Hey Jesse...
Sorry I haven't been around much, but with me starting to move about a little better, I find myself wanting more and more to be doing stuff...
That combined with the fact that the Sun is back, days are getting longer... PROBABLY no more 30 below, not until November anyways... makes for a Gypsy that wants to be outside a lot...
It has been really really nice here this last week... sunny, highs in the 20's... almost t-shirt weather, I actually wore short pants to town yesterday... in the Sun it felt like a million degrees...lol.... so nice....
And the body like the Sun too... heck... everyone has been under 6" of coats and in the dark for the last 6 months...
Anyways...
I will try to be direct but not an asshole... but it is waaay to early and I woke up with pain.. so bear with me and my "old man on the porch shooting rock salt at everyone that walks by" attitude....
Ok people I have uploaded a ton of pics for your enjoyment. All you have to do is refer to the file name of the pic for a description of it. For instance, I have one pic called "plant #1 top." So, obviously, that means it is a top view of plant #1.
Thanks for posting Jesse... It's refreshing to see other people's ops...
Flower Room
Just for a reminder...Plants 1 and 2 are the big girls that got the most light during veg and are about 50 days into flower or so, give or take. Plants 3 and 4 both are smaller because they didnt get much light. Plant #3 is all stretched to fuck, and plant #4 has gone hermie! But I want to keep her (him?) because this phenotype has the most crystals and the best smelling nugs! So if I get a few seeds, so be it. What are your guys' opinions about that?
How much longer does it look like I have to you? The gnat problem is still here. I think the Go Gnats pissed off my plants. Either that or I gave them too much Clearex, or they have a P or K deficiency. I am not sure what. Anyone wanna hazard a guess? Anyway, the gnats are managable.
I am thinking I have about another month or so. But not sure really at all. Gimmie some feedback and if you have questions hit me up!
You have a microscope, right?!?!?!
Check and harvest when the trichs start to turn amber...
You know the schpeal right? milky (imature bud) will give you a lighter brainy stone... while the amber trichs (mature bud) will give more of a narcotic high.. the proverbial couch lock...
Go with that, it's science.. there is no guessing... in time you will learn what the buds look like when they are done... but you must have a solid starting point to base your knowledge from, and the micrscope is just that...
Big plants, little plants, shade, stretch...
Sorry Jesse... I am not very happy with your arrangement there...
It's not as bad as I have seen on here, but you have created quite the "shade farm"...
Everyone like BIG BUSHES... but in my opinion, they are no very easy to manage....
a SCROG is the best way for big girls indoors, but that is also a lot of work and almost an art form... experience is required success... or luck will work too...
May I suggest doing single cola lollipops..?
They do not shade each other nearly as bad... and because they are shorter, they are dense nugs top to bottom...
I would flower those seedlings and trim them Al B. Fuct style... my last 12/12 from seed gave me 3/4 oz per plant.. BEAUTIFUL PHAT NUGZ...
But it is just my opinion...
It makes me cringe... you have 800+ watts in your op and you got this much plant matter in the shade...
But I must say that those buds do look tasty...
Jesse I hope you realize I am just hittting you where I think there is room for improvement...
You have a good grow going and my intention is not to knock you down AT ALL...
I am just poking you a bit so we can make all of our grows even better than they are...
as for the hermie... I would kill that plant ASAP...
If pollen gets in your grow room, chances are you will have seeds forever....
Polle gets everywhere, that is how it does it's job... it stays viable for a long time.. and it will pollinate your females, that IS it's job...
Get rid of it in my opinion... or be ready to thoroughly sterelize your op...
Big nono in my book... but there are folks out there that grow for the seeds.. so I can imagine my opinion is just one in an infinite sea of opinions...
Veg Room
So, I included shots of the new seedlings! They were planted on 2/25 and most of them sprouted the next day, but they were all up by 2/27. So they are a couple weeks old, give or take a day.
They dry out really fast. I have a bitch of a time keeping the humidity anywhere about 45%. That, combined with that fact that I have 24/0 light, small cups (thus little water retention) has caused some of the leaves to turn really brittle and crumble. Anyone have advice or thoughts on this?
I am getting some PHENOMENAL root growth though! The rootzone and humic acid and such in the Light Warrior has really paid off, combined with letting the little ones dry out in between waterings. Since the cups are clear, I can see everything! Check it out! I am also getting some green residue on the inside of the cups. I think this is good fungus or something, but I am not sure. Anyone know what it might be? Its really lush green color.
Algae... oh boy... if you give moisture and light... shit will grow man... sometimes I don't even know what's growing, but our Planet Earth is an amazing place... a little warmth, light and water and ho and behold... there is GREEN SHIT EVERYWHERE....
I blame the clear cups...
Since I am doing hydro (my soil days were in unattended fields, I was there 2 times.. planting and harvesting) I won't be much help...
BUT IF YOU SWITCHED TO EBB/FLOW, you could just add a bit of H2O2 or Hygrozyme to your res.... They would break down all that stuff into elements that the plants can use.. and they are both great pathogen controllers IN HYDRO... don't even know how you would use it on soil...
Was the hint there subtle enough...?
If you go with ebb/flow, you can get away with going in your op once week.. though I like to make sure my pumps are oumoing daily...
It is truly the lazy stoner's best friend... cheap to build too...
Oh and did I mention that I think you should flower the seedlings NOW and trim them Al B. Fuct style????
Hit me up if you need more info on the trim job..
Random
Just for fun, I posted some pics of all my nutes. You can barely see the Clearex in the top right corner. Check out the root zone people, its great. I believe it can replace hugely expensive things like Taratula and Perahna (spelling). But, you be the judge. It's only $20 a bottle as compared to the others....great buy for me!
WOW...
I have no idea what most of that stuff is... but it looks fancy enough... lol...
I use almost nothing compared to you...
I also included a pic of the giant 2700K CFL in action, mounted next to a 23 watter for a side-by-side. These things are sweet. So, I now have a total of 823 actual watts of 2700K CFL going in the flower room. Crazy shit huh?
How do you cool 800 watts of CFLs??? it's got to be a freaking nightmare...
I only have 207 actual watts of 6500K CFL for the veg room. BUT, check this out...I ran into a Craiglist posting and this guy has TONS of CHEAP HID lighting! He is selling 150 watt metal halide ballasts and sockets for $25 and $30 for 250 watters! He is local and all the stuff is originally from construction sites I believe, but this could be great!!! I meet with him tomorrow!
We need to get you to realize that you will be wasting a lot of money over the next couple of years...
DON'T....
listen to me .. please....
If you believe you will continue growing for at least 3 or 4 more grows... and I believe we ALL are... get the right tools for the job...
I am serious Jesse... look at my progression...I started in a hotel room with a stck Aerogarden... and before I realized what I trying to get across to you, I upgraded ventilation and lighting a bunch of times... wasting a bunch of money....
Once I realized what was going on, I decided to STOP FUCKING AROUND...
I built the tent, and yes I have overgrown it, but every piece of equipment I bought for the tent is applicable to my current, and bigger op....
I didn't know I was going to go bigger, but I knew that if I decidedto, I didn't want to upgrade AGAIN....
Dude.. I recomend you buy the end all... the last piece you will ever need...
buy a big fan.. a big light.. set it up properly and it will pay for itself 10 fold in a few grows...
I recommend what I am using...
H.O. T-5s for veging and air cooled 600 HPS for flowering...
Less power than you are using now and better results guaranteed...
Way easier to control the temps... way denser nugs, and with ebb/flow, bigger and faster yet...
WELL GIMMIE SOME LOVE PEOPLE!!!! :LEAF::LEAF::LEAF::LEAF:
You are doing AWSOME Jesse...
I hope you get where I am coming from with all my opinions...
You deserve kudos and +rep everyday... you are doing a gret job.!!!
Ok the green stuff is bad its alge . I dont know how to fix it other than just transplanting . Wrap the cups in foilif no light gets in no alge can grow
now for the hermie... I say keep it ! Im not to much of a weed snob that seeds bother me i get weed with seeds all the time.. People say og kush is clone only strain but i would love some seeds from a ogkush herm the seeds do cut down on bud weight but i dont mind that either1
and the craigs list is the hook-up thats how i scored all my hps setups! 2x400watt hps complete and 2xmh400s and a 250hps for $200.00 i didnt need all the stuff but he made me buy a package...its all used stuff like you said from construction sites/remodeling/demolition but i have tested it all now i just gotta re-build the room!
Oh yea i found these at the thrift store
(pictures)$50BUX EACH!! AND THEY HAD TWO BOLTED TOGETHER AS A PAIR I MIGHT TRY TO GRAB THAT ONE IF THEY DONT CHARGE ME DOUBLE
Here is a classic example of different attitudes...
I would never allow male flowers in my op, unless I was breeding...
And Wink... I would stay away from those ballasts... I know buying the right equpment is more expensive, but believe me, you are growing gold... it will pay for the equipment.. FAST...
Buying cheap, used stuff is like asking for nightmares before going to bed...
I like new... and they still fail sometimes...
damn jesse you got alot of power there !
i run about 700 total for veg and flower
i had a heater in my room the past 2 months ... 1500w that turns on and off
raised my bill like 80$ each month.
its off now ... even though its still kinda cold
I just hope you guys are being safe with all those bulbs and wiring...
I have almost started a fire because of me being a dumbass and thinking some not ok would be ok...
Yeah I learned a valuable lesson though...
Don't waste all your money on CFL's! I have spent at least 3 or 400 bucks. Too much.
I wish I had your problem! My temps are too high and my humidity is too low!!
Don't waste you money... PERIOD...
You need a 600 HPS with a cooltube and a dedicated 4" 170 CFM centrifugal fan to cool it.. draw in fresh, ouside air... and dump it outside your op, away form your intake and completely independent from your op's airmass...
Then we need to get you a tray or two and get you going in a direction that leaves no room for guessing... you follow the recipe exactly and get the appropriate results EVERTIME...
Gotta say that LOW RH is a good thing in the flower room..
word, theres only 2 42w 2700k CFLs that i wasted money on cuz im not using them .... but i wish i had got a 600 hps .... oh well i might add those 2 42 cfls to flowering
One thing that a lot of people don't realize, is the fact that budget grow ops have put out sime of the most expensive bud on the planet...
I get just over a pound from a 600 HPS... I am getting closer and closer to the 1g/1w mark...
Grams per Watt... might as well be grams per dollar burned....
Once the equipment is paid off (first grow and you should have a chunk of change), you have some basic costs...
Electricity being the biggest...
Think about it...
The only way to get cheap buds is to make your op as efficient as possible... and that is not in comaprison to what your op is today... that is in comparison to IDEAL/PERFECT conditions...
Figure out your g/w ratio and do some math... you will see that it makes prefect sense to buck up and get the right shit THE FIRST TIME...
That way you can be proud of smoking your good herb knowing that it actually cost you less than buying it from street...
Budget grows put out expensive nugs... proper ops put out better buds at a lower cost...
OK who wants to argue now???? lol...
I am just kidding...
ALL THIS IS JUST MY NEWB OPINION...
in the end, you should ALWAYS GO WITH WHAT YOU KNOW....
that way, only you can be blamed....
Cheers and best of luck...
I'll swing back by later...
