Earth is growing?

Kant

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Nobody has any real idea. There are just "theories". The thing with science is that you can't be 100% sure.

I do know that the earth is constantly creating "rocks" in underwater volcanoes and the fault line in the pacific. But there is land that gets swalloed up by the fault line, so it evens out.
ok it's english 101 time: today's lesson vocabulary.

1) Hypothesis - A tentative explanation for an observation, phenomenon, or scientific problem that can be tested by further investigation. example "apples are usually round."

2) Theory - A hypothesis that is supported by evidence (usually scientific observation) "apples are round. Look at this apple. it appears to be round."

3) Fact - A specific statement about some state of the world at a specific time. "that apple is red."
 

Tryingtomastrkush

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ok that's not entirely true. we have an extremely small amount of mass from meteorites and asteroids.
I wasn't talking about asteroids. I was talking about the matter that is on earth that originated on earth that will always be on earth. The same amount for ever until the earth explodes. What im saying is if we were to just start shooting rocks into space the exact same amount of matter will still exist just It was just moved. Even when the earth explodes there will still be the same amount of matter there was when the earth was created it is just spread out(that's assuming the blast isn't powerful enough to send matter into another dimension)
 

hom36rown

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Its actually (apparently) accelerating. It seems to contradict the know physics so thats when they came up with "dark matter" to help explain this phenomenon.




All the energy gets turned into mass. It is a small amount but it has to happen because M = E/C^2.

The same holds true with nuclear bombs except in reverse. Where the mass gets turned into energy, it only takes a tiny amount of mass to produce a huge amount of energy. Thats why the Sun will burn for so long.

But this energy gets absorbed and is converted back to mass. It is a science fact that energy can create mass, and this is an example of it.

How about this, when Your in the Sun You absorb vitamin D, that vitamin D is something which has weight even if its a tiny amount.

~PEACE~

:D
you do not absorb vitamin d, uv rays are neccesary for the production of vitamin d in the body.
 

We Love 1

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Well whatever the case, the Sun is still GIVING you something.

Mass and energy are the same thing except in two different forms. Sort of like how radio waves and light waves are both EM radiation but different frequencies.

Homegrown is always a critic.

~PEACE~

:grin:
 

fdd2blk

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See heres where you're wrong.
The earth has not lost or gained any matter from prehistory times. Its all still the same water and same rocks and same matter that was here before(not necessarily in the same form)
The earth is not a living organism. It is a planet. A non living things cannot gain or lose matter. It can only be broken and seperated but it will still be the same amount no matter what happens.
If what you're saying is true than if you put a rock in the sun it would grow.
once you can grow rocks hit me up :hug: :peace:
i'm hitting you up, ........

http://library.thinkquest.org/J002289/crystals.html

http://chemistry.about.com/od/growingcrystals/a/aa060704a.htm
 

hom36rown

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Energy doesnt just stay here. Its is a one way cycle. All energy that comes here eventually leaves, permanently.
 

Kant

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Well whatever the case, the Sun is still GIVING you something.

Mass and energy are the same thing except in two different forms. Sort of like how radio waves and light waves are both EM radiation but different frequencies.

Homegrown is always a critic.

~PEACE~

:grin:
yes, my point was not enough was toss by the sun for us to collect.
 

ANC

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We don't get Vit D from the sun man... we produce it in response to sunlight...
 

We Love 1

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Energy doesnt just stay here. Its is a one way cycle. All energy that comes here eventually leaves, permanently.
Are you sure you said that you went to engineering school? Maybe I have a bad recollection.

Ohh and your wrong!

yes, my point was not enough was toss by the sun for us to collect.
What?

There is plenty of solar radiation to collect. The Sun gives Us all the energy that We have (besides some geothermal energy and gravity).

Anytime anything happens on Earth its because of the Suns indirect or direct energy. ANYTHING, besides gravity and geothermal.

You guys don't know how much energy the Sun gives Us. If We could collect even a couple weeks worth than I'm sure that would give Us enough energy to power the worlds electricity for a year, or maybe more.

If We setup huge solar stations on the ocean We could convert the ocean water into hydrogen for fuel and end the oil monopoly. This of course would be free, renuable and a 100% clean energy source. It would also produce more oxygen into the atmosphere.

~PEACE~

:peace:
 

We Love 1

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lol, look it up bro. biology 101 right there.
Right where?

Feel free to share a link or two.

If your right than I'll never come on RIU again.

But its a simple fact that solar radiation gets absorbed by the earth, thats why its gets warmer in the day and why plants grow. On cloudy days more light get reflected by into space but some is still passing through. Fossile fuels are a good example of stored energy from the Sun. The Sun grew the plants which in turn became fossil fuel.

"Energy doesnt just stay here. Its is a one way cycle. All energy that comes here eventually leaves, permanently"

^^^If that is true than We would be as dead as a planet without a Sun. What would be the point of having a Sun if its energy doesn't just stay here.

~PEACE~

:peace:
 

hom36rown

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lol, you dont have to never come on RIU again...but its a true statement bro. I have my freshmen bio book right here and it says right here on page 7: "all energy that enters an ecosystem eventually flows out of it, mainly as heat." I'll try to find a link on the net for you
 

hom36rown

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The diagram above shows how both energy and inorganic nutrients flow through the ecosystem. We need to define some terminology first. Energy "flows" through the ecosystem in the form of carbon-carbon bonds. When respiration occurs, the carbon-carbon bonds are broken and the carbon is combined with oxygen to form carbon dioxide. This process releases the energy, which is either used by the organism (to move its muscles, digest food, excrete wastes, think, etc.) or the energy may be lost as heat. The dark arrows represent the movement of this energy. Note that all energy comes from the sun, and that the ultimate fate of all energy in ecosystems is to be lost as heat. Energy does not recycle!!

http://www.marietta.edu/~biol/102/ecosystem.html
 

We Love 1

New Member
I could agree with this statement

"SOME energy that enters an ecosystem eventually flows out of it, mainly as heat. "

Space is COLD COLD COLD and We are surely losing heat/energy to it. I could agree on that. But to say We are losing all of it doesn't seem like there would have been a point to it coming in the first place. Like I said the plants absorb the Suns energy and turn it into potential food. We eat the plants and extract the energy out of the food.

Edit- Ok I saw Your chart, but what about fossil fuels and things that store energy? But I guess EVENTUALLY is a long time.

The freezing vaccume of space is apparently going to consume the earth EVENTUALLY when the Sun fails, unless the Sun consumes Us in the process of becoming a "red giant" or w/e before it breaks down.

"lol, you dont have to never come on RIU again... " ok ;-)

~PEACE~

:D
 

hom36rown

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Dude, you cant argue with scientific fact. Yes, the plant absorbs energy and stores in the form of a bond. Eventually we break that bond and use it as energy to walk, think, breathe, whatever, also energy is lost in every single transformation of energy in the form of heat, meaning all energy eventually leaves the earth.
 

fdd2blk

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The diagram above shows how both energy and inorganic nutrients flow through the ecosystem. We need to define some terminology first. Energy "flows" through the ecosystem in the form of carbon-carbon bonds. When respiration occurs, the carbon-carbon bonds are broken and the carbon is combined with oxygen to form carbon dioxide. This process releases the energy, which is either used by the organism (to move its muscles, digest food, excrete wastes, think, etc.) or the energy may be lost as heat. The dark arrows represent the movement of this energy. Note that all energy comes from the sun, and that the ultimate fate of all energy in ecosystems is to be lost as heat. Energy does not recycle!!

http://www.marietta.edu/~biol/102/ecosystem.html

you busted out a diagram. lol :clap: :clap: :clap:
 

dannyking

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I thought the entire universe and everything in it was constantly expanding and being drawn into a central point,i could be wrong though,lol:shock:
The universe is indeed expanding. And many scientists believe the end of everything to be called the big rip. Sort of like the opposite of the big bang.
The moon actually moves 1 cm away from the earth per year.
 
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