blazinbudsforever
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looking to take off a few of the big colas
I dont have a scope that why im a askin mmk
I dont have a scope that why im a askin mmk
another "is she done yet" for a first grow
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blazinbudsforever
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o ya its Lowryder 2 prob 65 days or so not sure
blazinbudsforever
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come on my friends what say you?
SpruceZeus
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I'd say it looks pretty close. Hard to say for sure.
At the end of the day it's your weed and your call.
But if you don't mind i'm gonna copy+paste a post i made in another thread....
I'm personally of the opinion that 90% of the growers on this site (And probably in general) harvest too early. By letting the plants go a little longer you're ensuring that the've plumped as much as they're going to.
Despite popular opinion to the contrary(and don't fool yourself, the jury is still out on this one) Recent studies have shown ;contrary to what was previously believed, that THC itself (And its predecessor THC-A) are quite guilty of causing the confusion and drowsyness associated with burnout and other cannabinoids (our friend CBN, and a handful of others) to be the catylist (along with THC) to being 'high' rather than 'baked'
Regardless, whether or not theres any substance to the aforementioned study, its easy to get the high you want.
If you want a soaring 'cerebral' high: Get yourself a tropical sativa that contains a high level of THC-V and grow it until it is ripe.
If you want the narcotic couchlock stone, grow a rugged indica until its ripe.
Notice a pattern of growing it until its ripe? Its a really good rule to live by.
OF course we have to remember that there is more to a good high than just THC. At last count there are at least 66 cannabinoids, and we don't know what most of them do.
Now alot of people will tell you that you should harvest based on the colour of your trichomes. But (again, in my opinion) that is far too simplistic and there are too many variables to make that an effective strategy. I've made that point a million times before and i'm not going to re-hash it here, but rest assured there is more to the picture than just trich colour.
A ripe marijuana plant will be filled in, will have an amber tinge to the buds. The pistils should have browned (or orange-d) off and receded into the buds. The seed bracts should be swollen and the trichomes should be sticking straight out with bulbous ends. Also, because you're coming close to the end of plant's life cycle, the leaves should have yellowed off and started to die.
one of my plants, 3 days before chop-chop.
Another very important (imho) reason to let your plants mature is Terpenoid production. Terpenes are responsible for alot of the complex (And enjoyable) flavours that cannabis produces. Some of the most intense flavours are produced on the "downslope" of cannabis's life cycle. My personal experience with this came when i was growing GH cheese. One of the plants i harvested at 8 weeks and it tasted pretty nice and had pretty dense buds. The other i grew until about 9 1/2 weeks and it had most amazing, sour, skunky, delicious taste with rock hard buds.
Here is my interpretation (and maybe exaggeration) of a scenario i see all too often...
Quote:
I'm not anti knowledge, i just cant stand these "rules" that more often than not lead people down the wrong path.
Lets cut through the bullshit and spread good information in a way that is not so absoloute. Or at very least explain the growth stages of cannabis making sure to mention that the pistils should have receded back into the bud before you chop. Regardless of trichome colour.
At the end of the day it's your weed and your call.
But if you don't mind i'm gonna copy+paste a post i made in another thread....
I'm personally of the opinion that 90% of the growers on this site (And probably in general) harvest too early. By letting the plants go a little longer you're ensuring that the've plumped as much as they're going to.
Despite popular opinion to the contrary(and don't fool yourself, the jury is still out on this one) Recent studies have shown ;contrary to what was previously believed, that THC itself (And its predecessor THC-A) are quite guilty of causing the confusion and drowsyness associated with burnout and other cannabinoids (our friend CBN, and a handful of others) to be the catylist (along with THC) to being 'high' rather than 'baked'
Regardless, whether or not theres any substance to the aforementioned study, its easy to get the high you want.
If you want a soaring 'cerebral' high: Get yourself a tropical sativa that contains a high level of THC-V and grow it until it is ripe.
If you want the narcotic couchlock stone, grow a rugged indica until its ripe.
Notice a pattern of growing it until its ripe? Its a really good rule to live by.
OF course we have to remember that there is more to a good high than just THC. At last count there are at least 66 cannabinoids, and we don't know what most of them do.
Now alot of people will tell you that you should harvest based on the colour of your trichomes. But (again, in my opinion) that is far too simplistic and there are too many variables to make that an effective strategy. I've made that point a million times before and i'm not going to re-hash it here, but rest assured there is more to the picture than just trich colour.
A ripe marijuana plant will be filled in, will have an amber tinge to the buds. The pistils should have browned (or orange-d) off and receded into the buds. The seed bracts should be swollen and the trichomes should be sticking straight out with bulbous ends. Also, because you're coming close to the end of plant's life cycle, the leaves should have yellowed off and started to die.
one of my plants, 3 days before chop-chop.
Another very important (imho) reason to let your plants mature is Terpenoid production. Terpenes are responsible for alot of the complex (And enjoyable) flavours that cannabis produces. Some of the most intense flavours are produced on the "downslope" of cannabis's life cycle. My personal experience with this came when i was growing GH cheese. One of the plants i harvested at 8 weeks and it tasted pretty nice and had pretty dense buds. The other i grew until about 9 1/2 weeks and it had most amazing, sour, skunky, delicious taste with rock hard buds.
Here is my interpretation (and maybe exaggeration) of a scenario i see all too often...
Quote:
That plant is 4 weeks into 12/12. Granted not all of the trichomes are that far along. And most people arent going to harvest weed that looks like this. But my point with this is that you have to look at the big picture. Stop being so scientific and start being practical.Quote:noob mcboob
I'm a new grower and i've been reading all this great information about when its time to harvest. Theres pictures and everything!!!
Look at my trichs, they look nice and milky with a touch of amber just like the ones in the picture that says its harvest time now!!!
So i just have one question....
Does this look ready to you?
I'm not anti knowledge, i just cant stand these "rules" that more often than not lead people down the wrong path.
Lets cut through the bullshit and spread good information in a way that is not so absoloute. Or at very least explain the growth stages of cannabis making sure to mention that the pistils should have receded back into the bud before you chop. Regardless of trichome colour.
iloveit
Well-Known Member
I'd say it looks pretty close. Hard to say for sure.
At the end of the day it's your weed and your call.
But if you don't mind i'm gonna copy+paste a post i made in another thread....
I'm personally of the opinion that 90% of the growers on this site (And probably in general) harvest too early. By letting the plants go a little longer you're ensuring that the've plumped as much as they're going to.
Despite popular opinion to the contrary(and don't fool yourself, the jury is still out on this one) Recent studies have shown ;contrary to what was previously believed, that THC itself (And its predecessor THC-A) are quite guilty of causing the confusion and drowsyness associated with burnout and other cannabinoids (our friend CBN, and a handful of others) to be the catylist (along with THC) to being 'high' rather than 'baked'
Regardless, whether or not theres any substance to the aforementioned study, its easy to get the high you want.
If you want a soaring 'cerebral' high: Get yourself a tropical sativa that contains a high level of THC-V and grow it until it is ripe.
If you want the narcotic couchlock stone, grow a rugged indica until its ripe.
Notice a pattern of growing it until its ripe? Its a really good rule to live by.
OF course we have to remember that there is more to a good high than just THC. At last count there are at least 66 cannabinoids, and we don't know what most of them do.
Now alot of people will tell you that you should harvest based on the colour of your trichomes. But (again, in my opinion) that is far too simplistic and there are too many variables to make that an effective strategy. I've made that point a million times before and i'm not going to re-hash it here, but rest assured there is more to the picture than just trich colour.
A ripe marijuana plant will be filled in, will have an amber tinge to the buds. The pistils should have browned (or orange-d) off and receded into the buds. The seed bracts should be swollen and the trichomes should be sticking straight out with bulbous ends. Also, because you're coming close to the end of plant's life cycle, the leaves should have yellowed off and started to die.
one of my plants, 3 days before chop-chop.
Another very important (imho) reason to let your plants mature is Terpenoid production. Terpenes are responsible for alot of the complex (And enjoyable) flavours that cannabis produces. Some of the most intense flavours are produced on the "downslope" of cannabis's life cycle. My personal experience with this came when i was growing GH cheese. One of the plants i harvested at 8 weeks and it tasted pretty nice and had pretty dense buds. The other i grew until about 9 1/2 weeks and it had most amazing, sour, skunky, delicious taste with rock hard buds.
Here is my interpretation (and maybe exaggeration) of a scenario i see all too often...
Quote:
That plant is 4 weeks into 12/12. Granted not all of the trichomes are that far along. And most people arent going to harvest weed that looks like this. But my point with this is that you have to look at the big picture. Stop being so scientific and start being practical.
I'm not anti knowledge, i just cant stand these "rules" that more often than not lead people down the wrong path.
Lets cut through the bullshit and spread good information in a way that is not so absoloute. Or at very least explain the growth stages of cannabis making sure to mention that the pistils should have receded back into the bud before you chop. Regardless of trichome colour.
Its about time someone finally summed it up with common sense.
I have only one question: What if I wait for the plant to ripen & then from this point begin to flush for 2 weeks, will the THC or other factors decrease thus reducing potency come harvest?
SpruceZeus
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I think you'd be hard pressed to find a plant that is legitimately "over-ripe" to the point where the THC has degraded.
Its pretty widely accepted that THC is the precursor to CBN, ie: THC will, over time, break down into CBN (among other cannabinoids)
Now CBN is accepted by the majority to be the cannabinoid that "burns you out" and leaves you with a more narcotic, "couch lock" high.
But I maintain that CBN, in conjunction with THC (and im sure dozens of other cannabinoids) contribute to a more complete high.
Don't get me wrong, if you grow your cannabis for months and months past ripeness, it will eventually lose the ability to get you high. But trust ne when i say its hard to go that far.
Personally, i've flowered a 9 week strain for 16 or so weeks in an attempt to get it to spit out some pollen sacs.
here it is at 9 weeks, about harvest time.
Well it kept pushing out shoots of calyxs and pistils the whole time.
here it is at about 13 weeks.
Unfortunately i never got any staminate growth. What a did get was a plant that was an orange tint, covered in trichomes, and as hard as a rock. Not to mention some of the tastiest smoke i've ever had Aaaaaaaaand, some extremely potent bud that would kick even the most experienced toker's ass.
In a case of severe wrongness, i neglected to take a photo of the bud past 13 weeks, but rest assured it was a thing of beauty
Long story short. it takes a LONG TIME before bud is "ruined" from growing too long. For my trouble, its always better to err on the side of "over-ripe" then underripe.
iloveit
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Nice one SpruceZeus, Ill keep that in mind, thanks.
iloveit
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I forgot to ask, usually what percentage of the over all bud should be orange/tinge colour before chopping?I think you'd be hard pressed to find a plant that is legitimately "over-ripe" to the point where the THC has degraded.
Its pretty widely accepted that THC is the precursor to CBN, ie: THC will, over time, break down into CBN (among other cannabinoids)
Now CBN is accepted by the majority to be the cannabinoid that "burns you out" and leaves you with a more narcotic, "couch lock" high.
But I maintain that CBN, in conjunction with THC (and im sure dozens of other cannabinoids) contribute to a more complete high.
Don't get me wrong, if you grow your cannabis for months and months past ripeness, it will eventually lose the ability to get you high. But trust ne when i say its hard to go that far.
Personally, i've flowered a 9 week strain for 16 or so weeks in an attempt to get it to spit out some pollen sacs.
here it is at 9 weeks, about harvest time.
Well it kept pushing out shoots of calyxs and pistils the whole time.
here it is at about 13 weeks.
Unfortunately i never got any staminate growth. What a did get was a plant that was an orange tint, covered in trichomes, and as hard as a rock. Not to mention some of the tastiest smoke i've ever had Aaaaaaaaand, some extremely potent bud that would kick even the most experienced toker's ass.
In a case of severe wrongness, i neglected to take a photo of the bud past 13 weeks, but rest assured it was a thing of beauty
Long story short. it takes a LONG TIME before bud is "ruined" from growing too long. For my trouble, its always better to err on the side of "over-ripe" then underripe.
SpruceZeus
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I hate to say anything "should" be a certain way. But personally i like to let pretty much the whole plant amber off before i chop.
Everyone has their own genetics and own tastes though, so your mileage may vary.
iloveit
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You mentioned in a previous post that you allow the hairs to recede after turning orange, do you reckon thats one of the signs to keep an eye on if intending for the plant to reach full potential?
I appreciate your honest.
Brick Top
New Member
Why would anyone start to grow and not have a scope or a jewelers loop or something adequate to view trichomes?
Without something like that there is no way to ever know for sure if you are harvesting anywhere close to maximum potency so why go through the cost and expense and take the risk since your chances of ending up with something less than what it could be are far greater than ending up with something that is everything it could be?
　
It just doesnt make any sense to me.
SpruceZeus
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Definitely, i wouldnt havest before the pistils recede into the bud
Bricktop
God forbid someone doesnt grow dope in a manner you see fit.
Jesus effin christ,
every post of yours i've ever read is an attempt to make yourself appear better and smarter than everyone else.
Theres more than one way to grow dope, Quit acting like yours is the only way.
sorry if thats uncalled for, but its getting to the point where every post of yours is rubbing me the wrong way.
blazinbudsforever
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I decided to chop a branch that had all orange hairs what yall think? weird bud structure if you ask me
+rep....I was just going to say the same thing. All I ever see from this guy is talking about scopes and shit. To be honest, I don't even know how long my plants flower....I just chop them when they have that glow to them.
blazinbudsforever
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ok thanks for jacking my thread guys .... + rep not
Brick Top
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Yes there is more than one way to grow pot. There is the right way and then there is the wrong way. The wrong way is going into it without knowing squat and not having everything that is needed to make sure you achieve the very best of results possible with your setup.
　
Regardless of you liking that or not or being willing to accept that or not it is true. I have done this for roughly 37 years and I know it is true.
　
I see people on sites like this constantly dishing out horrible advice, inaccurate information, misperceptions about growing, baseless opinions being bandied about as if they were facts and myths and urban legends spread like an incurable virus from one crop of new growers to the next so pardon me if I make an attempt to tell it like it is instead of doing like most people here do and tell it like it isnt and how it will never be.
If that rubs you the wrong way, well personally I do not care in the least. You have the option to either not read my messages or to use the ignore function and not even see my messages. If you read them and they bother you that is your choice, you chose to be upset because you chose to read what I wrote.
iloveit
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What strain is that?I decided to chop a branch that had all orange hairs what yall think? weird bud structure if you ask me
GypsyBush
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I have had similar growth on my Indicas...
My problem turned out to be that I am a dumbass that didn't read the instructions on the bottle....
I was feeding Boost Juice constantly, when it is supposed to be used once a week (ebb/flow)...
They were tweaking... and as a friend pointed out to me... there's no such thing as a fat tweaker...lol...
Not saying that is your problem.. or that it is a problem...
That's a nice looking nug... but that "nody" structure is very similar to what I had..
Cheers...
