marijuana and depression

puffpuffPASSEDOUT

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I dont need weed to DO anything, I need weed to keep me from doing things. what have you learned about serotonin?
Dude thats a whole other can of worms.... I cant really remember about what effect weed has on the serotonin levels but what i do know is serotonin is directly related to mood, emotion, sleep, and appetite. ....My educated guess would be that weed or THC used in moderation would help enhance any of the 4. ... but again abuse would alter for the worse. im almost certain.
 
of course weed doesn't cure depression... but it really helps some people with the symptoms.. its more a short term cure i guess but still, that is something good and im very comfortable with it.
no regrets at all
 

dontcopnone

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Dude thats a whole other can of worms.... I cant really remember about what effect weed has on the serotonin levels but what i do know is serotonin is directly related to mood, emotion, sleep, and appetite. ....My educated guess would be that weed or THC used in moderation would help enhance any of the 4. ... but again abuse would alter for the worse. im almost certain.
Try again...

http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/3438.html
Marijuana DOES NOT produce serotonin. However, it does affect a substance in the brain called anandamide. Anandamide causes a soothing sensation in the body when it reacts with THC (tetrahydrocannabinol), the active substance in marijuana.
 

futbol.madrid07

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Last year I was out of control, i was violent, i often got in fights, it tore my relationship apart and nearly my life i ended up in jail for a month and not only that but college football scholarship was revoked from me...i was never the one to smoke much maybe here and their but then i began smoking daily about 5 months after i had gotten out and all the court bs was done and i straightened my life out, I'm not going to say i used it as a crutch because I believe that it helped me put things together where i could think outside the box and outside my own head...I think marijuana can heal the heart and soul in ways people, therapy and time cant...I'm not spiritual type at all but i do believe that smoking can def help a person sort themselves and make their world a much more calmer place...I went from not knowing what I had become to setting my own path again, you don't always need to take the roads people mark out for you because sometimes that path you make yourself can lead you past where others thought you could never return to. My life will def. never be the same after those events but in a way i think it has gotten better. Peace.
 

TeaTreeOil

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THC its self doesnt BUT the effect it has on the brain does. If you dont believe me answer me this... does weed/thc release dopamine naturally? ... nope its a drug. drugs release dopamine and with constant abuse it will weaken the dopamine cycle. Why do you think people who are heavy pot heads need weed to do anything? its becuase when they do something without weed the effect really isnt there. their body/mind/personality is used to the weed supplying the dopamine aka self-medication. ..the same goes for alcohol or anything that can release dopamine un-naturally.

...im not trying to be a dick im just telling it how it really is. I've leaned about this stuff and how the brain works. :joint:
THC has been clinically proven to cause neurogenesis, or in layman terms, the creation of brain cells. And has been proven to not be physically addictive.

Emotionally addictive... definitely, it's a wonderful feeling. More please. It has not been proven to weaken "dopamine cycles".

Please, stop spreading rumors. They help no one.
 

poplars

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exactly, you guys realize the cannabinoid system makes weed work in our system more naturally than ANY DRUG right?

therefore, weed is better for you than any antidepressant I can guarentee you that.

it is NOT weakening your brain, or your dopamine system. don't you think millions of years of evolution would have made a safe way to get high?

yeah, it did, cannabis.


now I personally believe it works wonders for my depression when my tolerance is lower and it actually works.

certain strains do produce better anti-depressant effects. I don't know why so many people seem to believe it doesn't really help or that the effects are bullshit.

you know what's true bullshit, supposed happiness without a high . . . SSRI's.

I've seen more people fucking miserable on SSRI's or just living a live of boring 'grey' living.

idk about you guys, but weed gives life a bright shine in my mind, makes me think everything is better and effectively treats my depression like a medication should.

now this post is up for you guys to debate among yourselves, I'm already convinced of it's antidepressant properties.
 

futbol.madrid07

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i def agree poplars and even the same for certain strains especially heavy sativa strains usually worked the best for me like anything off the haze family tree ha
 

jahman2222

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THC its self doesnt BUT the effect it has on the brain does. If you dont believe me answer me this... does weed/thc release dopamine naturally? ... nope its a drug. drugs release dopamine and with constant abuse it will weaken the dopamine cycle. Why do you think people who are heavy pot heads need weed to do anything? its becuase when they do something without weed the effect really isnt there. their body/mind/personality is used to the weed supplying the dopamine aka self-medication. ..the same goes for alcohol or anything that can release dopamine un-naturally.

...im not trying to be a dick im just telling it how it really is. I've leaned about this stuff and how the brain works. :joint:
The defintion of a drug - "a chemical substance used in the treatment, cure, prevention, or diagnosis of disease or used to otherwise enhance physical or mental well-being."

thc is not a chemical. Its grown in the ground
 

Mysticlown150

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The defintion of a drug - "a chemical substance used in the treatment, cure, prevention, or diagnosis of disease or used to otherwise enhance physical or mental well-being."

thc is not a chemical. Its grown in the ground
Your definition of a drug is pretty spot on but just because something comes from the ground doesn't make it not a drug... Cocaine is damn sure a drug. Also opium is to and that makes some of the hardest drugs on earth (hydrocodone also known as vicoden,oxycodone also known as OC and oxycontin)
 

futbol.madrid07

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mystic, cocaine is chemically altered/purified...cocaine is derived from the coca leaf often used in places like peru, where it has been used for centuries in andean cultures as well as incan culture and peru is where i was introduced to it, they use it to make tea with it when you go from one city to another to establish your body with the elevation change, that's just one the ways they use it...the leaf itself does no wrong just like marijuana, you must add chemicals and purify it to make it the addictive substance it is in the end...
 

Mysticlown150

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mystic, cocaine is chemically altered...cocaine is derived from the coca leaf often used in places like peru where i was introduced to it, to make tea with it when you go from one city to another to establish your body with the elevation change...the leaf itself does no wrong just like marijuana, you must add chemicals to make it the addictive substance it is in the end...
Yea it makes tea but it also can have systemic numbing effects and can be psychoactive. They weren't just using it as lemon tea for grandma ya know...
 

futbol.madrid07

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No i know that but they wernt using it the way its used today and was in no way damaging to the body the way it is today because of the way it has been altered...
 

puffpuffPASSEDOUT

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THC has been clinically proven to cause neurogenesis, or in layman terms, the creation of brain cells. And has been proven to not be physically addictive.

Emotionally addictive... definitely, it's a wonderful feeling. More please. It has not been proven to weaken "dopamine cycles".

Please, stop spreading rumors. They help no one.
Sorry i speak from personal experience. ..If it has happened to me than its happened to someone else. ....Everyone needs to stop thinking MJ is some maricle drug. ALL DRUGS ARE BAD, MJ just happens to be one of the safest to use/self-medicate.
 

puffpuffPASSEDOUT

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exactly, you guys realize the cannabinoid system makes weed work in our system more naturally than ANY DRUG right?

therefore, weed is better for you than any antidepressant I can guarentee you that.

it is NOT weakening your brain, or your dopamine system. don't you think millions of years of evolution would have made a safe way to get high?

yeah, it did, cannabis.
Lol there are only 3 ways of getting high safely.

Sex
Food
Adrenalin rush
 

puffpuffPASSEDOUT

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The defintion of a drug - "a chemical substance used in the treatment, cure, prevention, or diagnosis of disease or used to otherwise enhance physical or mental well-being."

thc is not a chemical. Its grown in the ground
Lol did you know water is a chemical? i think its called H20.... I think this chemical H20 covers 75% of the world... hmmm see where im going with this? :rolleyes:
 
i dont think just because a plant it, it isn't a drug.. opium poppies are a drug, and you dont exacly need to synthesize them or add chemicals, u can just make a tea from the pods and this IS addicting, both physically and mentally... and lasts longer than most of the painkillers (8-10 +hours dependinging on how much you took)
 

poplars

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Lol there are only 3 ways of getting high safely.

Sex
Food
Adrenalin rush
hah wow, I can't believe you actually are trying to believe that cannabis is just as foreign to our bodies as other pharmaceutics and drugs we take.

common man, do you realize that cannabis and humans/animals used to be ONE? they both evolved into different directions, but at one point we both shared a photocannabinoid receptor.

that receptor evolved into our cannabinoid system in our body, which is more beneficial to us than practically any drug on earth. I'm getting sick of people trying to claim it ISN'T anything BUT a miracle drug.

I mean, cannabinoid receptors exist TONS of areas of our body, and you're actually trying to claim it's nothing more than a drug just getting you high?

fuck that bullshit man. it's just as good as we all say it is, and you're the one trying to refuse it.

I can't believe this crap, you guys, CANNABIS IS NOT LIKE OTHER DRUGS. it's safer than most FOOD you eat. and it's almost as natural to your body as adrenaline.

seriously stop kidding yourselves here, there's countless amounts of research to prove that cannabis is truly a miracle to our existence.
 

danksmoker77

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puffpuff whats the deal man it sounds to me like your dissin the herb. Man I can tell all of you from hardcore personal experience that weed has worked exceptionally well to combat depression. I have tried many of the prescription remedies with no good results. The stuff like prozac and such keep oyu from being depressed but dont really allow you to be happy. Marijuana takes away my depression and still allows me to be happy. On a whole other level the weed also keeeps me off the hard core drugs. But it has to be good weed. When I smoke good "medical grade" weed I have no thoughts about other drugs I am perfectly content. Weed has been a miracle drug for me and to say it is not a miracle drug is just absurd. Many Many people rely on marijuana for the miracle benefits it provides. Please dont talk negatively about marijuana.
 
yeah exacly, as least you KNOW what your getting with weed. weed is made by planting a seed into the soil, and then voila,you have marijuana...
how are prescription drugs made? im very curious to see how they are actually made and what they are made of.
homeopathic remedies all the way:)
 
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