testoftime
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new ufo's have come out 3 generation which has an added light spectrum of orange. Look into it, read on general hypondics web site. Also found on e bay.
first closet grow with UFO
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gamebird65
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orange spectrum and yellow spectrum are all part of the hps lighting. maybe orange is the key to add for more dense buds? you got one of these orange spectrum leds?
winkdogg420
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HERE IS A QUOTE FROM THE UFO PEOPLE ! THEY ADMIT HAT GEN 1&2 SUCK THEY SHOULD OFFER A VERY AFFORDABLE UPGRADE KIT FOR PAST BUYERS OR THEY ARE BASICALLY ADMITTING THEY DIDNT DO THERE HOMEWORK AND SOLD A WHOLE SHIT LOAD OF SUB PAR LIGHTS. I DONT CARE EITHER WAY I JUST HOPE YOUR GROW GOES WELL AND YOUR MEDS ARE POTENT!!
WINKDOGG
"We discovered many things in the past 18 months in our engineering research:
WINKDOGG
"We discovered many things in the past 18 months in our engineering research:
- Other LED UFO’s provide the wrong spectrum for plant growth, the spectrums are “close” but not a match to those required for maximum photosynthesis.
- Other LED UFO’s were the same item, produced at the same Asian factory, just with different brand names.
- The marketing for these units was vastly different depending on the seller, but most sellers stretched the truth (to say the least) when advertising the results and the spectrums produced.
- The other LED UFO’s use of the wrong spectrums of LED was no accident; it was a cost saving measure. Buying the correct spectrum LED is much more expensive than buying an “off the shelf” LED used for traffic signals."
winkdogg420
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXleNpqV11c HERE IS THE FUTURE SULPHUR PLASMA CRAZY STATS ON THIS ONE!!!!!! 1000 LUMENS PER WATT APROX. IS THAT POSSIBLE !! I HAVE READ A BIT IT SEEMS A MAGNETRON(LIKE YOUR MICROWAVE) EXCITES SULPHUR AND ARGON WITH AMAZING RESULTS!
JUST A LIL INFO IM PUTTING TOGETHER A SULPHUR PLASMA THREAD SOON.
WINKDOGG
JUST A LIL INFO IM PUTTING TOGETHER A SULPHUR PLASMA THREAD SOON.
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Flo Grow
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I applaud you for even posting this grow for us to witness! Thank You! Everyone here IS interested in LED's and hope that someone comes up with the right equation, so that we can grow what we love with the best results, save money, and make it harder for Po-Po to find us!! HTG claims their 3G UFO works where other UFO's fail, but I don't see them posting an experiment for us to witness. High Times actually has an article that claims they conducted an experiment:
We've presented all the facts, but ultimately the answer to that can only be determined by you. In case you're still having trouble figuring it all out, here's a few more facts straight from the HIGH TIMES Cultivation Labs:
In three separate trials, a high-powered LED (prototypes of HID Hut's UFO) was run in side-by-side experiments-once against a 400-watt MH bulb, once against a 400-watt HPS bulb, and once against a 600-watt HPS bulb. These trials used exactly the same conditions on both sides of the fence. The plants were cuttings taken from a single mother; the medium and grow systems were the same; and the nutrients and atmospheric conditions were kept identical. The only variable was the lamp provided. And, as usual, the results varied.
In Trial A, the clones were placed in a three-by-six-foot box that was divided evenly in half. An ebb-and-flow table on each side shared the same grow medium and reservoir. In the end, the LED lamp yielded 12% more than its counterpart, the 400-watt MH.
In Trial B, similar systems again pitted the UFO against a 400-watt HPS, only this time the LED side took an extra week to finish. Some concern arose over stretching, as the clone grew to touch the UFO. This resulted in a decision to increase the blue diodes in a second prototype, and it may lead to an increase in wavelength for the red diodes, according to the manufacturer. In the end, the LED side yielded 5% less than the HPS side did.
However, it was reported in Trial B that there were markedly different potencies, with the LED plant producing much more resin. Speculation exists that the shortage of wavelengths aided in this process, as abnormal stresses have been known to increase the production of resin glands.
Final calculations taking into consideration the extra week of flowering time on the LED side found that in terms of grams yielded per kilowatt hour (KwH) consumed, the HPS yield was one-fourth that of the LED side.
In Trial C, the grower found similarities to both previous trials. While the LED yielded less than its counterpart, this test pushed the limits of the LED by pitting it against a stronger 600-watt HPS bulb. Resin production on this Cali-O strain was up after just four weeks of flowering, but in the end, the yield was around 20% less. However, the grower did note that the amount of money saved in electric costs compared against the costs of the 600-watt HPS was almost enough to offset the profits lost on yield. An interesting side note in this trial was that the plant on the LED side needed considerably less watering than the plant on the HPS side. It is possible that this is due to lower surface temperatures in the soil medium, or because the plant wasn't driven as hard and thus drank less.
Anyway you slice it, this one's a real mind-bender. Given the possibilities for vast improvements down the line, the LED revolution could very well be underway already. Will the LED Zeppelin (or the UFO) take off and change the world? For the present, things are certainly looking up.
This is all from the article. I believe we can trust High Times (to a certain degree) but I also think they are pumping up HID HUT too. The UFO beat the 400w MH, barely lost to the 400w HPS, and proved to be more potent and cost efficient than a 600w HPS, which makes up for the lost in yield. I would like to see them do a full monthly magazine dedicated to LED test and results with all stats and pics. They could get the various companies to submit their LED for the experiment, and the winner will surely see an increase in sales in their shit is legit.
Plant harvest talks......bullshit runs the marathon!!!
Stay Up LG !!!!
We've presented all the facts, but ultimately the answer to that can only be determined by you. In case you're still having trouble figuring it all out, here's a few more facts straight from the HIGH TIMES Cultivation Labs:
In three separate trials, a high-powered LED (prototypes of HID Hut's UFO) was run in side-by-side experiments-once against a 400-watt MH bulb, once against a 400-watt HPS bulb, and once against a 600-watt HPS bulb. These trials used exactly the same conditions on both sides of the fence. The plants were cuttings taken from a single mother; the medium and grow systems were the same; and the nutrients and atmospheric conditions were kept identical. The only variable was the lamp provided. And, as usual, the results varied.
In Trial A, the clones were placed in a three-by-six-foot box that was divided evenly in half. An ebb-and-flow table on each side shared the same grow medium and reservoir. In the end, the LED lamp yielded 12% more than its counterpart, the 400-watt MH.
In Trial B, similar systems again pitted the UFO against a 400-watt HPS, only this time the LED side took an extra week to finish. Some concern arose over stretching, as the clone grew to touch the UFO. This resulted in a decision to increase the blue diodes in a second prototype, and it may lead to an increase in wavelength for the red diodes, according to the manufacturer. In the end, the LED side yielded 5% less than the HPS side did.
However, it was reported in Trial B that there were markedly different potencies, with the LED plant producing much more resin. Speculation exists that the shortage of wavelengths aided in this process, as abnormal stresses have been known to increase the production of resin glands.
Final calculations taking into consideration the extra week of flowering time on the LED side found that in terms of grams yielded per kilowatt hour (KwH) consumed, the HPS yield was one-fourth that of the LED side.
In Trial C, the grower found similarities to both previous trials. While the LED yielded less than its counterpart, this test pushed the limits of the LED by pitting it against a stronger 600-watt HPS bulb. Resin production on this Cali-O strain was up after just four weeks of flowering, but in the end, the yield was around 20% less. However, the grower did note that the amount of money saved in electric costs compared against the costs of the 600-watt HPS was almost enough to offset the profits lost on yield. An interesting side note in this trial was that the plant on the LED side needed considerably less watering than the plant on the HPS side. It is possible that this is due to lower surface temperatures in the soil medium, or because the plant wasn't driven as hard and thus drank less.
Anyway you slice it, this one's a real mind-bender. Given the possibilities for vast improvements down the line, the LED revolution could very well be underway already. Will the LED Zeppelin (or the UFO) take off and change the world? For the present, things are certainly looking up.
This is all from the article. I believe we can trust High Times (to a certain degree) but I also think they are pumping up HID HUT too. The UFO beat the 400w MH, barely lost to the 400w HPS, and proved to be more potent and cost efficient than a 600w HPS, which makes up for the lost in yield. I would like to see them do a full monthly magazine dedicated to LED test and results with all stats and pics. They could get the various companies to submit their LED for the experiment, and the winner will surely see an increase in sales in their shit is legit.
Plant harvest talks......bullshit runs the marathon!!!
Stay Up LG !!!!
testoftime
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ufo led's are all hype I went to the store in melborne, fl and they are placing all kinds of stuff about ufo 3 g's on there ebay store, but I found it real funny they did not even have one in the store for display or even to sell. It is all selling hype. Maybe in the future but still not now.
OregonMeds
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ouch those buds are soooo tiny... (not to be a dick, just an obsevation)
I am glad this thread is going though, ignore the haters. We'd all like to see the results of whatever LED's people are using. I just wish people would stop bitching though, he already knows...They know people, now just leave them alone and lets see...
They may still end up not too bad on a gram per watt basis.
MisterMicro
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Damn, i might have to make a demotivational poster out of this. (not to be a dick)
littlegrower2004
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small update..closet at day 28 of flower..the camera i have sucks so all i got is two pics...the LED is doing great and isnt stretching the plants or watever most ppl thought...the buds under the LED are thicker and fuller then those closest to the HPS in closet..the first pic is of the main colas on the plant directly under the LED and the other is one of the GDP plants under the HPS..sorry there blurry cam phone..got about 20 plants in there all at dif times in flower from 28 days to 5 days...
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littlegrower2004
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o wait LED cant grow dank dense bud...??? this plants straight under the UFO since day one flower and is now at day 34. the 8 tops on this single plant are thicker and fuller than any of those closest to the HPS so IMO from actual use of the light is that they do wrk for flower and def is nothing like the youtube vid of a giant stretching low producing air bud plant..and still got another month for it fatten up..
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aladdin2685
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your plants look pretty healthy and have some decent medium size buds. i hope that the remaining month will fatten up the buds at least 50 percent more. im impressed. i wonder how many plants can you grow under that ufo to have all of them look like the above picture?
giantart
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Please show us proof of the spectral qualities. I am an electrical engineer and LED's are a type of laser light that does not have a kelvin temperature rating. I just think they are a sucker deal and if you'll notice, they are not selling on ebay. the stupid retailers that want to take advantage of newbies have now dropped thier prices to $29 dollars from $229 because of lack of sales. Come on people - LED's were never viable for our uses. It was just predatory retailers looking for the latest and greatest way to fuck people out of thier hard earned money. If newbies would listen to common sense and not try to find thier piece of pie in the sky every other minute, we could get rid of these people forever.
Smoke-on lifers! Life is good when you use your head~
Smoke-on lifers! Life is good when you use your head~
littlegrower2004
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wtf? im not sure i catch wat ur saying..my light wasnt off ebay, it was from HID Hut which is said in previous post. if u need any spectral qualities or watever the fuck u mean by that go to them and ask them. all i kno is i read a very creditible article in High Times that should the LED UFO and i bought one. since then ive had more arguements than anyone could think of why these things suck for growing and now that i show u proof that it is very possible to grow with them u still dont believe it
littlegrower im using led spotlights and they are working fine, just got my first pistols with bagseed , 3 plants 11 spotlight leds (13 watt each)
no stretch or whatever and ive stressed the fuck out of them getting my setupall put together (crushed them while setting up at 4th week of veg). But they are doing fine and im sure they are gonna get better
no stretch or whatever and ive stressed the fuck out of them getting my setupall put together (crushed them while setting up at 4th week of veg). But they are doing fine and im sure they are gonna get better
drbomber
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OK I know i have 0 post marks but , im doing a LED batch myself. No pics seeing as im a place that's really REALLY harsh on cultivation laws (looks it up and guess heres a clue.... where old ppl go to die). You just keep on keeping on bro. I was planning to switch my lightz at flowering time but if ur's proves to be succcessful i might flower one with my 4 pannels. ( Mines not a UFO but HI LED pannels 96 lights a per at 42 watts per pannel) LED's so far absolutely whoop ASS for vegging but flowering i dunno. Keep on posting bro im reading and watch
Gratz on ppl flaming on u out the wood work.
jsgrwn
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if you are running the hps in the same room as the led, there is absolutely no way to say that the hps has had no effect on the led plants. they are receiving this light as well as led. not a good way to do a legit experiment. who is to say that the plants right under the hps are not getting too hot and this is why the buds are smaller? and who is to say that the led has any impact at all? i have seen a straight led (ufo) grow, with less than average results. anyways, hope the bud is good either way. late.
littlegrower2004
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ok go back and read the beginning pages of this thread and ull c that i added the HPS for extra lighting and i knew it wasnt going to b strictly LED(if u wanna see a pure LED gro go to my other link which is the legit experiment) if the plants under the HPS were getting too hot they would show signs of stress which only one out the 15 is, but that one is much closer and higher to the light(actually past the light) so i expectd it would b showing signs of stress. i never said that the HPS has had no effect but i did say that its directly under the UFO making that its prime source of light(the plant is actually 3ft if not more from the HPS plus has the UFO above shadowing out the HPS) so obvious the LED has made the impact and not the HPS on this plant