Obama Deception

CaptnJack

Active Member
ok lets be honest guys, run off basic knowledge of our forefathers to begin with, why are we americans? because of oppresive governments, such that their reach was tooooo big over the ppl, and once we rebelled and went to the west now known as america we had to completely reject britain and which caused revolutionary war, once we ESTABLISHED ourselves as an independant country, our forfathers knew that someday we'd have to revolt again, once our own government became to controlling, for one instance yea clinton, and bush did massive damage to our economic stablity but the point is not our president its our government, obama spoke of change, yet in 100 days i seen none yet, all his FRESH politics, haha went out the window and he resumed bush's seat, his increasing grip on firearms is rediculous, and he HAS been caught lying (well his cabinet at least, which IS a direct reflection of him) in mexico there have been massive amounts of violent out break involving guns, which the us determined 95% of the guns are traced back to the us, and thats why they're tightening the reigns which is bullshit, by illegalizing weed we opened that market to mexico with a government most crooked, mexico is the closest easiest way, but when statistics came out, it turned out that out of ALLLLL the guns only 17% of THOSEwere traceable and about 80% of the 17% which was all together 13% of allllll guns were from america im just sayin, i dont like obama, no, i dont like how he's using the federal government to challenge inner state business. like a giant organized crime threatening force for coersion. anyone else remember the completely legal and just picketing in dc and the military opened FIRE on ww1 or ww2 (that part i cant remember) vets? its rediculous, the government has tooooo much power and needs to be put back in check
 

jfgordon1

Well-Known Member
ok lets be honest guys, run off basic knowledge of our forefathers to begin with, why are we americans? because of oppresive governments, such that their reach was tooooo big over the ppl, and once we rebelled and went to the west now known as america we had to completely reject britain and which caused revolutionary war, once we ESTABLISHED ourselves as an independant country, our forfathers knew that someday we'd have to revolt again, once our own government became to controlling, for one instance yea clinton, and bush did massive damage to our economic stablity but the point is not our president its our government, obama spoke of change, yet in 100 days i seen none yet, all his FRESH politics, haha went out the window and he resumed bush's seat, his increasing grip on firearms is rediculous, and he HAS been caught lying (well his cabinet at least, which IS a direct reflection of him) in mexico there have been massive amounts of violent out break involving guns, which the us determined 95% of the guns are traced back to the us, and thats why they're tightening the reigns which is bullshit, by illegalizing weed we opened that market to mexico with a government most crooked, mexico is the closest easiest way, but when statistics came out, it turned out that out of ALLLLL the guns only 17% of THOSEwere traceable and about 80% of the 17% which was all together 13% of allllll guns were from america im just sayin, i dont like obama, no, i dont like how he's using the federal government to challenge inner state business. like a giant organized crime threatening force for coersion. anyone else remember the completely legal and just picketing in dc and the military opened FIRE on ww1 or ww2 (that part i cant remember) vets? its rediculous, the government has tooooo much power and needs to be put back in check
great post sir. welcome to rollitup. and im sure this will be ur 1st + rep. congrats :hump:
 

medicineman

New Member
ok lets be honest guys, run off basic knowledge of our forefathers to begin with, why are we americans? because of oppresive governments, such that their reach was tooooo big over the ppl, and once we rebelled and went to the west now known as america we had to completely reject britain and which caused revolutionary war, once we ESTABLISHED ourselves as an independant country, our forfathers knew that someday we'd have to revolt again, once our own government became to controlling, for one instance yea clinton, and bush did massive damage to our economic stablity but the point is not our president its our government, obama spoke of change, yet in 100 days i seen none yet, all his FRESH politics, haha went out the window and he resumed bush's seat, his increasing grip on firearms is rediculous, and he HAS been caught lying (well his cabinet at least, which IS a direct reflection of him) in mexico there have been massive amounts of violent out break involving guns, which the us determined 95% of the guns are traced back to the us, and thats why they're tightening the reigns which is bullshit, by illegalizing weed we opened that market to mexico with a government most crooked, mexico is the closest easiest way, but when statistics came out, it turned out that out of ALLLLL the guns only 17% of THOSEwere traceable and about 80% of the 17% which was all together 13% of allllll guns were from america im just sayin, i dont like obama, no, i dont like how he's using the federal government to challenge inner state business. like a giant organized crime threatening force for coersion. anyone else remember the completely legal and just picketing in dc and the military opened FIRE on ww1 or ww2 (that part i cant remember) vets? its rediculous, the government has tooooo much power and needs to be put back in check
Welcome to RIU, now get yourself together and stop ranting and post something that isn't pure hate. This is not the founding fathers America, it will never be again. That America doesn't exist and I'm damn glad. They actually had slavery back then, there were no paved roads, no TV, no Automobiles, no indoor plumbing. Geeze it was horrible. This government needs to make some changes, that's for sure, but it can never go back to those days. The founding fathers were a bunch of rich white guys, sort of like what is running the country right now, sans one black president, thank god for that.
 

CaptnJack

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Welcome to RIU, now get yourself together and stop ranting and post something that isn't pure hate. This is not the founding fathers America, it will never be again. That America doesn't exist and I'm damn glad. They actually had slavery back then, there were no paved roads, no TV, no Automobiles, no indoor plumbing. Geeze it was horrible. This government needs to make some changes, that's for sure, but it can never go back to those days. The founding fathers were a bunch of rich white guys, sort of like what is running the country right now, sans one black president, thank god for that.


Thanks for the welcome guys,
that aside
Actually friend you are the one ranting and posting out of hate, where is malice in my posts, yet a blind with no fingers could point out the malice in yours

on a civil note-

aaahhh this is true, but why do you feel the need to take it back literally? the point was at THEIR time it was a government tooo over powering and oppressive that our fathers left, ok who said "oh hey lets all forget tv's and roads and toothbrushes (tho some ppl have on that one, nasty teeth) and other commodaties to establish ourselves"? no one. im saying that the more this goes further the more like england we'll become street cameras on every street facial recognition and recognition on plates? sure thats just a taste, how bout their ban on public owning firearms? no ones challengin you dude, just be as open to hear as see as others are to you like myself, im just sayin ppl need to get off their knees for this dude, he's no messiah. he's no christ. he a rich boy from (most prominately) hawaii, put through harvard.

thats the problem with dem. rep. and liberals you all stand so tightly to your partisan, and what your partisan says, yet open your eyes, the news cant really be trusted look at cnn and their reporter on the tea party this year, ignorant and bias. trust your eyes and ears, read up on independant truly non bias sorces

 

may

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Dear Gordon, You righty losers are so far out of touch that I barely listen to your quacking anymore.
Nothing new about that.... you only read to retort.


Scare tactics are your sides forte,,It's either terrorists or commies or liberals, or blacks, mexicans or anything to stir the shit.
DAMN MED you bring up mexicans of all the years of reading here, overgrow ect. I don't remember anyone being any more racist than you are when it comes to mexicans, so please quit adding them to your lists.

Listen, I had to put up with that psycho Bush for 8 fucking years,
JUST THINK OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAD TO PUT UP WITH YOU FOR A LOT LONGER THAN THAT!

Now it's your turn. Can't say I feel ya, at least our guy has brains, and BTW,. he's turning the economy around after 8 nightmarish years of Bush economics. Hang in there Gordon, I'm sure you'll have plenty to bitch about. Geeze, the working class may get a better shake, how terrible, EH?



YES YOU WILL GET A BETTER SHAKE when they grab you by the heals to shake the last few coins you have from your pockets, then you will be sent to some camp to work intill its your time for your box.

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may

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Welcome to RIU, now get yourself together and stop ranting and post something that isn't pure hate.
Did you not find yourself lol as you posted this?

This is not the founding fathers America, it will never be again. That America doesn't exist and I'm damn glad. They actually had slavery back then, there were no paved roads, no TV, no Automobiles, no indoor plumbing. Geeze it was horrible.
I lived like that 9 or10 months wood cook stove wood stove to heat no electricity just to get away from the things that you THINK makes life worth living.and I enjoyed every day. I think that it would be good for everyone to spend a few months living like that. Its always good to get back to the basics it helps you to remember whats important, helps you to recenter yourself by being self-reliant.


This government needs to make some changes, that's for sure, but it can never go back to those days. The founding fathers were a bunch of rich white guys, sort of like what is running the country right now,
Yes I see but hes only half white and to have such hate in you. Let me ask you if you had a scoped rifle and had him dead in the crosshairs what would you do?
sans one black president, thank god for that.
Damn MED I don't think you should even say THAT.
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CaptnJack

Active Member
Oh and Med, lemme ask you this, if bush was such a fuck up, and Obama is so much better and smarter, tell me why he waited till he got in office to say that he's goin to continue bush's politics? see here's the problem med. really need to get off your knees for this dude, just cuz he's the first black president, doesn't REALLY say shit, just means theres a black president, not that EVERYTHING will change now, "Time for a change" really? what change? keep your fuckin change ill keep my dollars asshole. and furthermore the way this guy wants to push america, is fuckin scary, if you knew ANYONE outside your little box like i do, people who are now stationed in london germany, or those that got out of the military and stayed over seas, ALL say that they cant even OWN guns in london anymore, and it alllll started the same way, some borderline socialist lookin for "the best for the people" slowly took away guns, privacy, and many other amenities that you cherish so much, so think before you speak, pull your head out your ass, and foot out your mouth. cuz remember


 

medicineman

New Member
Oh and Med, lemme ask you this, if bush was such a fuck up, and Obama is so much better and smarter, tell me why he waited till he got in office to say that he's goin to continue bush's politics? see here's the problem med. really need to get off your knees for this dude, just cuz he's the first black president, doesn't REALLY say shit, just means theres a black president, not that EVERYTHING will change now, "Time for a change" really? what change? keep your fuckin change ill keep my dollars asshole. and furthermore the way this guy wants to push america, is fuckin scary, if you knew ANYONE outside your little box like i do, people who are now stationed in london germany, or those that got out of the military and stayed over seas, ALL say that they cant even OWN guns in london anymore, and it alllll started the same way, some borderline socialist lookin for "the best for the people" slowly took away guns, privacy, and many other amenities that you cherish so much, so think before you speak, pull your head out your ass, and foot out your mouth. cuz remember


Hey Jack-off with their heads, eh? This aint london and if you remember all that crap you were posting about the founding fathers, I doubt they'll get many guns away from us. They'll have to literally come and get mine, I aint sending them in. I'll bury them in the back yard first, oh that's right, I forgot, I already sold all mine, No guns here dude. I guess you think you can come on here and schmooze with all the righties and make yourself some powerful Icon on RIU, eh? Well go ahead and think you are changing the world, when all you're doing is venting your frustration with a bunch of loser mal-contents, (Righties). You losers are nothing but laughing stock, calling everyone left of Atilla the Hun commies. Do you actually thing any person in their right mind would see anything but a big shitpile of sour grapes in your posts? Hah. Lose away, your party is so far out in left field, they can't even see home plate. The party of "NO". LOSERS, fuckall.
 

lunshbox

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I figured if this thread was put into two different sections, so could my reply:

"First off, the person who started this thread should be billed for waisting 2+ hours of my time watching that absurd video and replaying to mostly uneducated posts. In fact, I should be committed for watching and replying. First off, give me one shred of evidence that the new world order and the illuminati exist. I mean real evidence, not conjecture and wishful thinking. That shit video was so full of logical fallacies that I don't even know where to begin. Hello, argument-from-ignorance and argument-from-authority! I am not the type to get upset of idiotic views, but when there is a video out that people buy in to; hook, line, and sinker; without doing one bit of research from a source that doesn't speak of the new world order and aliens and ghost, is absolutely appalling. I can remember people saying Bill Clinton was the anti-christ (oddly enough at the time, so was Saddam Hussein). The same was said about GW Bush. Bush may have been a bumbling idiot and the worst president ever, but anti-christ he was not.
Anyone who believes in the new world order, or that the president is going to destroy the world, or that congress is part of the wealthy barons who run the world from the underground magma vent, needs to be put in a room with padded walls. Pick up a book that wasn't printed by the National Conspirators Society and read! Just because you think the new world order is out to get you, doesn't make it so. "
 

Microdizzey

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I figured if this thread was put into two different sections, so could my reply:

"First off, the person who started this thread should be billed for waisting 2+ hours of my time watching that absurd video and replaying to mostly uneducated posts. In fact, I should be committed for watching and replying. First off, give me one shred of evidence that the new world order and the illuminati exist. I mean real evidence, not conjecture and wishful thinking. That shit video was so full of logical fallacies that I don't even know where to begin. Hello, argument-from-ignorance and argument-from-authority! I am not the type to get upset of idiotic views, but when there is a video out that people buy in to; hook, line, and sinker; without doing one bit of research from a source that doesn't speak of the new world order and aliens and ghost, is absolutely appalling. I can remember people saying Bill Clinton was the anti-christ (oddly enough at the time, so was Saddam Hussein). The same was said about GW Bush. Bush may have been a bumbling idiot and the worst president ever, but anti-christ he was not.
Anyone who believes in the new world order, or that the president is going to destroy the world, or that congress is part of the wealthy barons who run the world from the underground magma vent, needs to be put in a room with padded walls. Pick up a book that wasn't printed by the National Conspirators Society and read! Just because you think the new world order is out to get you, doesn't make it so. "

Hi, welcome to the forums. It seems you have a lot to learn and that's just fine. Some of us are here to provide information for people who seek it. Criticism is welcome, ignorance and stupidity are not. Understand that, if you choose to seek truth, you will see/hear things you wish you hadn't. Many, many things are kept secret from the public, this is no news for anyone. The question is, what exactly is being kept a secret?

The New World Order is no longer a hidden thing. They call it Global Governance, One World Government, among other things. The Illuminati is an interesting subject, but I have no proof of it's existence so I won't discuss it.

As for NWO, it will be known as a new regulatory system that involves all nations who choose to be a part of it. The IMF provides currency for nations in need, right now they are discussing a one world currency for the IMF to control. The G20 Summit this year was the announcement of this system.

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these decisions and the attached action plan. We have asked the FSB and
the IMF to monitor progress, working with the FATF and the Global
Forum, and to provide a report to the next meeting of our Finance
Ministers and Central Bank Governors.
 

MuyLocoNC

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Hey Jack-off with their heads, eh? This aint london and if you remember all that crap you were posting about the founding fathers, I doubt they'll get many guns away from us. They'll have to literally come and get mine, I aint sending them in. I'll bury them in the back yard first, oh that's right, I forgot, I already sold all mine, No guns here dude. I guess you think you can come on here and schmooze with all the righties and make yourself some powerful Icon on RIU, eh? Well go ahead and think you are changing the world, when all you're doing is venting your frustration with a bunch of loser mal-contents, (Righties). You losers are nothing but laughing stock, calling everyone left of Atilla the Hun commies. Do you actually thing any person in their right mind would see anything but a big shitpile of sour grapes in your posts? Hah. Lose away, your party is so far out in left field, they can't even see home plate. The party of "NO". LOSERS, fuckall.

You can always tell when medman post high and when he posts stone cold sober. When he ain't high he actually attempts to spew the liberal talking points he heard on Oberman yesterday. When he's baked he just pukes out a bunch of insults at anyone that dares pull back the curtain of the great and powerful OZ.

I saw this cartoon yesterday and it reminded me of you Med.
 

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greenfarmergirl

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Obama is Carter again. Carter sucked. The world is evil. Most countries are run by Dictators. Of course they hate us, they don't want their people to be free. So many were caught up in the Obama lies lower taxes, more help from the gov. Guess what it doesn't work. 8 weeks into his Pres. he went back on his middle class tax cut. He is payimg off the unions with his auto buy outs. Let GM and Chrysler file chapter 11. Then they could lower their bills. GM makes a cheap Hybrid car that they can't sell here because their union blocked the sale in our country. We need term limits in our congress. All these guys want to do is get in anyway possible and stay in anyway possible. Obama and his crew now don't want people to have free speech. They have put Libratarians on the watch list for possible domestic terrorism. All because they disagree with him.
 
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rado

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And lets blame it on Obama. It couldn't be our foriegn policy that for decades have bankrupted our economy and made 90% of the world hate us, It couldn't be the fact that we spend more on our military than the whole rest of the world combined. Yeah we are heading down that path to ruin, but you can't honestly blame the guy that has just taken over the insanity ward for the mass insanity now can you? Obama may actually be our only hope to end this insane paranoia that fuels the military/industrial complex. We actually have enough "firepower" to wipe out every living being on planet earth 1,000 times over, and we are afraid of some bearded thugs from the islamic world, insanity personified. We need to figure out how to get along with the rest of the world, not how to annihilate it, we already know how to do that.
The problem is America is too stubborn. We have to have the best, because at a whole, we know most of the world hates us, and we feel like we have to defend ourselves.

Now, the military might not mean much to you, but you keep in mind who's out there trying to keep us from getting attacked again, such as 9/11 for instance. (I don't know or care if you think it's a conspiracy or not, I didn't read any of your other posts).

Personally, I'm a mechanic in the Army, and I'm not going to make anything anymore. My re-enlistment is coming up, and I'm not even going to get HALF of what I'm making now. Obama is dicking us over.

Obama is the anti-christ. Bush had to take on a lot of what Clinton left. And while in office, we were attacked. How the fuck is Obama's shit-storm that much at fault of Bush? Yeah, Bush made a lot of mistakes, but nothing in what Obama is even PLANNING of doing.

He's spilling his bullshit of how he's going to lower our national defecit, yet he has a plan for that'll run us close to a trillion dollars. Obama is going to cause World War 3, and in 2012, America loses, which in a mega-backfire, due to how our country is with intervention, the rest of the world suffers, and gradually lets the human race kill itself off.
 
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NoDrama

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Whether rightly or not, President Obama, having come to power at the dawn of this crisis, will be blamed for it by most people. He will be a one-term president, In response to his perceived socialization of America. Thats the way Politics work.
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Hydroton

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All of yall need to stop watching news produced within the US. Depending on what channel you watch, you get completely opposite interpretations of the same story. News media in the country has lost all of its ethical boundaries and has become more entertainment than "news." Try getting your national / international news from mHz They broadcast global news programs from all over the world. If you truly would like to feel informed and educated on world matters, then you need to seek various sources for your info. Just watching CNN, or FOX, or any other politically entrenched news corporation in the USA is the single worst thing you can do for your brain.
 
Obama has not turned shit around. All these trillions of dollars are going to come back to shit on our head, its only a matter of time. He has succeeded in propping up our fake economy with trillions in tax payers money for a short while, but it cannot last. The national debt, trade defecit and budget defecit are our major problems, and they are not getting any better. Its only a matter of time before China stops taking our worthless IOUs, and then we are royally fucked.
at least someone realizes you cant spend your way out of a economic recession. & how is the fed going to stimulate the economy when interest rates are at 0 right now?
Im glad a few people realize the federal reserve is behind all of this. watch this .. its Greenspan talking

https://www.rollitup.org/politics/191903-alan-greenspan-ron-paul-interview.html
 

lunshbox

Member
Hi, welcome to the forums. It seems you have a lot to learn and that's just fine. Some of us are here to provide information for people who seek it. Criticism is welcome, ignorance and stupidity are not. Understand that, if you choose to seek truth, you will see/hear things you wish you hadn't. Many, many things are kept secret from the public, this is no news for anyone. The question is, what exactly is being kept a secret?

The New World Order is no longer a hidden thing. They call it Global Governance, One World Government, among other things. The Illuminati is an interesting subject, but I have no proof of it's existence so I won't discuss it.

As for NWO, it will be known as a new regulatory system that involves all nations who choose to be a part of it. The IMF provides currency for nations in need, right now they are discussing a one world currency for the IMF to control. The G20 Summit this year was the announcement of this system.
Classic ad hominem attack. If you want to debate something with me seriously, don't lace your arguments with logical fallacies.

<special pleading, ad hominem, argument from final consequences, argument from authority, confusing association with causation, false dichotomy, non-sequitur, and begging the question>

I had no idea that many logical fallacies could be crammed in to one statement. You, my friend, are the one who has a lot to learn.
 

Microdizzey

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Classic ad hominem attack. If you want to debate something with me seriously, don't lace your arguments with logical fallacies.

<special pleading, ad hominem, argument from final consequences, argument from authority, confusing association with causation, false dichotomy, non-sequitur, and begging the question>

I had no idea that many logical fallacies could be crammed in to one statement. You, my friend, are the one who has a lot to learn.
WOW man. Did you even watch what Gordon Brown said? Did you even read the documents provided by the G20 Summit and CFR, that I posted?

Sorry but I think you're the one who made a non-sequitur comment. I was hardly debating, more like making a statement. I humbly welcomed you to the forums, then provided links to government documents. Then you attacked me? I like your choice of words but you choose to attack instead of discuss. That shows what kind of person you are. If what I post is false, you can choose to explain why it is false. Which is what I would like people to do if they disagree with me.

So please. If you disagree, explain why. Most importantly, explain the logical fallacies in the comment I posted before. Don't just bash and attack like a child.
 
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