Growing Plants Upside Down
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beginningbotanist420
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haha
BCtrippin
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How do I know weed is gravitropic? Instead of asking dumb questions why dont you look it up. Try GOOGLE..... Its not hard and you will learn something.
Like I said, side lighting works, but its side lighting, not underneath.
Why would you want to give light to the bottom of the leaves?
The concept behind ALL vetical grows never has pots more than 45* if not upright. If you find 1 vert grow with horizontal pots that feed from the side please post... All vert grows are still upright top fed plants.
You can't compare growing vert to growing a plant upside down.
If you dont believe me bend over 1 branch of an early flowering plant, tie it down about 5+ inches from the end and do it when the lights go out. Come back 2-3 hours later and you will see that it has curled back up... With No Light.
beginningbotanist420
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Give me a link to a reliable source that says cannabis is Geotropic or Gravitropic alone. I'm not arguing that this exists, but it occurs just as much as Phototropism.How do I know weed is gravitropic? Instead of asking dumb questions why dont you look it up. Try GOOGLE..... Its not hard and you will learn something.
Like I said, side lighting works, but its side lighting, not underneath.
Why would you want to give light to the bottom of the leaves?
The concept behind ALL vetical grows never has pots more than 45* if not upright. If you find 1 vert grow with horizontal pots that feed from the side please post... All vert grows are still upright top fed plants.
You can't compare growing vert to growing a plant upside down.
If you dont believe me bend over 1 branch of an early flowering plant, tie it down about 5+ inches from the end and do it when the lights go out. Come back 2-3 hours later and you will see that it has curled back up... With No Light.
BCtrippin
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Fan leafs are phototropic, thats why they reach for the light....the plant itself is gravitropic, this is why the stalks will curl up.
Research it yourself.
Hooker
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Oh and BCTrippin you are an asshole and should be banned from this forum... I give you a plus rep for givin me somethin good in a different thread and you give me a -rep for sayin I dont believe you that roots will grow out of the top of a plant... go fuck yourself man or at least just dont post on my threads and mind your own beeswax.
BCtrippin
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I should be banned? Im not the one resorting to childing name calling, Im not lashing out at other memebers over ridiculous things like rep. You need to humble yourself. I was being nice explaining what would happen to a gravitropic plant *IF* it could somehow be kept alive upside down. It would die pretty fast though.
You told me I was pulling Real information out of my *ahem* ass when I was trying to help you out. Maybe if you did a little resrearch for yourself you would know that there has been threads on this topic and that it wont work for marijuana.
Man I have been -repped for worse stuff then that...I have been -repped for "silly avatar", for posting a pic of my cat once, all kinds of petty crap.
I think you earned it. You told me I was making it up when you could have just done a little research for yourself.
Dont take it personally.
Hooker
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give me a source that says plants that grow upside down or that are LSTd towards the ground, grow warts and new roots out of the top of the plant, and I will apologize for having "offended you" so badly.
yeah lol cuz it really looks like you know wat you are talkin about...No You Can Not.
all the branches would flip over and stretch for the ceiling. The roots would start drooping towards the floor. And the part thats closest to the floor (the "top" of the plant) would develop big gross wart looking things that would try to pop out roots.....
give me a source that says plants that grow upside down or that are LSTd towards the ground, grow warts and new roots out of the top of the plant, and I will apologize for having "offended you" so badly.
BCtrippin
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yeah lol cuz it really looks like you know wat you are talkin about...
give me a source that says plants that grow upside down or that are LSTd towards the ground, grow warts and new roots out of the top of the plant, and I will apologize for having "offended you" so badly.
Again, maybe if you did a little research, find out what makes a plant gravitropic and it will be more clear. Its not my job to explain something to you when you can research it for yourself. Maybe you will learn something...
Just to be clear Im ONLY referring to a plant with the whole root structure and main stalk Upside Down.
Its not gonna happen to a plant thats LSTed down. Man look at my grow, I bend my tops over and they flip up to increase bud sites.
If you think you know it all and this is going to work, please try it out, I would love to see someone try this.
I didnt say you offended me....I just said your the one who is acting like a fool and your saying I should be banned...
nunof
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Lets clear some scientific air here guys.
Quote from http://www.costa-del-soerik.nl/1472.htm
Definition: Tropisms are a growth response involving a bending or curving of a plant response toward or away from an external stimulus. Bending toward the stimulus is a positive tropism, away is negative.
Phototropism
(diels alder) is caused by the uneven distribution of auxin in the plant stem. Auxin is produced in young expanding leaves and is then transported down the stem, cell to cell (not in the vasculature of the plant). Auxin produces elongation in young cells, causing the internodes to elongate as it passes to the roots. Light causes the transporters (Normally located on the lower side of the cell membranes) to move to the side of the cell furthest from the source of light. As auxins are transported away from the light, they cause uneven elongation in the stem. The 'dark' side of the stem ends up getting higher levels of auxin - and elongates more.
Geotropism
is what the plant uses to sense in what direction the force of gravity is pulling. Using this, a germinating seedling knows to grow the taproot downward, and the stalk upwards to the surface of the soil.
Gravitropism
(diels alder) in the stem is also controlled by an effect similar to Geotropism. A horizontal stem (illuminated or not) accumulates auxin in the lowest portion of the stem causing it to curve upwards as those cells expand. Gravitropism in roots is controlled by special starch containing plastids (chloroplasts are a type of plastid) called statoliths in special cells in the root tip. As said above, they settle in different parts of the cell depending on the direction of gravity. How the signal is transferred and the root curves is not yet known.
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Quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitropism
If the root cap is removed, root growth ceases to respond to gravity. The root cap is vital for gravitropism since it contains cells with sensors called statoliths, which are amyloplasts packed with starch.
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So class what have we learned today?
The simple fact is that the possibility of growing marijuana upside down is there. You will have to remove the root cap (tap root?) in order to undo the effects of gravitropism, this should allow you to do an upside down grow since it would deny the plant its ability to sense Auxin buildups from gravity. Now lets not kill each other over theory here; because to me, until it's proven it's still theory. Smoke up friends, be merry, and lets grow some.
BCtrippin - thanks for makin me think and research this......
Hooker - try it out and see what happens....the worst is you could kill the plant and loose out on some bud for a while.
Quote from http://www.costa-del-soerik.nl/1472.htm
Definition: Tropisms are a growth response involving a bending or curving of a plant response toward or away from an external stimulus. Bending toward the stimulus is a positive tropism, away is negative.
Phototropism
(diels alder) is caused by the uneven distribution of auxin in the plant stem. Auxin is produced in young expanding leaves and is then transported down the stem, cell to cell (not in the vasculature of the plant). Auxin produces elongation in young cells, causing the internodes to elongate as it passes to the roots. Light causes the transporters (Normally located on the lower side of the cell membranes) to move to the side of the cell furthest from the source of light. As auxins are transported away from the light, they cause uneven elongation in the stem. The 'dark' side of the stem ends up getting higher levels of auxin - and elongates more.
Geotropism
is what the plant uses to sense in what direction the force of gravity is pulling. Using this, a germinating seedling knows to grow the taproot downward, and the stalk upwards to the surface of the soil.
Gravitropism
(diels alder) in the stem is also controlled by an effect similar to Geotropism. A horizontal stem (illuminated or not) accumulates auxin in the lowest portion of the stem causing it to curve upwards as those cells expand. Gravitropism in roots is controlled by special starch containing plastids (chloroplasts are a type of plastid) called statoliths in special cells in the root tip. As said above, they settle in different parts of the cell depending on the direction of gravity. How the signal is transferred and the root curves is not yet known.
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Quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitropism
If the root cap is removed, root growth ceases to respond to gravity. The root cap is vital for gravitropism since it contains cells with sensors called statoliths, which are amyloplasts packed with starch.
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So class what have we learned today?
The simple fact is that the possibility of growing marijuana upside down is there. You will have to remove the root cap (tap root?) in order to undo the effects of gravitropism, this should allow you to do an upside down grow since it would deny the plant its ability to sense Auxin buildups from gravity. Now lets not kill each other over theory here; because to me, until it's proven it's still theory. Smoke up friends, be merry, and lets grow some.
BCtrippin - thanks for makin me think and research this......
Hooker - try it out and see what happens....the worst is you could kill the plant and loose out on some bud for a while.
BCtrippin
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Gravitropism
(diels alder) in the stem is also controlled by an effect similar to Geotropism. A horizontal stem (illuminated or not) accumulates auxin in the lowest portion of the stem causing it to curve upwards as those cells expand. Gravitropism in roots is controlled by special starch containing plastids (chloroplasts are a type of plastid) called statoliths in special cells in the root tip. As said above, they settle in different parts of the cell depending on the direction of gravity. How the signal is transferred and the root curves is not yet known.
Pulling it out of my ass eh?
Like I said in "simple terms" Starchy cells settle towards gravity.
See what happens if you do a little research for yourself, you Learn something new.
Its not possible. If it were possible, Clones would not be gravitropic because they have no original tap root.
Removing the taproot will kill the plant, or else you wont remove all of it and it will re-grow.
A horizontal stem (illuminated or not) accumulates auxin in the lowest portion of the stem causing it to curve upwards as those cells expand.
Nuff Said.
If you still think its gonna work, please try it. I would definitely love to see someone give it a shot.
(diels alder) in the stem is also controlled by an effect similar to Geotropism. A horizontal stem (illuminated or not) accumulates auxin in the lowest portion of the stem causing it to curve upwards as those cells expand. Gravitropism in roots is controlled by special starch containing plastids (chloroplasts are a type of plastid) called statoliths in special cells in the root tip. As said above, they settle in different parts of the cell depending on the direction of gravity. How the signal is transferred and the root curves is not yet known.
Pulling it out of my ass eh?
Like I said in "simple terms" Starchy cells settle towards gravity.
See what happens if you do a little research for yourself, you Learn something new.
Its not possible. If it were possible, Clones would not be gravitropic because they have no original tap root.
Removing the taproot will kill the plant, or else you wont remove all of it and it will re-grow.
A horizontal stem (illuminated or not) accumulates auxin in the lowest portion of the stem causing it to curve upwards as those cells expand.
Nuff Said.
If you still think its gonna work, please try it. I would definitely love to see someone give it a shot.
Hooker
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Mk sounds good thanks. I was actually planning on trying out your idea of LST training the plant down towards the light, because the point of this experiment would be to see if gravity causes the lowest buds to be more potent, providing that the light is also on the lower buds. I'll probalby end up trying both ways though... Thanks for doin some research though, I really dont have time with all my baby girls that I got to take care of. =] haha peace and happy tokin...