire with 2"x3" holes. Cut it to the size ya need and no need to replace nets again.

Another nice way to use the wire is to hang your harvest. I use the large floaters I use for flowering. Pop them off the top and tie on a hanger. I use colored hangers to I'd strains.
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Yes, looks like it works for you to produce the results you want, creating a nice even canopy. I'll see if I can find some at the hardware store.

 

[Fatjoe]

Yes, looks like it works for you to produce the results you want, creating a nice even canopy. I'll see if I can find some at the hardware store.

It's just a small tweak of the scrog method and it works well for indoor growing so I just pass on the info. Maybe others will find it useful as well.

 

[Nugnewbie]

It's just a small tweak of the scrog method and it works well for indoor growing so I just pass on the info. Maybe others will find it useful as well.

Thank you for sharing.

 

[budman111]

But it smells like...., lol.

Ya would have been best to have used ISO for the sterilizing, handy for every grower to have.

 

[Nugnewbie]

Ya would have been best to have used ISO for the sterilizing, handy for every grower to have.

Never thought of that. Have lots, but it's gone. Figured bleach would sterilize. Oh well, thanks for weighing in.

 

[Growoolit]

I like the accessibility on the sides, is the Infinity cloudlab similar?

I think you will find most new 2025 tents to have side doors.
Some used, older tents may also possess this level of future-proofing. Ask first, if pictures are not sufficient.

 

[Growoolit]

I also use metal garden trellis here. It's galvanised and plastic covered for longevity.
4 inch squares, and fits a 5 x5 tent. Secured in the tent corners by bungee cords.

 

[coreywebster]

I have tried to read and search this thread, and other scrog threads to discover what more experienced growers say about re-using a scrog net of the stretchy type Secret Jardin and others sell.

After reading a bit I realized I don't have a great grasp as to properly do a scrog, but nonetheless have stretched these nets over previous grows, and am planning to do so again to if nothing else, open up my plants a bit more than I already have with training. So, I'll finally get to my question..., should I re-use this type of netting? If so, would it be wise to soak it in a light bleach solution to eliminate any possible spores, or pathogens that could be lurking in the material, or would that be unnecessary?

I've reused them plenty of times.

Though a rigid net is much better than those stretchy things.

But you could take off the hooks and put the net through the wash if you wanted.
I'd probably wash with detergent and then wash without.

 

[Nugnewbie]

I've reused them plenty of times.

Though a rigid net is much better than those stretchy things.

But you could take off the hooks and put the net through the wash if you wanted.
I'd probably wash with detergent and then wash without.

Yes, I probably could have tried washing it. I soaked it in a light bleach and detergent and hung it to dry. For some reason, it started to reek, so I tossed it. I bought a new one for this run.

In the future, I am not 100% sure what I will use. Some ideas, like metal, or metal covered in plastic seem ok, however, I'm wondering how much of a hassle these are at harvest if there are buds that have basically grown around, and tightly to this rigid mesh. With stretchy type, if need be in the past, I just cut it, so I'm not roughly handling buds, and not having to cut the plant into too many pieces, as I was trying to hang the whole plant for drying purposes. But, now I don't hang to dry anymore, as I built a Koolatron (https://www.rollitup.org/t/thermoelectric-wine-cooler-drying-and-curing-diy.1088980/). I chop and wet trim, and buck all the buds, placing them on mesh shelves. At any rate, I need to get a better grasp on training, and timing for the scrog itself. This run I did a good lollipop, placed the net, and flipped to 12-12. I've tucked a few times, and the plant is beginning to stretch, so I think I will stop tucking soon, so that the tops can grow above the netting some, and allow them to have some vertical height above the net so the buds have the ability to stack and become bigger colas. My first attempt at scrog I kept tucking and tucking, and it seemed like although I had a more even canopy height, the buds seemed smaller. No matter what, I will in all likelihood always scrog, as I feel a need to maximize yield. Fewer grows, less money spent on everything, but still being able to supply myself.

 

[FmSwayze]

Recovery shot after first net.

 

[FmSwayze]

I use both tie downs and net to train/manage my canopy.

 

[coreywebster]

Yes, I probably could have tried washing it. I soaked it in a light bleach and detergent and hung it to dry. For some reason, it started to reek, so I tossed it. I bought a new one for this run.

In the future, I am not 100% sure what I will use. Some ideas, like metal, or metal covered in plastic seem ok, however, I'm wondering how much of a hassle these are at harvest if there are buds that have basically grown around, and tightly to this rigid mesh. With stretchy type, if need be in the past, I just cut it, so I'm not roughly handling buds, and not having to cut the plant into too many pieces, as I was trying to hang the whole plant for drying purposes. But, now I don't hang to dry anymore, as I built a Koolatron (https://www.rollitup.org/t/thermoelectric-wine-cooler-drying-and-curing-diy.1088980/). I chop and wet trim, and buck all the buds, placing them on mesh shelves. At any rate, I need to get a better grasp on training, and timing for the scrog itself. This run I did a good lollipop, placed the net, and flipped to 12-12. I've tucked a few times, and the plant is beginning to stretch, so I think I will stop tucking soon, so that the tops can grow above the netting some, and allow them to have some vertical height above the net so the buds have the ability to stack and become bigger colas. My first attempt at scrog I kept tucking and tucking, and it seemed like although I had a more even canopy height, the buds seemed smaller. No matter what, I will in all likelihood always scrog, as I feel a need to maximize yield. Fewer grows, less money spent on everything, but still being able to supply myself.

Must of been a reaction between the elastic and the bleach.

I can't think what it is but something mixed with bleach create toxic gas , so I'd imagine it can react to certain products.

I tend to use the elastic nets when things need beating down and laying out, since timing ut when perpetual is tricky.

But I do like the rigid metal with plastic coating because you can built a screen per plant and have smaller grids, like 2-3" squares.

All the elastic ones seem to be 4" round here.

 

[Nugnewbie]

Must of been a reaction between the elastic and the bleach.

I can't think what it is but something mixed with bleach create toxic gas , so I'd imagine it can react to certain products.

I tend to use the elastic nets when things need beating down and laying out, since timing ut when perpetual is tricky.

But I do like the rigid metal with plastic coating because you can built a screen per plant and have smaller grids, like 2-3" squares.

All the elastic ones seem to be 4" round here.

Yes, made sure beforehand the detergent was safe to mix with bleach, and is a good point to raise.

"You should never mix bleach with detergents containing ammonia, acids, or hydrogen peroxide. Mixing bleach with these substances can create dangerous and even deadly toxic gases. "

I've been in veg way too long, had some problems that seem to have mostly been worked out, so I suppose "beating down and laying out" is applicable to what the netting will help with in my situation.