Is Oprah the Anti-Crist?

[SweatyC]

Particle physics . . . . what a great mysterious science. The smaller the particles the more mysterious. The new theory based on E=MC2 is that all matter is in fact a condensed form of energy. So much empty space . . . . the ghost particle is the neutrino. Almost undetectable because it passes through "solid" matter. Energy= Mass x Speed of light squared

Very simple yet profound equation, all things only exist relative to other things . . . .

Don't forget the anti-neutrino too! Yeah, E=mc2 is a very love/hate equation for me....but mostly love....

 

[SweatyC]

atoms are made up of smaller particles so they can't be the "building blocks" of the universe. Every time we look further we find something else. Consciousness is the basic foundation of the Universe not atoms.

Perhaps for personal perception...in a viseral humanistic sense....I guess. But I think he was talking about tangible science and you're referring to spirituality...saying consciousness is basic foundation of the universe is kind of like saying Oprah is the Anti-Christ...sounds intriguing but just has no substantial meaning to those of us who don't need an answer, (or at least don't think we're the reason for the existence of the universe), for our own existential comfort. Not saying you're wrong, I just think it's a subjective ideology, and you shouldn't claim your postulations so factual.

 

[NewGrowth]

Perhaps for personal perception...in a viseral humanistic sense....I guess. But I think he was talking about tangible science and you're referring to spirituality...saying consciousness is basic foundation of the universe is kind of like saying Oprah is the Anti-Christ...sounds intriguing but just has no substantial meaning to those of us who don't need an answer, (or at least don't think we're the reason for the existence of the universe), for our own existential comfort. Not saying you're wrong, I just think it's a subjective ideology, and you shouldn't claim your postulations so factual.

Well said, subjective ideology is a good way to describe it. Have you seen the holographic universe theory?

My belief is similar to Bob's that consciousness is a necessary factor for ANYTHING to exist. I think it goes back to the sound of a tree falling in the woods with no one around. We in no way directly experience our surroundings we only see our brains interpretation of electrical signals. Therefor it seems only logical that consciousness must be absolute and inherent to the universe.

I also base this on my personal experience.

 

[bobharvey]

I haven't "studied" a lot of quantem physics but I have read a little bit. I'm pretty sure they are arriving to the conclusion that the observer directly affects the experiment. Which means that consciousness, or at least the act of observing changes what will happen.

I have been thinking about this for sometime now.

Idk if this is how it works or not but light is a particle and a wave right?

Well when tripping on psilocybin you can see shit just fall. For example I watched my dresser, not melt, but for those of you who have experienced psilocybin you know what i mean. Now if consciousness, normal consciousness is what is responsible for holding light into position, then maybe its the psilocybin that inhibits this somehow and allows you to see light as it really is...a wave.

Maybe ...idk

 

[NewGrowth]

I haven't "studied" a lot of quantem physics but I have read a little bit. I'm pretty sure they are arriving to the conclusion that the observer directly affects the experiment. Which means that consciousness, or at least the act of observing changes what will happen.

I have been thinking about this for sometime now.

Idk if this is how it works or not but light is a particle and a wave right?

Well when tripping on psilocybin you can see shit just fall. For example I watched my dresser, not melt, but for those of you who have experienced psilocybin you know what i mean. Now if consciousness, normal consciousness is what is responsible for holding light into position, then maybe its the psilocybin that inhibits this somehow and allows you to see light as it really is...a wave.

Maybe ...idk

That really frustrated Einstein, the observer really does effect the outcome of the experiment. Cool stuff.

Here is a small tribute to our friend Psilocybin

 

[Brazko]

I haven't "studied" a lot of quantem physics but I have read a little bit. I'm pretty sure they are arriving to the conclusion that the observer directly affects the experiment. Which means that consciousness, or at least the act of observing changes what will happen.

I have been thinking about this for sometime now.

Idk if this is how it works or not but light is a particle and a wave right?

Well when tripping on psilocybin you can see shit just fall. For example I watched my dresser, not melt, but for those of you who have experienced psilocybin you know what i mean. Now if consciousness, normal consciousness is what is responsible for holding light into position, then maybe its the psilocybin that inhibits this somehow and allows you to see light as it really is...a wave.

Maybe ...idk

In regards to that, I didn't want to touch it, I believe Sweat C stated it has no mass, I fall on the side of it having Mass....but that is still debated today as well,.................btw this is some good shit guys, I've been busy all day looking up stuff.......

 

[Chief Pipe]

Is Oprah the anti-christ ?




Why of course not, but is no doubt in the service of some evil entity just as Pat Robertson and Dick Cheney.

Anti-Christ ?

No such critter to be found along my path. Sounds like one of those Semitic Deities/devils which originated in the Middle-East and so very far away from the land of my people.

 

[bobharvey]

That really frustrated Einstein, the observer really does effect the outcome of the experiment. Cool stuff.

Here is a small tribute to our friend Psilocybin

Think about it. If observing an experiment changes the outcome then what is the point of looking for a basic unit (or building block) of the universe by smashing atoms. I'm pretty sure that is what they are doing at CERN. If they expect to find something...then they will lol.

I'm gonna order a syringe of Penis Envy. I hear the flushes aren't huge but the shroom itself is...so I plan on tripping my balls off in about 2-3 months haha.

 

[SweatyC]

In regards to that, I didn't want to touch it, I believe Sweat C stated it has no mass, I fall on the side of it having Mass....but that is still debated today as well,.................btw this is some good shit guys, I've been busy all day looking up stuff.......

Nope, no mass. There's not any debate among REAL scientists on this. I've heard a few quacks with no real scientific background try to allege that light has mass.......some people. You might be getting confused with the fact that light is energy, and in fact, mass is 'essentially' energy. In fact, through nuclear reactions like pair production, a photon can become a positron and electron which both obviously have mass. But again, there are no real plausible theories of light having mass. Glad to see that you're taking an interest in this stuff!

 

[Brazko]

Nope, no mass. There's not any debate among REAL scientists on this. I've heard a few quacks with no real scientific background try to allege that light has mass.......some people. You might be getting confused with the fact that light is energy, and in fact, mass is 'essentially' energy. In fact, through nuclear reactions like pair production, a photon can become a positron and electron which both obviously have mass. But again, there are no real plausible theories of light having mass. Glad to see that you're taking an interest in this stuff!

indeed it is bro, you haven't done your research if you are able to say that with such gleaming conviction......along with those plausible theories that are backed up with the equations.....I personally had a conversation with a very Reputable Physicist......who felt the same way only because it is impossible to measure with our technology, but stated as some theories and equations have been put forth, if it was possible to trap and contain the light, that it is possible that it would indeed add Mass to that empty space........it's just all about how you wish to follow the information, and it's not just an interest, well it's my life you see......

 

[SweatyC]

indeed it is bro, you haven't done your research if you are able to say that with such gleaming conviction......along with those plausible theories that are backed up with the equations.....I personally had a conversation with a very Reputable Physicist......who felt the same way only because it is impossible to measure with our technology, but stated as some theories and equations have been put forth, if it was possible to trap and contain the light, that it is possible that it would indeed add Mass to that empty space........it's just all about how you wish to follow the information, and it's not just an interest, well it's my life you see......

Yeah, science is extremely ambiguous. Everything can be considered as theoretical. I suppose I do say things like that with little conviction simply because it makes sense and it works. I mean, seriously....physics is the study of getting as close as you can....not perfect.....and so is the physicists vs. mathematicians debacle. I suppose it's still up for question....as with all theories, but for now 'no mass' is the accepted and practiced theory. I've spent a good part of my life studying Nuclear Physics and have gotten the opportunity to work and speak with some very brilliant people, from nuclear engineers, to physicists, mathematicians, and even astronomers.....and not once has any of them supported the theory of light having mass. Just my two cents.

 

[Brazko]

Yeah, science is extremely ambiguous. Everything can be considered as theoretical. I suppose I do say things like that with little conviction simply because it makes sense and it works. I mean, seriously....physics is the study of getting as close as you can....not perfect.....and so is the physicists vs. mathematicians debacle. I suppose it's still up for question....as with all theories, but for now 'no mass' is the accepted and practiced theory. I've spent a good part of my life studying Nuclear Physics and have gotten the opportunity to work and speak with some very brilliant people, from nuclear engineers, to physicists, mathematicians, and even astronomers.....and not once has any of them supported the theory of light having mass. Just my two cents.

All said very true, and very much of what I'm trying to express.....a scientist, physiciist, mathematicians, etc.... all operate in a realm of equations, if it can't be figured it doesn't exist......If every person on this planet witnessed an extraordinary event, if no information was gathered or left from the event, it would be explained with an equational fact of what probably did happen and that would be the only credible explanation, period, no matter who, or how many people witnessed it, in their world it didn't happen, because that is what the nature of their business resolves around..........this stance, no matter how sane it seems, is illogical..... it is stagnant and limits progressive understanding (religion also)......so I just simply don't limit myself to thinking science or anything else separately is the bearer of all truth, it's just another tool for observing what already exists.......to look back on our history is all that is needed to understand this.........


So what came first, the Chicken or the Egg


What came first, the Event or the Equation


.....think I said that right, there's my loose change too,

 

[CrackerJax]

The egg came first.

The event came first.

Anything else?

Class dismissed.
out.

 

[Brazko]

The egg came first.

The event came first.

Anything else?

Class dismissed.
out.

Thanks 4 Agreeing, the Chicken is just the equational after thought.......

 

[iloveit]

For those who are interested d/load a internet documentary called "The Arrivals" it explains alot on the Anti Christ & what is hidden in regards to the topic.

 

[CrackerJax]

Thanks 4 Agreeing, the Chicken is just the equational after thought.......

The animal which laid the egg was not quite a chicken. A successful mutation within the egg produced the first chicken. Evolution as always.... The egg (chicken) came first.

 

[yandi1]

oprah is the antichrist!! na she seems like a decent old bird haha. Either way u look at it eveyone's beleifs aside sees and end coming even in science there has to be and end do u think there will be another begining :s sorry bout the spelling! i need to go back to school haha

 

[Brazko]

oprah is the antichrist!! na she seems like a decent old bird haha. Either way u look at it eveyone's beleifs aside sees and end coming even in science there has to be and end do u think there will be another begining :s sorry bout the spelling! i need to go back to school haha

Life & Death...Beginning & End, Exists and is only Perception of Time.....In the beginning (scientifically speaking) time space & yada yada did not exist..So the only beginning & ending I see is Rest/Stillness...This must have been present at the beginning...So meditate and you will find the answer to your new beginning in stillness...Peace be still

 

[CrackerJax]

Heh, don't worry, one day you will be very very still.

 

[Brazko]

Heh, don't worry, one day you will be very very still.

Wowwwww, typical CJ, your so profound...its no worries KuPoodre', Trapp my body, can't trap my Mind, guess who's on lockdown