250w HPS Club And Help Guide

Burnzy

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hey guys, can i ask a question about cfl lighting? After the temps rose a bit around here from winter i can't support the heat issue with my 250w hps untill i move out of here so i'm forced to go with cfl's. If you don't want to answer cfl questions or can't then let me know and i wont post it. Figured i'd ask before i look like a d-bag asking in a hps club lol. Thanks guys.
 

Burnzy

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alright well i was going to go with

http://www.htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=51101

but wasnt sure if i should get something bigger than the 25 watters.
I'd be getting the 2700k's for bloom because i'll be growing lowryders hopefully all the time.
I have 4 g13's growing right now but i think they are just so screwed up from the light being turned off by other people because its been way to hot, that they are probably gonna be males/hermies.
 

zechbro

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burnzy try going with a air cooled hood there really easy to make and the keep your temps nice and low as they suck all the heat from the bulb away and vent it out the side of the box, it mean a extra fan and some extra ductingand some glass but its well worth it yield wise over haveing to use cfls
 

Burnzy

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burnzy try going with a air cooled hood there really easy to make and the keep your temps nice and low as they suck all the heat from the bulb away and vent it out the side of the box, it mean a extra fan and some extra ductingand some glass but its well worth it yield wise over haveing to use cfls
Yeah i know brotha but its hard to explain the situation. I can't run ducting out to anywhere, and i've been told i need to use cooler running lights. Basically, i have to go with cfl's untill i move in a couple years.
 

Doobieus

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Yeah i know brotha but its hard to explain the situation. I can't run ducting out to anywhere, and i've been told i need to use cooler running lights. Basically, i have to go with cfl's untill i move in a couple years.
CFL's are going to be just as hot if not hotter depending on your room. My 8 CFL's for veg got way hotter than my HPS or T5's, I can't imagine bloom spectrum CFL's would be any less hot.

If you can save like 100-200 bucks you can buy a portable AC window unit. 7,000 BTU's will cool down a mid size room basically.


:leaf:5,200 BTU window ac unit from walmart 108$:leaf:

Something like that would work well, if you want to go cheaper....


:leaf:Portable evaportive cooling unit:leaf:

Now with the cheaper unit there are some downfalls. The first is that if you live in a really humid climate then the evaporative cooler is probably not going to work very well. Also you have to refill it with ice or really cold water for it to work.

These both are options if you can save some cash.

I hope this helps some Burnzy.

 

Wretched420

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I totally agree with Wretched on this one, and that's pretty funny, I use that bulb lol.

Edit: Apparently the advertised lumen output is 27,500 lumens for my Phillip's bulb, which is great because I thought I was getting 1k less lol.

27,500 even better im still using the bulb that came with system and it happens to be a agromax but im sure ill venture towards those phillips bulbs in the future
 

JackHerer

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so I got my White Rhine seeds yesterday, with some free Thai Skunk and I soaked 2 WR and one THAI they sunk from me tapping them in 8 hours and I put them in peat pots in my rubbermaid "greenhouse", I did one of each in the paper towel method....

bigger problem is I saw 3 what I beleive to be spider mites, I am going to spray the plants and keep an eye out, I am freakin out about seeing spider mites an hour after Im about to start the ones I really care about I think I may try some neem oil also.
 

Mindmelted

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Thanks again for the praise Mind, I really appreciate it. If you need more signatures Seminole Community College and Ybor if you live close to Tampa my girl says you'll probably get some signatures there too. I think it's awesome that you're going with your brother to Pride, that's really cool on so many levels dude. You know because of people like yourself, you're paving the way and making it easier for people like my girl and I to move back to Florida and for that Mind I thank you :clap:.
I live around St.Pete,You and your girl should move back.We would have a hell of a time Doobs.I can tell we would have a blast hanging out.And i am glad you approve,When i first found out i was kinda stupid about it.But then i was thinking he is still my Bro and that is all that counts.:peace: and Love Doobs:joint:
 
Sp4ce back with a question; im growing in miracle grow moisture control mix with pre fert nutrients and ive started flowering. its been about a week now and i see buds forming, but theyre really small. with miracle grow although it is pre fert, should i still use a bloooming feed for bigger buds or is the mg providing enough? got pics but don't know if anybody can make them out
 

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Robertx

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A question. I plan getting a HPS soon for flower, while i will use 6500k CFLs for Veg.

My box is pretty small: 1.3' x 2' x 2.2' - Will a common household fan blowing air directly to the bulb and 2 PC fans for exaust do the job? I live in a HOT place.

I thought of buying a 70W HPS - will it be worth?
 

Mindmelted

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Sp4ce back with a question; im growing in miracle grow moisture control mix with pre fert nutrients and ive started flowering. its been about a week now and i see buds forming, but theyre really small. with miracle grow although it is pre fert, should i still use a bloooming feed for bigger buds or is the mg providing enough? got pics but don't know if anybody can make them out
It was all right to start with it,But i would change to some real ferts.Like beastie bloomz,or open sesame.:peace:
 

Ceebus

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Started 12/12 cycle last night, still not sure on the sex of the Northern Lights plants, the White Dwarf is still too young to flower so I will be moving it upstairs on lights out period. Plants have responded very well to their new pots and soil. I am hitting the lower nodes with a few CFL's also.
 

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Mindmelted

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Started 12/12 cycle last night, still not sure on the sex of the Northern Lights plants, the White Dwarf is still too young to flower so I will be moving it upstairs on lights out period. Plants have responded very well to their new pots and soil. I am hitting the lower nodes with a few CFL's also.
They appear to be nice and healthy.Good job,Keep up the good work.:peace:
 

Mindmelted

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Here is some Porn for the club as the young ones would say:hump:

I present White Berry,Day 23 Flowering.
Temps 78(on)
Temps 68(off)
Solution Temp 68
PPM 1150
PH 5.8
Hum 35%

And that is Tuesdays porn fest:peace:
 

Doobieus

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I live around St.Pete,You and your girl should move back.We would have a hell of a time Doobs.I can tell we would have a blast hanging out.And i am glad you approve,When i first found out i was kinda stupid about it.But then i was thinking he is still my Bro and that is all that counts.:peace: and Love Doobs:joint:
Yeah we're trying to make it back out there eventually because her mostly all her family lives out there. Yeah dude no doubt we'd have a great time. Plus we could exchange home grown lol and grow methods and stuff :weed:.

Yeah most of my gay male friends went through some resentment from their brothers when they came out, it's really not that uncommon. What is uncommon however (In my experience) is the brothers coming around like yourself and accepting things the way they are :bigjoint:.

Love peace and chicken grease.
 

Doobieus

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Sp4ce back with a question; im growing in miracle grow moisture control mix with pre fert nutrients and ive started flowering. its been about a week now and i see buds forming, but theyre really small. with miracle grow although it is pre fert, should i still use a bloooming feed for bigger buds or is the mg providing enough? got pics but don't know if anybody can make them out
Yes you should use bloom nutes and yes it is not going to provide enough. The way the prenutes work in MG is they release slowly when watered only. The problem with this is that it won't give enough nutrients close to the end of harvest but still have enough stocked in the soil to take forever to flush properly.

I'd reccomend starting bloom nutes and then doing a super flush the last 2.5 weeks instead of just 2 weeks.

Hope this helps some.
 

Doobieus

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A question. I plan getting a HPS soon for flower, while i will use 6500k CFLs for Veg.

My box is pretty small: 1.3' x 2' x 2.2' - Will a common household fan blowing air directly to the bulb and 2 PC fans for exaust do the job? I live in a HOT place.

I thought of buying a 70W HPS - will it be worth?
For that size in a hot environment.... I'd go with 10"-12" house fans one exhaust, one intake. If that does not cool it down enough then you're looking at putting those PC fans in at that point. If you're going with a 70w HPS then go with both fans and both PC fans. I'd say put a fan and a PC fan at the top to exhaust and a fan and PC fan on the bottom to draw in cool air for intake.

Hope this helps.
 

Mindmelted

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A question. I plan getting a HPS soon for flower, while i will use 6500k CFLs for Veg.

My box is pretty small: 1.3' x 2' x 2.2' - Will a common household fan blowing air directly to the bulb and 2 PC fans for exaust do the job? I live in a HOT place.

I thought of buying a 70W HPS - will it be worth?
I used a 150 watt hps in a box not much bigger than this.It was cramped but with a good fan i had no heat issues.I was using a S&P 197 cfm though.
 
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