HotNSexyMILF
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My dear We... is that you? LOL.. The laundry list of links for the sheeple makes it pretty apparent it is.. LOL.. gosh I've been out of the loop, when did you come back around??
The Coming Economic Collapse... Fact or Fiction? You Decide!
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Microdizzey
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I saw someone say FEMA Death Camps, chuckled a little bit, then sobered up after seeing this bill:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645
To keep us safe and secure... right? They would never use these camps against us.
Apparently there are hundreds of military "camps" or "centers" all over the country already, so I guess this is what they mean by existing infrastructure.
Death camps? Probably not. Containment camps? Most definitely. Personally, I find mass containment areas dangerous for those who live in them. No matter how good and loving your government is. Being thrown into a cage like cattle is fucked up.
As for the economy. Lol... let's not be stupid anymore, ok? This isn't going to be fixed and stay the same. A new system is going to rise from this.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645
To keep us safe and secure... right? They would never use these camps against us.
It says "The purpose of a national emergency center shall be to use existing infrastructure"
Apparently there are hundreds of military "camps" or "centers" all over the country already, so I guess this is what they mean by existing infrastructure.
Death camps? Probably not. Containment camps? Most definitely. Personally, I find mass containment areas dangerous for those who live in them. No matter how good and loving your government is. Being thrown into a cage like cattle is fucked up.
As for the economy. Lol... let's not be stupid anymore, ok? This isn't going to be fixed and stay the same. A new system is going to rise from this.
HotNSexyMILF
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Work camps..
hom36rown
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how exactly did you extrapolate that they are confinement camps just from the portion you posted, I dont get it. Sounds normal to me.
misshestermoffitt
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they have crematoriums in them. Newly built ones........ There's one about 100 miles from me, this summer it's on my list of things to photograph, you guys just have to wait for the weather to warm up first though.
Tax cuts if you buy a new car, more tax breaks for the wealthy. I guess they aren't thinking of people who can't afford to plunk down 20 thousand for a vehicle in this economic climate.
Tax cuts if you buy a new car, more tax breaks for the wealthy. I guess they aren't thinking of people who can't afford to plunk down 20 thousand for a vehicle in this economic climate.
FLoJo
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for those non believers in the camps first of all look up info about the Rex 84 program, and sub programs operation cable splicer, and operation garden plot..
in short they were created under the thinking that if any huge domestic or foreign terrorist act occurred, or if there was a pouring in of illegal aliens, the government could round them up and put them into these camps, and hold them indefinitely if needed. they could use existing infrastructure to convert into the camps, and at the same time take control over state and local governments in the name of "national security".
operation garden plot is a little more precise in talking about any anti government dissenters, religious groups, militias, or any other groups creating "civil unrest" and gives the government the right to use deadly force and/or round them up as well.
then you can look at the various executive orders that have been put into law, specifically the 10990 through about 12000 which give the president the ability to declare governmental control over things such as, all transportation land air and sea, mass media and information sources (internet as well i would assume), natural resources such as, minerals, and petroleum, electricity, water, all food producers and farming operations etc.. it also allows the government to put citizens into work brigades, relocate populations, and a myriad of other constitutionally pressing issues, under the guise of national security.
then you go look most recently at the patriot act talking about what is considered domestic terrorism, and how you and i are domestic terrorists for even discussing this issue, and how any misdemeanor can be deemed a terrorist act.. and it shows just how easily all of these things could be meshed together giving us one very unhappy circumstance...
the key is to not look at just one bill, or one piece of legislation, but rather interlink all of the different issues in the bills.. sure there are some legit operations in there and uses, but there are also a few questionable ones in each set.. if you look at the chain reaction from one article to another, you can see that all of those little questionable uses of each bill can end up to be what would be considered a tyrannical dictatorship unrivaled by hitler, stalin, mao, or any other leader in the past..
FLo
in short they were created under the thinking that if any huge domestic or foreign terrorist act occurred, or if there was a pouring in of illegal aliens, the government could round them up and put them into these camps, and hold them indefinitely if needed. they could use existing infrastructure to convert into the camps, and at the same time take control over state and local governments in the name of "national security".
operation garden plot is a little more precise in talking about any anti government dissenters, religious groups, militias, or any other groups creating "civil unrest" and gives the government the right to use deadly force and/or round them up as well.
then you can look at the various executive orders that have been put into law, specifically the 10990 through about 12000 which give the president the ability to declare governmental control over things such as, all transportation land air and sea, mass media and information sources (internet as well i would assume), natural resources such as, minerals, and petroleum, electricity, water, all food producers and farming operations etc.. it also allows the government to put citizens into work brigades, relocate populations, and a myriad of other constitutionally pressing issues, under the guise of national security.
then you go look most recently at the patriot act talking about what is considered domestic terrorism, and how you and i are domestic terrorists for even discussing this issue, and how any misdemeanor can be deemed a terrorist act.. and it shows just how easily all of these things could be meshed together giving us one very unhappy circumstance...
the key is to not look at just one bill, or one piece of legislation, but rather interlink all of the different issues in the bills.. sure there are some legit operations in there and uses, but there are also a few questionable ones in each set.. if you look at the chain reaction from one article to another, you can see that all of those little questionable uses of each bill can end up to be what would be considered a tyrannical dictatorship unrivaled by hitler, stalin, mao, or any other leader in the past..
FLo
tipsgnob
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Something economist David Aschauer identified two decades ago: Private sector productivity and economic output (gross domestic product) increases in relation to non-military public spending. Remember President Bush’s recommendation that Americans go out and shop? He was onto something since our economy is driven by personal consumption.
Unfortunately, his record on jobs growth, at 2.3 percent during his eight years in office, is tied for the lowest on record since Harry Truman. Only his father’s and Gerald Ford’s records equaled his and all three favored tax cuts as their driver of economic expansion. They failed to realize when people don’t have full employment, they aren’t willing to consume.
History shows during their presidencies, economic growth averaged below 1.5 percent, disproving their tax-cuts-as-engine-of-economic-growth model. Average annual GDP growth during the Democratic presidencies from JFK onward exceeded 2.5 percent per year and each employed the Keynesian public spending model shunned by out-of-touch Republicans.
Unfortunately, his record on jobs growth, at 2.3 percent during his eight years in office, is tied for the lowest on record since Harry Truman. Only his father’s and Gerald Ford’s records equaled his and all three favored tax cuts as their driver of economic expansion. They failed to realize when people don’t have full employment, they aren’t willing to consume.
History shows during their presidencies, economic growth averaged below 1.5 percent, disproving their tax-cuts-as-engine-of-economic-growth model. Average annual GDP growth during the Democratic presidencies from JFK onward exceeded 2.5 percent per year and each employed the Keynesian public spending model shunned by out-of-touch Republicans.
HotNSexyMILF
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Great post Flo.. +Rep..
Simply put.. it could be a sticky situation.. don't let them round you up and take you anywhere.. and if they say it's for your own protection (like they did in Germany let me remind you..) be even more skeptical..
If they try to force anything on you (forced innoculations included) or drag you anywhere, don't go down without a fight.. plain and simple.. the government has already proven- they are no friend to the people..
Simply put.. it could be a sticky situation.. don't let them round you up and take you anywhere.. and if they say it's for your own protection (like they did in Germany let me remind you..) be even more skeptical..
If they try to force anything on you (forced innoculations included) or drag you anywhere, don't go down without a fight.. plain and simple.. the government has already proven- they are no friend to the people..
Johnnyorganic
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http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090204/OPINION02/90203058Deficit swelled under George W. Bush
To the Editor:
Marsha Blackburns column Feb. 1 shows how out of touch many Republicans in Congress are and why the Democratic Party swept into power with such an overwhelming majority (Spending as usual is no stimulus).
She rightly pointed out that federal spending jumped last year and the budget deficit swelled to a massive $1.2 trillion. What she left out is that $864 billion is due to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Were mired in Afghanistan, seven years after taking our eyes of the ball to start the war in Iraq that Marsha and fellow Republicans fully supported.
What Marsha fails to mention is something Economist David Aschauer identified two decades ago: Private sector productivity and economic output (gross domestic product) increases in relation to non-military public spending. Remember President Bushs recommendation that Americans go out and shop? He was onto something since our economy is driven by personal consumption.
Unfortunately, his record on jobs growth, at 2.3 percent during his eight years in office, is tied for the lowest on record since Harry Truman. Only his fathers and Gerald Fords records equaled his and all three favored tax cuts as their driver of economic expansion. They failed to realize when people dont have full employment, they arent willing to consume.
History shows during their presidencies, economic growth averaged below 1.5 percent, disproving their tax-cuts-as-engine-of-economic-growth model. Average annual GDP growth during the Democratic presidencies from JFK onward exceeded 2.5 percent per year and each employed the Keynesian public spending model shunned by out-of-touch Republicans.
Maura Satchell, SMYRNA 37167
FLoJo
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not to mention that in the first week of january the democrats tried to push a bill through congress which would allow the attorney general to have an all out ban on whatever semi-auto guns that he saw fit.. this is the first week of the new year before obama (dont forget he voted multiple times for all out bans on guns as well as wrote anti gun legislation himself) has even had a chance to get into office and start his glorious "change"... thank god america is seeing all out record gun sales despite the economy.. shows we do still have a pulse after all.
Johnnyorganic
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The weekend before the inauguration, I was visiting my folks who live in another state and I decided to go to a gun show there. I did not need another firearm. I merely intended to purchase a handgun to make a personal contribution to the Obama Effect.
Because I was out of state, I could not purchase the weapon on the spot, even though I had cash in hand. The process was involved, including: transfer to a licensed dealer in my state, a waiting period, and additional expense. I informed the seller he could keep his weapon.
The Gun Show Loophole libtards are constantly harping on is a misnomer.
I could not help but feel a little infringed.
HotNSexyMILF
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Yes.. H.R.45 certainly is a nightmare.. ugh..
Microdizzey
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Aww. But these new bills look so fair and good for the country. Making it nearly impossible to buy guns is the American way! Putting the people into camps when disaster strikes is a brilliant idea to keep us safe from those scary terrorists.
HotNSexyMILF
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Oh Dizzy.. what did I tell you about the kool aid?.. LOL..Aww. But these new bills look so fair and good for the country. Making it nearly impossible to buy guns is the American way! Putting the people into camps when disaster strikes is a brilliant idea to keep us safe from those scary terrorists.
misshestermoffitt
New Member
Phone lines to capitol have been jammed for 2 weeks now. People are pissed and unemployed and have plenty of time to make phone calls. One of the biggest complaints, "why are we paying taxes when our leaders aren't".
People are pissed off and I don't think they're going to settle down any time soon. It's working its way to a fever pitch.
People are pissed off and I don't think they're going to settle down any time soon. It's working its way to a fever pitch.
all governments gravitate to socialism.it is the natural evolution of government and the control of power..power is like crack to these people..they will steal your freedom for their power..and the ONLY WAY YOU ARE GOING TO GET IT BACK IS TO KILL THEM ALL...sorry to be so blunt..
FLoJo
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money corrupts.. power corrupts absolutely.
in our society, socialism is a byproduct of capitalism, and communism is a byproduct of socialism..
its not that every government gravitates to socialism, because that is not the case.. in any republic or democracy in the history of the world, from the roman republic, to present day, power becomes more and more centralized until eventually it turns into a dictatorship..
the scary part is that most of the time the dictators rise out of an economic, political, or social struggle... hitler, stalin, saddam, mao, etc.. and right now we are looking for a savior to pull us out of the struggle..
the legislation is there to allow it at the flick of the pen, the problem is that we have been programmed to be so obtuse that we cannot even see the nice little present being unwrapped in front of our faces..
in our society, socialism is a byproduct of capitalism, and communism is a byproduct of socialism..
its not that every government gravitates to socialism, because that is not the case.. in any republic or democracy in the history of the world, from the roman republic, to present day, power becomes more and more centralized until eventually it turns into a dictatorship..
the scary part is that most of the time the dictators rise out of an economic, political, or social struggle... hitler, stalin, saddam, mao, etc.. and right now we are looking for a savior to pull us out of the struggle..
the legislation is there to allow it at the flick of the pen, the problem is that we have been programmed to be so obtuse that we cannot even see the nice little present being unwrapped in front of our faces..