Raidermans white russian grow

southern homegrower

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my room is 7foot 7 by 4 foot 7 and 7 ft. high. i am told i need a 1000 w hps so light will be able to reach bottom. want to grow large plants. would u give your opinion on the lights. i am new to inside growing.did very well when i grew outside.to scared to do that any moore.
 

raiderman

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my room is 7foot 7 by 4 foot 7 and 7 ft. high. i am told i need a 1000 w hps so light will be able to reach bottom. want to grow large plants. would u give your opinion on the lights. i am new to inside growing.did very well when i grew outside.to scared to do that any moore.
i like 600 watt air cooled lites.1000 wat has near double heat, and down here makes it harder. even if air cooled,,besides the 1000 lites are way over rated.600 cost the same or more, because thier the best way,easy air cooled tomaintain.mine . mine are going crazy now and i drop the lite at 6 inches and the temp at the canopy is 72F.closer is as good as vertical trust that .plus you may need some room to move around huh.this feminized blue cheese i see is the way to go, , i never had plants gettin this size so early , by the ebnd of the day they near doubled from this morning,, the 9-50-30 really did the job,,,, then we'll drop the magnesium levels and get some real purple in the las 2 weex, ,,,,, i see your a brother,lol.;-)
 

raiderman

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i like 600 watt air cooled lites.1000 wat has near double heat, and down here makes it harder. even if air cooled,,besides the 1000 lites are way over rated.600 cost the same or more, because thier the best way,easy air cooled tomaintain.mine . mine are going crazy now and i drop the lite at 6 inches and the temp at the canopy is 72F.closer is as good as vertical trust that .plus you may need some room to move around huh.this feminized blue cheese i see is the way to go, , i never had plants gettin this size so early , by the ebnd of the day they near doubled from this morning,, the 9-50-30 really did the job,,,, then we'll drop the magnesium levels and get some real purple in the las 2 weex, ,,,,, i see your a brother,lol.;-)
gonna do one more grow here, then i'm buying 4 more lites and a super vortex fan for all 6 lites-i been having my grow on ,was jus trying to get the most possible wothout puting to much out there before i feel like i am well eqiped. i am gonna do blue cheese big buddah.now i'm trippin howall these plants are gonna jam in here .. everything is in its own 8 inch sqare container.. i cannot believe jus how much they grew ritwe after yesterdays feeding, phospherous at 50 really bitch slapped them ,lol.including the sugar daddy, i dont know wat to think... pics sunday,, then weekly.sunday pics.a pound in here will definately be the least,,, besides i'd be ashamed if all igot out of each plant was an oz,lol....1.5 to 2oz. each,lookin good,very excited...doing 15 bb skunk nex and 20 big buddah BC seeds also nex,, then that will get me out of here.not cloning no more till i get out here and relocated , waste of time.....cntnd
 

southern homegrower

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i like 600 watt air cooled lites.1000 wat has near double heat, and down here makes it harder. even if air cooled,,besides the 1000 lites are way over rated.600 cost the same or more, because thier the best way,easy air cooled tomaintain.mine . mine are going crazy now and i drop the lite at 6 inches and the temp at the canopy is 72F.closer is as good as vertical trust that .plus you may need some room to move around huh.this feminized blue cheese i see is the way to go, , i never had plants gettin this size so early , by the ebnd of the day they near doubled from this morning,, the 9-50-30 really did the job,,,, then we'll drop the magnesium levels and get some real purple in the las 2 weex, ,,,,, i see your a brother,lol.;-)
so do u think i would need 2 600s? should they be run on 110 or 240 v. i ask u because them thar buds ur growing sweet looking,fat,dense all a man could want.
 

raiderman

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in florida
texas her,,lol.Damn made some coffee this morning and accidenly used my diluted beastie bloomz jug, it was dark,fuk..i got a 110 on one..pretty strong , could easily cool two lits,low noise,, the 240s sounds loud i think.Dicount hydro is where i go.. i dont show my face at hydro stores.
 

southern homegrower

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1 moore ? then i wont bother u atleast for a few days. i have 1 inch styrofoam on walls and cealing and have a ac vent in the room should i cover vent if i use co2. i keep my ac at 70 degrees during day and 68 at night. no one can give me a answer.
 

raiderman

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1 moore ? then i wont bother u atleast for a few days. i have 1 inch styrofoam on walls and cealing and have a ac vent in the room should i cover vent if i use co2. i keep my ac at 70 degrees during day and 68 at night. no one can give me a answer.
maybe i can .if your gonna use co2 you need to use a timer to shut off the regulator every 30 minutes, depleted co2 has to be vented out ,then replenished, then ypour vent fans need a timer to,, otherwise your gonna waste co2 goin out the vent.. personally you can get excellent co2 from outside through the AC. it is always sucking it out through the front ventinhales it and rids it), bringing new in from the main cool.toooo much trouble for me..if you would post on the other Wite russian grow i wood appreciate it , in the bottm there, jus clik on it .,,this one has been dead awile,lol.never feel like you cant ask me anything..i'm posting sunday, warm up the nikon and do some pics at mid flowering .. i amdoing 30 plants 2-600s 16 2gal.containers and 14 3.5 gal. buckets .. 2 lites goin for up to 3 pounds . got near 2 las, didnt even max the area out,lol.hop on.this is my 23rd grow.
 

drugstorecowboy

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maybe i can .if your gonna use co2 you need to use a timer to shut off the regulator every 30 minutes, depleted co2 has to be vented out ,then replenished, then ypour vent fans need a timer to,, otherwise your gonna waste co2 goin out the vent.. personally you can get excellent co2 from outside through the AC. it is always sucking it out through the front ventinhales it and rids it), bringing new in from the main cool.toooo much trouble for me..if you would post on the other Wite russian grow i wood appreciate it ,,this one has been dead awile,lol.never feel like you cant ask me anything..i'm posting sunday, warm up the nikon and do some pics at mid flowering .. i amdoing 30 plants 2-600s 16 2gal.containers and 14 3.5 gal. buckets .. 2 lites goin for up to 3 pounds . got near 2 las, didnt even max the area out,lol.hop on.this is my 23rd grow.
Southern- You may want to think about setting up multiple 600 digi balasts instead of 1k's. I have had both in the past and I am currently switching to all 600's. Basicly you get only 10-15 thousand lumens less by using 400 watts less on consumption. That is a huige difference. Sure, 2 600's cost more than 1 1k but if you decided to do 2 1k lights, you could instead do 3 600's and would have many more lumens even though you are at a lower wattage. I have used 40 watts per square foot on my 600's and I have used 50 watts per sq ft on 1k's and noticed no difference in yield watsoever.

Raider- Sounds like you are going to be kicking it up a notch after this grow! I just got some Elite Genetics OG and Chem mixes so I may have to add some more space just for them, hehe
 

raiderman

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Southern- You may want to think about setting up multiple 600 digi balasts instead of 1k's. I have had both in the past and I am currently switching to all 600's. Basicly you get only 10-15 thousand lumens less by using 400 watts less on consumption. That is a huige difference. Sure, 2 600's cost more than 1 1k but if you decided to do 2 1k lights, you could instead do 3 600's and would have many more lumens even though you are at a lower wattage. I have used 40 watts per square foot on my 600's and I have used 50 watts per sq ft on 1k's and noticed no difference in yield watsoever.

Raider- Sounds like you are going to be kicking it up a notch after this grow! I just got some Elite Genetics OG and Chem mixes so I may have to add some more space just for them, hehe
o.fk .i'm sorry your already hear,lol.
 

raiderman

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Southern- You may want to think about setting up multiple 600 digi balasts instead of 1k's. I have had both in the past and I am currently switching to all 600's. Basicly you get only 10-15 thousand lumens less by using 400 watts less on consumption. That is a huige difference. Sure, 2 600's cost more than 1 1k but if you decided to do 2 1k lights, you could instead do 3 600's and would have many more lumens even though you are at a lower wattage. I have used 40 watts per square foot on my 600's and I have used 50 watts per sq ft on 1k's and noticed no difference in yield watsoever.

Raider- Sounds like you are going to be kicking it up a notch after this grow! I just got some Elite Genetics OG and Chem mixes so I may have to add some more space just for them, hehe
only in america,lolol.yea ,gotta get away from my crazy dad .. hes 71,, now i know wy old ppl live alone,lol.....doing one more,lol funny got a good friend that want s to finance me and aplace watnot,, thanx but no thanx... i ride alone on this trolly.also upgrading to hortilux bulbs is 5,000 more lumens i think...600s go three ft down solid growth,, and can keep at 6 to 10 inche at near room temp,, aircooled lites that is...
 

southern homegrower

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Southern- You may want to think about setting up multiple 600 digi balasts instead of 1k's. I have had both in the past and I am currently switching to all 600's. Basicly you get only 10-15 thousand lumens less by using 400 watts less on consumption. That is a huige difference. Sure, 2 600's cost more than 1 1k but if you decided to do 2 1k lights, you could instead do 3 600's and would have many more lumens even though you are at a lower wattage. I have used 40 watts per square foot on my 600's and I have used 50 watts per sq ft on 1k's and noticed no difference in yield watsoever.

Raider- Sounds like you are going to be kicking it up a notch after this grow! I just got some Elite Genetics OG and Chem mixes so I may have to add some more space just for them, hehe
i would only need 2 600s for my space right. raiderman is this the other wr grow it looks the same
 

raiderman

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i would only need 2 600s for my space right. raiderman is this the other wr grow it looks the same
lolol,it is ,my bad,damn i'm losing it today.old man pissin me off today here at the house,lololol.i'm a seed buying fool mysef . like a fruit stand,lol.say DSC gotta chk out this feminised blue cheese ,lots BB pheno coming out , no hermies, consistant plants.. this my strain.. that and the BB skunk i ordered.floer at 4inches 70 to 75 day strain.:fire:
 

southern homegrower

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lolol,it is ,my bad,damn i'm losing it today.old man pissin me off today here at the house,lololol.i'm a seed buying fool mysef . like a fruit stand,lol.say DSC gotta chk out this feminised blue cheese ,lots BB pheno coming out , no hermies, consistant plants.. this my strain.. that and the BB skunk i ordered.floer at 4inches 70 to 75 day strain.:fire:
i understand my dad is geting up there to
 

southern homegrower

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maybe i can .if your gonna use co2 you need to use a timer to shut off the regulator every 30 minutes, depleted co2 has to be vented out ,then replenished, then ypour vent fans need a timer to,, otherwise your gonna waste co2 goin out the vent.. personally you can get excellent co2 from outside through the AC. it is always sucking it out through the front ventinhales it and rids it), bringing new in from the main cool.toooo much trouble for me..if you would post on the other Wite russian grow i wood appreciate it , in the bottm there, jus clik on it .,,this one has been dead awile,lol.never feel like you cant ask me anything..i'm posting sunday, warm up the nikon and do some pics at mid flowering .. i amdoing 30 plants 2-600s 16 2gal.containers and 14 3.5 gal. buckets .. 2 lites goin for up to 3 pounds . got near 2 las, didnt even max the area out,lol.hop on.this is my 23rd grow.
so u think i could get dense buds with no co2. just useing my central ac? thanks man that would be much easyier
 

raiderman

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so u think i could get dense buds with no co2. just useing my central ac? thanks man that would be much easyier
also it was brot to my attention that unless your doing a 100plants or more,its a waste of time..also i nenver had loose buds,,under a 600 ,lol. the 600s are definately under rated,.
 

Mcgician

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.also upgrading to hortilux bulbs is 5,000 more lumens i think...600s go three ft down solid growth,, and can keep at 6 to 10 inche at near room temp,, aircooled lites that is...
I've never used 600s, but during the summer I've been awfully tempted to. 1000's definitely put out the light, but without Co2 keeping the room cool enough has always been a challenge, even with a dedicated A/C system. I used two 8 foot light rails for 2 1000 HPS lights over a dozen plants. I would've liked to just run the lights at night, but where I used grow there were occasionally helicopters flying around, and I decided not to take any chances. The layout I had consisted of 4, 4 foot rockwool slabs with 3 plants per slab. System drained into the middle and into the resevoir.

My question is, would I be better off with 3 or 4 stationary 600's instead of the two 1000's on rails?
 

raiderman

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I've never used 600s, but during the summer I've been awfully tempted to. 1000's definitely put out the light, but without Co2 keeping the room cool enough has always been a challenge, even with a dedicated A/C system. I used two 8 foot light rails for 2 1000 HPS lights over a dozen plants. I would've liked to just run the lights at night, but where I used grow there were occasionally helicopters flying around, and I decided not to take any chances. The layout I had consisted of 4, 4 foot rockwool slabs with 3 plants per slab. System drained into the middle and into the resevoir.

My question is, would I be better off with 3 or 4 stationary 600's instead of the two 1000's on rails?
i saw a lite mover on rail,is that wa t you mean,on dicount hydro.com ,,. would think though a stationary lite over sec. wood be better,but dont know.mover wood cover more area at 10 inches avove midflowering plants,,wat do you think?
 

raiderman

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i saw a lite mover on rail,is that wa t you mean,on dicount hydro.com ,,. would think though a stationary lite over sec. wood be better,but dont know.mover wood cover more area at 10 inches avove midflowering plants,,wat do you think?
hers the new glass and heres my breakfast plus near 300 grams of protein a day,,lol human growth hormones,lol.o'wellllll.lol.getting pussy has never been a problem.lol,
 

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