Anybody else having trouble trying to unload their crop?

[Babs34]

Phew, read up to page 7......don't know why I even read that far.
Look, here's the deal. About 15 years ago, I suddenly realized I must be getting old or something. When I was "younger"....people SHARED THE JOY. In HS, a lot of the local neighbors were always growing something--and something to behold at that. I smoked the BEST weed of my life over 20 years ago!
Then.......I moved. Being I knew no one, I was hitting up local "teenies" who were so obviously smoking, only to find out that they were charging 50 to 70 bucks for an eighth. I was like, "WTF?""".....SERIOUSLY, wtf is an 8th anyway? Back in the day, there was no such thing. A quarter was as small a sale one would ever even think of making.
I bought that "crap" maybe twice. Yeah, it was decent weed, but the way these sellers rambled about their crop and the lables they gave their stuff made me cringe. I just love this new young generation that feels they have coined everything there is to know about weed....pfft and LOL. Call it chronic, beasters, headies, WHATEVER!!!! Then you want bragging rights because there is not even a single seed in that OZ???? I WANT those seeds dammit, and I know that you, the grower, does NOT want me to have THEM and that you go through great lengths to make certain I do NOT have access to them. GTFO........thus my own garden.
It is costly to grow, no question. Having said what I have already, if I were to sell (which I don't).....I can see wishing to charge more than I would be prepared to buy for.

 

[Mulltie]

man your prices are real good and your growin good weed.. you gota ask yourself is it pay'in ya atall like?
and do you enjoy it.. like if its not causing you much problems growin it why should you stop..just concentrate on selling ounces aposed to 8ths..probly yourr best bet in my opinion if youve got to much you could always get it shipped over to me Haha..i didnt read your earlier replies.. thats actually painstaking man hope it picks up for you soon

 

[poplars]

poplars have you ever taken an economics course?

I'm guessing not (or at least you didn't take one and pass, or you cheated).

It's simple - a given commodity is worth however much the consumer will pay for it. If the consumer no longer wants to pay the higher price, they will not buy. Demand goes down, price drops. If consumers buy a lot of the commodity at the given price and drive supply down, then price will go up.

It's OK that you don't think that's how the world should work. However, it does. Money spent to produce a given product has little to do with the price it can be sold for.

yes, I understand this concept.

it's also highly dependent upon how much it actually costs to get the bud. which can be VERY VERY LOW.

if you grow outside, and you have amazing conditions, you can get bud atleast 90% as good as indoor. I'll give you guys that 10% because I'm sure outdoor inconsistencies allow for this difference.

but these prices, are due to inability to have a continual stream of supply. it's just dealer after dealer, there is no smooth flow of providers and growers.

plus the fact that it's ILLEGAL. allows you to have a black market in which prices are no-where near competition price, there is NO competition.

maybe you're the one who should take the economics course . . . .

 

[purplekitty7772008]

yes, I understand this concept.

it's also highly dependent upon how much it actually costs to get the bud. which can be VERY VERY LOW.

if you grow outside, and you have amazing conditions, you can get bud atleast 90% as good as indoor. I'll give you guys that 10% because I'm sure outdoor inconsistencies allow for this difference.

but these prices, are due to inability to have a continual stream of supply. it's just dealer after dealer, there is no smooth flow of providers and growers.

plus the fact that it's ILLEGAL. allows you to have a black market in which prices are no-where near competition price, there is NO competition.

maybe you're the one who should take the economics course . . . .

Great idea. Maybe you should start telling everyone half oz's and up.
My dealer went to dimes and up because they weren't making money back
on nicks.

Ok, maybe half oz's and up is a bit much. Maybe 1/4's and up.

 

[Greyskull]

but these prices, are due to inability to have a continual stream of supply. it's just dealer after dealer, there is no smooth flow of providers and growers.

plus the fact that it's ILLEGAL. allows you to have a black market in which prices are no-where near competition price, there is NO competition.

ummm... there are like 200+ coops & collectives in LA county. pretty much totally legal here.

and there is competion galore. if your buds are not "up to par" you will be sent out the door and on your way.And the next guy is readywith his wares.

sorry to keep having to break your bubble dude. BUT ITS NOT LIKE YOU THINK. Far from it....

 

[tilemaster]

He's just too deep in his b/s too see it greyskull..were not going 2 convince him 4k is worth the kron we grow..but the fact remain dat he probably dont have the 4k in the first place...Edit: Fk that id charge 50 a bag to those that bitch so edit: 6,400

 

[poplars]

I know you guys desperately want this bubble to stay big but it's going to burst just like the fucking housing market.

I know about some counties in california, that's NOT legal. that's not even the definition of legal and regulated.

jesus, and you guys think I have my head in the sand with my own BS . . . maybe take a look in the mirror, if you can even SEE IT.

and it's not like I don't grow chronic, or that my shit isn't as good as your guyses so it doesn't deserve to be sold the same, I seriously believe that weed is over-priced, and you guys who are making RIDICULOUS loads of money off of it are not going to be making that much forever. expect shit to change in the next 10 years.

 

[Greyskull]

hmmm.... part of why WEED costs money, even in northern california, the coolest chillest place with the cheapest overhead thus lowest prices... is the RISK & DANGERS ASSOCIATTED WITH THE PLANT

http://www.times-standard.com/localnews/ci_12357923

WILLOW CREEK -- It was a drug deal gone wrong, police say.
On Monday night, two men fled from a police convoy driving on State Route 299. According to officials, they wore body armor and fired at police cars with an AK-47 assault rifle through the windows of a gold Jeep Grand Cherokee.

The high speed chase ended after more than 30 minutes with 21-year-old Humboldt County resident David Fields dead of a gunshot wound to the head, and a 19-year-old suspect from Antioch airlifted to a Redding hospital with the same type of injury, Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Brenda Godsey said.
According to Godsey, shortly before 11 p.m., eight people met in the intersection of School Road and Anderson Avenue -- a residential neighborhood in McKinleyville.

Godsey said six of those people had arranged to sell 14 pounds of marijuana to the two men.
At some point during the meeting, Godsey said one of the buyers walked to the Jeep and returned carrying an assault rifle. The second buyer then reportedly took out a hand gun, and the two men ordered the group of six to lie on the street while they took the marijuana.
As the two suspects drove away, they reportedly fired several shots from their vehicle. None of the sellers were injured in the incident. Those shots were reported to police dispatchers, and Godsey said within minutes another caller reported seeing a passenger inside a vehicle matching the same description waving a weapon out of their car window on Giuntoli Lane in Arcata.

The gold Jeep was located by a deputy traveling east on State Route 299. The deputy pursued the vehicle until backup arrived, at which time he attempted a traffic stop. However, the driver reportedly did not yield and accelerated the vehicle.
After about five miles, the Jeep's passenger reportedly fired three or four shots at the deputies behind them, then fired several more times. According to Godsey, the suspects shot the assault rifle at least six or more times at the officers, shooting between two and four rounds each time.
According to scanner traffic broadcast during the incident, repeatedly during the pursuit whenever the Jeep made a right turn, exposing the passenger side of the vehicle to the pursuing police, the passenger would fire through the window.
Throughout the entire incident, no one but the suspects were shot, and no member of law enforcement fired a weapon, Godsey said.
California Highway Patrol officers waiting alongside the highway near Willow Creek set out a spike strip across the road. As the Jeep passed by, its passenger reportedly began firing at the CHP officers, hitting two of their cruisers.
At around 11:45 p.m., the Jeep, damaged by the spike strip, continued on 299 at high speeds for about three-fourths of a mile until it reached a large gravel turnout in the highway overlooking a deep ravine. The vehicle reportedly drove straight through the turnout and over a small dirt embankment and rolled 130 feet down the hill before coming to rest against a patch of young evergreens.
On Tuesday morning, there were no obvious signs the vehicle had slowed before striking the embankment. According to California Highway Patrol spokesman Paul Dahlen, investigators found “no physical evidence they were trying to avoid going the direction they were going.”
Sheriff's deputies following the Jeep stopped in the turnout, and police began securing the area. Scanner traffic indicated deputies called for thermal imaging equipment, portable lights and search dogs, not knowing whether the suspects were still inside the vehicle.
After a short time, an officer reportedly spotted one of the vehicle's occupants, a 19-year-old man, slowly climbing back up over the embankment, wearing a bullet-proof vest and bleeding profusely from a gunshot wound to his head.
According to scanner traffic the bullet wound was just under the man's chin, and appeared to be self-inflicted. He was alert and responsive, and reportedly told police at the scene he had attempted to kill himself.
Fields was found dead inside the vehicle. He appeared to have been shot in the side of the head, said Assistant Coroner Frank Jager.
The surviving suspect was transported to a nearby hospital for treatment. According to Jager, the man was later flown to Mercy Medical Center in Redding.
Dahlen, and Sheriff's Office investigators at the scene, said they do not know whether the shots were fired before or after the vehicle rolled off the road.
”We don't know if they had self-inflicted wounds, or if there was something else going on in that vehicle,” Godsey said. “We're still so early in the investigation.”
During an early search of the wreck scene, investigators reported finding two large plastic bags filled with processed marijuana near the Jeep.
According to Jager, Fields was a Humboldt County resident but it was unclear exactly where he lived. He worked in construction until about one year ago.
The surviving suspect has not been arrested or charged, Godsey said, though he remains under law enforcement supervision at the Redding hospital. The 19-year-old suspect's name has not been released as he had not been charged with a crime by press time.
Godsey said the six people who attempted to sell the marijuana in McKinleyville have been identified and interviewed, and have been very cooperative with police. It is not yet certain whether they will be charged, Godsey said. She said investigators have yet to complete their reports.
According to Godsey, once police complete their reports, they will be sent to the Humboldt County District Attorney's Office, where prosecuting attorneys will decide whether to file charges against any of the six.
”Right now they're the victims of this crime, so we're not going to talk much about them,” Godsey said. “We're still interviewing them and encouraging them to cooperate.”
By Tuesday afternoon, the body of the deceased man remained inside the Jeep as a team of investigators searched the scene and the roadway. Some officers walked the margins of the highway looking for spent casings and other pieces of evidence. Godsey said the investigation is still in its early stages, and more information will likely be released as the case develops.

 

[poplars]

psh risks and dangers my ASS.

that does NOT cost 150 to every $300 OZ of pot. . . . . . .

I'm totally done with this thread. any points you're going to make now are just based off of illogical nonsense, bullshit here-say.

anyone with a gram of sense knows that weed is not worth as much as it's been crazily overcharged for. you can try to reject the reality for as long as possible, but this bubble will pop and you will be out of a 'job'.

 

[Greyskull]

psh risks and dangers my ASS.

that does NOT cost 150 to every $300 OZ of pot. . . . . . .

I'm totally done with this thread. any points you're going to make now are just based off of illogical nonsense, bullshit here-say.

anyone with a gram of sense knows that weed is not worth as much as it's been crazily overcharged for. you can try to reject the reality for as long as possible, but this bubble will pop and you will be out of a 'job'.

this is like the second time you've been "done" with this thread. silly "threat".

illogical nonsense is saying product X isn't worth $ when clearly the majority of the public has the way opposite perspective.

and if like you say its only gonna last 10 more years, thats 10 more years I don't have to worry about going back to Corporate land & department manager position i left. i am gonna make damn good use of that time. early bird gets the worm!

you must really enjoy sucking on the corporate tit. IS THE MILK GOOD?

i thought it sucked and thats why i turned to cannabis.

 

[Greyskull]

eddy lepp just got sentected to 10 years.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT EDDY LEPP?

 

[weedyoo]

dont know about you but ny is still 100% illegal so their are major risks.

even if the bubble pops people will still buy it.

 

[GuerillaGrow]

it does NOT cost enough to justify those prices. sorry buddy, even if you grow the best shit in the world, you don't have the right to charge that much for it.

nobody does.

Heads up, we've got ourselves a ruler of the free market right here! Watch out, clearly this man is a learned economist!

FAIL.

Weed is $60 per 8th here, almost no exceptions. It WAS $30...A decade ago. Want the best shit in town? Have fun finding it for less than $80.

Prices vary from place to place for pretty much everything. You don't get to dictate what things should cost. All you get to do is be silent and either pay it or don't. The only way to make it go down is by not paying the price. Bitching does not come into the equation, nor does your opinion on what it "should" cost everywhere at any given time.

If the guy wants to sell his shit for $1000/Z, he sure as hell can...Provided he can find someone dumb enough (or desperate enough) to pay it. If he's got some good shit and is only charging $50 per 8th or whatever he said, he would be God around these parts.

 

[dontcopnone]

Give it up guys, he's an ostrich with his head in the dirt.
You're not right I'll prove it by saying the same thing over and over with no facts to back it up.

Like the saying goes, wish in one hand and shit in the other & see which fills up first.

 

[poplars]

or none of you seem to truly understand that ALL you are doing is taking advantage of a black market and your prices will plummet no matter WHAT if it gets legalized.

it's not like cars, where it's actually tough to build and they're worth a lot of money. this is a plant, it's EASY AS FUCK to grow.

do you really think those prices are going to stay up above gold for as long as they have if it's legal? COMMON.

I'm now officially done with this thread, for the 3rd and final time.

I realize that you guys have jobs in this, and that you gave up the general life for it because it's such a ridiculously easy opportunity to jump on.

but just because the demand is ridiculously high now, doesn't mean it will last through the test of legalization. have fun when AB390 passes.

 

[cxt]

While the prices may drop post legalization, it probably will not be because weed is so "easy to grow". Are you (poplars) implying that people will grow their own instead of buying? This will certainly not be the case. Just like with alcohol and tobacco, which are in the same realm of "ease" to produce as quality cannabis, people will not have the time/knowledge/space/funds/will to devote to maintaining a perpetual personal grow. We can already see in California that many people with medical cards who can "easily" grow their own cannabis instead choose to buy from dispensaries for convenience, quality control, and diversity of product. This should remain largely the same in a post-legalization situation. What may change is how/from whom the product is supplied, possibly switching from mostly small/medium commercial grows to large, farm-scale ones.
But even if this happens, and if it causes overall retail price to drop, will that mean that the small/medium scale indoor grower will become obsolete? Not necessarily. If these things happen, there will still probably be a niche for the smaller ops in whatever end of the business the large scale ones cannot cover. SOME people will probably still be able to make a living growing. How many people is a bit of an unknown- it is difficult to tell if/how much the market will convert to a farm-scale production base, and exactly how this may hurt the smaller grower. Personally I think it will end up as a market where medium/high quality generic strains are produced on farms while the unique/extremely high quality are produced by small businesses. This may not leave much for the many small growers making profit now though, so my advice to them would be to be ready to adapt to whatever niche resulting from legal and consequential market changes. Continue perfecting your art, create a unique product, do what you gotta do.

 

[Louis541]

While the prices may drop post legalization, it probably will not be because weed is so "easy to grow". Are you (poplars) implying that people will grow their own instead of buying? This will certainly not be the case. Just like with alcohol and tobacco, which are in the same realm of "ease" to produce as quality cannabis, people will not have the time/knowledge/space/funds/will to devote to maintaining a perpetual personal grow. We can already see in California that many people with medical cards who can "easily" grow their own cannabis instead choose to buy from dispensaries for convenience, quality control, and diversity of product. This will remain largely the same in a post-legalization situation. The only thing that may change is how/from whom the product is supplied, possibly switching from mostly small/medium commercial grows to large, farm-scale ones.
But even if this happens, and if it causes overall retail price to drop, will that mean that the small/medium scale indoor grower will become obsolete? Not necessarily. If these things happen, there will still probably be a niche for the smaller ops in whatever end of the business the large scale ones cannot cover. SOME people will probably still be able to make a living growing. How many people is unknown as it is difficult to tell if/how much the market will convert to a farm-scale production base, and exactly how this may hurt the smaller grower. My personal opinion is that it will end up as a market where medium/high quality generic strains are produced on farms while the unique/extremely high quality are produced by small businesses. This may not leave much for the myriad small growers making profit now though, so my advice to them would be to be ready to adapt to whatever niche resulting from legal and consequential market changes. Continue perfecting your art, create a unique product, do what you gotta do.

Good luck getting permission to grow that shit commercially at home.

 

[cxt]

Good luck getting permission to grow that shit commercially at home.

True, I didn't think about how changing from medical to business status would effect home growing. The small business niche will probably still be there though, people will def. have to adapt.

Why do I get the feeling this has already been discussed to death on the forum....whatever

 

[Louis541]

That's not to say it couldn't be done. I'm pretty sure backwoods hand rolled cigars is a relatively small operation... It just wouldn't be very easy.

 

[Greyskull]

i like what you are saying cxt.

the thing poplars is not minding is TAXES.
when everything is legalized the goverment is going to have their hand in the cookie jar. Something like up to $50 per oz.
you think everyone will keep the pricing the same and give the goverment their chunk, too? HA HA HA
especially not the "specialty guy"...