1st from Seed Grow (Cowboy Style)

[Londoner]

Quality mate! Cant wait to see the K-Train, im interested in that meself.

Plants lookin great Don, they should start filling in now, how far into 12/12 are they?


Any chance of some lights off or shots of the plants outside the growroom when you get the chance?

Why the fuck did i get -repped on this post??

"1st from seed grow (... 12-05-2008 12:36 AM Hey Londoner ! You suck balls like your crappy grows"

Obviously a hater with not much rep because it only took one point away

Sorry Don mate

 

[Fyfe]

thanks grade, just wish i had one of those universal remotes like click so i could fast forward till xmas...

i absoloutely love that film, my jaw gets cramp i laugh that much at it lol.

its not to long till xmas now mate patience is a virtue, or so people keep telling me

happy shmoking dude.

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

Quality mate! Cant wait to see the K-Train, im interested in that meself.
Plants lookin great Don, they should start filling in now, how far into 12/12 are they?
Any chance of some lights off or shots of the plants outside the growroom when you get the chance?

easy now! the girls are due on the 3rd for an exact 9 weeks but with them being bagseed it could be sooner or later??? they went 12/12 on the 8th nov.
i was kinda hoping they would be before xmas but ive pretty much given up on that. ill probs end up sneaking a bud or two off for xmas...

ill be moving things around in the tent probably sun/mon to accomodate the kush n moonshine so ill take a few snaps for ya then. the new additions are starting to branch nicely they have each 4-5 nodes should be ready to flip em monday hopefully.

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

i absoloutely love that film, my jaw gets cramp i laugh that much at it lol.

its not to long till xmas now mate patience is a virtue, or so people keep telling me

happy shmoking dude.

yeah im a big walken fan and sandler is hilarious but only in the ones he writes himself, you notice that? all the happy madison films waterboy/anger management/happy gilmore the other ones are hitty missy chuck n larry n 50 first dates

as for patience i have a small amount i was blessed more with will power hahaa

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

Why the fuck did i get -repped on this post??

"1st from seed grow (... 12-05-2008 12:36 AM Hey Londoner ! You suck balls like your crappy grows"

Obviously a hater with not much rep because it only took one point away

Sorry Don mate

?! someone with a chip on their shoulder the size of a king edward?! some friend of dickbane no doubt? we all know your grow is the dogs danglies.

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

reeet quick update as the gaffer has given me the shitty job of doing the
VAT returns

loadsa pics of them outside the box for ya london

i decided to veg the 3 babies a little longer. theyll be in the box thisweek sometime

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

anyone any ideas on whats turning the lower leaves yellow?? deficiency in nitrogen pottassium or zinc ????? thats all i can guess from the plant problem pics in the faQ

also im ready to chuck the other 3 new plants in but am a bit unsure how to arrange them i was going to put them on a table and have them on top next to the other 3 but then i thought about putting them in the middle of the big three?! any ideas welcome

 

[Londoner]

Lookin great mate, i can see the plants so much better when theyre not under the light

Yea id say the yellowing is N def for sure, fairly even yellowing across the leaves lower down the plant, what nutes you using mate? and what strengths?

Im always re-arranging my plants around my rooms, so the only advice i could give you would be to try n arrange your plants so they all recieve equal light intensities give or take a bit, i raise my smaller plants up on upturned pots to get them up higher, and i try and arrange them with the taller plants around the outside of the room, and the smaller ones in the middle directly under the light source, having larger plants in the middle can block light from smaller around the outside

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

cheeers london fella!

the nuts ive been using are nobby's naaah jus kiddin sorry im in a daft mood today i had a big pipe afore i left for graft... i started with bio bizz organic for veg and when i flipped em 12/12 i started witha bout a half strength dose of big bud and worked up but having said that i havent exactly been weighing it everytime i just use the end of a knife and do it by eye, i should probably start weighing it properly eh?! i started them with a 2/3 strength overdrive aswell last week so im lost as to why it should be missing N

as for the flower arranging hahahah i put the 3 new babies on a table and arranged the big plants round the side but its not exactly giving the best proprortionally to each, ill probably put em on upturned pots but theyll still be a good bit shorter than the others.

pics are the arrangement as is and the 3 new babbies


So rui wasnt letting me reply?!?! i went n had a deeks at nitrogen def and as far as i can telkl giving them a good helping of grow nutes is a good idea?!

 

[Londoner]

cheeers london fella!

the nuts ive been using are nobby's naaah jus kiddin sorry im in a daft mood today i had a big pipe afore i left for graft... i started with bio bizz organic for veg and when i flipped em 12/12 i started witha bout a half strength dose of big bud and worked up but having said that i havent exactly been weighing it everytime i just use the end of a knife and do it by eye, i should probably start weighing it properly eh?! i started them with a 2/3 strength overdrive aswell last week so im lost as to why it should be missing N

as for the flower arranging hahahah i put the 3 new babies on a table and arranged the big plants round the side but its not exactly giving the best proprortionally to each, ill probably put em on upturned pots but theyll still be a good bit shorter than the others.

pics are the arrangement as is and the 3 new babbies


So rui wasnt letting me reply?!?! i went n had a deeks at nitrogen def and as far as i can telkl giving them a good helping of grow nutes is a good idea?!

OK mate, i use bio bizz ferts too, but big bud and overdrive are booster additives mate, and they wont give the plants its required nutrition of N-P-K, bio bizz grow and bloom are designed to be used together ALL the way through flower, ideally you dont wanna be feeding in veg, instead re-potting into a bigger pot of fresh compo each time they root out the last pot, then i start off feeding 1ml grow and 1ml bloom per ltr around 2wks into 12/12 a few weeks after the last re-pot, and up the bloom as the plants get more into bloom and tell me they want more, without any base N-P-K ferts you will get def's for sure.

Yes mate, try giving 1-2ml b/bizz grow per ltr with each watering from now, if the yellowing still spreads, up it a bit more as you have no bloom fert

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

thanks man ill get cracking when i get in, so im looking at firing in the bio bizz grow and bloom( i think i may have some of this somewhere n have just not used it... if not i can get a bit easy enough ) and then the big bud and overdrive. cheers man hopefully its still early enough for the yellow lady to pick up and the other time enough to pack on some buds

ever sent buds in the royal mail?

cheers london youve saved my grow from myself a couple of times now! +rep ( it wont let me ah to fuck with the rep system anyway its gash)

 

[Londoner]

no worries about the rep man, i havnt sent buds in the post mate no, i have sent BHO in the post tho

Yea i use grow and bloom throughout the whole flowering stage mate, when you get both il link you to some good bio bizz feeding advice

I dont use any boosters or anything like big bud or overdrive, just BB grow n bloom and a little epsom salts, tho i am going to the growshop 2mo and im tempted to try something new.

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

my pal swears by a shedule that takes ten weeks: veg nutes 2 wks bloom nutes 2wks big bud 2wks hammerhead 2wks overdrive 2 wks then flush n i have to say his bud is pretty fine.

i guess they wont be checking xmas post too much. if you have a safe address to post to you might get a package from the don for your help

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

so when i got home last night one of the new plants added to the flower box has this weird mottled look on it like its been peppered with acid or some shit on the lower fan leaves?!?!?

i removed the small bench and stood them on pots in a different formation n the light seems a bit more balanced. i gave them a feed of biogrow and am away to the heed shop for the bloom additive this afternoon.

 

[Londoner]

Looks like it could be a bit of Mg def too mate, but dont worry bout it too much, its very common, i get it all the time, if its only just on those lower few leaves just keep an eye on it for now, if it starts to spread onto leaves any higher a dose or two of epsom salts (£1-£2 from any pharmacy) in thier water should sort it out.

Mg def's often show as a lightening or yellowing of the leaf tissue between the veins, leaving the veins still somewhat green before the whole leaf yellows, dies and drops off, this isnt a problem, but as the plant robs Mg from the lower leaves, patches of the leaves die and become necrotic and this is what i think your spots are, dying leaves from a slight Mg def causing necrotic spotting.

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

Looks like it could be a bit of Mg def too mate, but dont worry bout it too much, its very common, i get it all the time, if its only just on those lower few leaves just keep an eye on it for now, if it starts to spread onto leaves any higher a dose or two of epsom salts (£1-£2 from any pharmacy) in thier water should sort it out.

Mg def's often show as a lightening or yellowing of the leaf tissue between the veins, leaving the veins still somewhat green before the whole leaf yellows, dies and drops off, this isnt a problem, but as the plant robs Mg from the lower leaves, patches of the leaves die and become necrotic and this is what i think your spots are, dying leaves from a slight Mg def causing necrotic spotting.

Word up London! sounds exactly what it looks like fella cheers ill leave it till next week n see about some epsom salts if needs be then! weird how it happened over the space of like 6 hours of being introduced to 12/12?!

i got the bloom stuff n gave them a dose this morning and im chuffed to say all 3 of the new beans are showing an inch of root theyll be in pots the morrow, fuck im getting old im starting to look forward to saturdays at BnQ with the missus shocker...

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

quick update

new beans are doing fine tho one is strugglin to get out of its shell!

one of the hindu kush is showing balls but the mottling on the leaves has pretty much stopped in its tracks

the bagseed plants are giving it large in the bud area and the N/Mg deficiency seems on the wain! cheers lond!

one smells like juicy fruit one like petrol/fuel and the other is kinda spicy!!

(uploading photos seems to be out the window for now)

 

[Fyfe]

quick update

new beans are doing fine tho one is strugglin to get out of its shell!

one of the hindu kush is showing balls but the mottling on the leaves has pretty much stopped in its tracks

the bagseed plants are giving it large in the bud area and the N/Mg deficiency seems on the wain! cheers lond!

one smells like juicy fruit one like petrol/fuel and the other is kinda spicy!!

(uploading photos seems to be out the window for now)

looking good don, glad you ironed the deficiency probs out.

nice variance of smells you got there, got to be better than my citrus Cat piss saying that my smell is sweetening up a little now.

keep it up mate.

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

yeah i was surprised at the difference of smell between them. the mystery of bagseed eh

cheers for droppin in fyfe

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

sneak peak of an update cos im out of time at work more tomorrow.....