problems with my hijack

[gogrow]

i've got three hijack ladies going at the moment.... all started at the same age, all get the same nutrient/water..... the only difference between the three is one of them, (the healthy one) started life under 24hr cfl lighting inside, and the other 2 have lived thier whole lives outside.... as of a few weeks ago, they have all been outside 24/7...

the 2 that started outside started to bud, and then went back to veg after a week or two, (hence the single-bladed oak leaves)... since the whole revert process, they have been noticeably lighter green than the other one. they have been fed more than i usually would, yet it seems to get no better.... i know from fdd that hijack can be a nutrient hog, but the other plant is doing fine, i cant see giving these two any more for now....

i get home today to find that instead of looking better since feeding, now the leaves have a mottled look to them, and light brown areas in them... along with a couple of burnt tips.... im starting to think i may have some kind of ph/salt buildup issue, or maybe the hijack reacts to over-nuting differently than the other plants i have grown....

here are some pics..... first one is the healthy plant, rest are the problems.... any help here??

 

[CrackerJax]

So far I'm leaning towards manganese deficiency or lock out. PH is also possible, they look so similar. Read this thread and see if you agree with the manganese....

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688

 

[gogrow]

So far I'm leaning towards manganese deficiency or lock out. PH is also possible, they look so similar. Read this thread and see if you agree with the manganese....

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688

i've got my wife picking up some epsom salt in case.... surely couldnt hurt right?

 

[KaliKitsune]

I'm not surprised your indoor CFL moved outdoor is darker and healthier looking than the outdoor plants. I found that my indoor hydro stuff looks far better than the outdoor soil mothers they came from originally.

This looks like the roots are suffocating or manganese deficient. No epsom salts needed here - the giveaway for magnesium and iron lock/def is interveinal chlorosis. This is more necrosis, so it's either suffocating or there is a lack of manganese.

 

[Defcon9]

One of my bag seeds that I grew indoors looked just like that. I think it was over fert. I flushed it and it seemed to help. I also lowered the nute strength when adding it and slowly started to increase strength again. Before going to far try flushing. 3 gallons of water to every gallon of your pot size. Start with that so you have a good start then go from there so you can at least not do more damage than good. Good luck.

 

[KaliKitsune]

Another resource I direct you to (and encourage you to bookmark,) is http://www.greenmanspage.com/guides/tables.html

 

[fdd2blk]

needs more nitrogen.

 

[FilthyFletch]

I am gonna go with fdds suggestion maybe a ph issue comning on also?

 

[UserFriendly]

I think that they stopped up-taking nitrogen when they went to flower and now that they're vegging again, they don't have reserves to go to. Maybe subsequent waterings has leeched nitrogen from the soil and there isn't much available to them right now.

 

[gogrow]

needs more nitrogen.

more???..... they have been fed so frequently already.... thats why im leaning toward sometype of burn or lockout..... we will see.... they are flushing in a downpour right now, if it is worse tomorrow, then more food the greedy girls get....

I am gonna go with fdds suggestion maybe a ph issue comning on also?

if so, this will be the FIRST time i have ever had to bother with my ph.... which is why im inclined to believe that isnt the issue.....

 

[fdd2blk]

whatever.

 

[gogrow]

whatever.

hey now.... im gonna heed your advice and feed em.... just cant do it now, its monsoon-ing outside

 

[fdd2blk]

hey now.... im gonna heed your advice and feed em.... just cant do it now, its monsoon-ing outside

hehehhehehehehhe. tell it to stop.


i don't tell people this because it gets them/me in trouble, .............. sometimes i double dose 2 or 3 waterings in a row. sssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[gogrow]

hehehhehehehehhe. tell it to stop.


i don't tell people this because it gets them/me in trouble, .............. sometimes i double dose 2 or 3 waterings in a row. sssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

they have been fed for 3straight waterings now... when will it stop

im gonna let this rain pass, and i'll hit em up in the morning....

 

[KaliKitsune]

I'm still leaning towards the micronute issue, myself, after hearing more about your watering and feeding, and less towards your roots suffocating.

 

[gogrow]

I'm still leaning towards the micronute issue, myself, after hearing more about your watering and feeding, and less towards your roots suffocating.

srry... didnt mean to ignore your input.... im fairly certain that they do need a little epsom, but i think that is a more recent issue, and not what is causing the constant lime-green... but the mottled look (chlorosis) from the last day or so, definately looks like a micro problem....

definately dont think it is from a lack of oxygen to the roots.. the soil is really light and airy.... dries out and drains too quickly to be suffocating the roots... but it does have ALOT more plant material (wood chips, etc...) than the mixes i normally use....

could that be causing the soil to take up less nutes than i am used to?? thus causing me to have to feed even more??...... just a thought

 

[fdd2blk]

it's hijack, it's hungry.

that's all i know.

micro what? sounds small. ;/

 

[gogrow]

it's hijack, it's hungry.

that's all i know.

micro what? sounds small. ;/

and it will be fed..... ordering some of this tomorrow

 

[KaliKitsune]

srry... didnt mean to ignore your input.... im fairly certain that they do need a little epsom, but i think that is a more recent issue, and not what is causing the constant lime-green... but the mottled look (chlorosis) from the last day or so, definately looks like a micro problem....

definately dont think it is from a lack of oxygen to the roots.. the soil is really light and airy.... dries out and drains too quickly to be suffocating the roots... but it does have ALOT more plant material (wood chips, etc...) than the mixes i normally use....

could that be causing the soil to take up less nutes than i am used to?? thus causing me to have to feed even more??...... just a thought

Wood - there's one problem. Robs you of nitrogen and micronutrients. Any soil I've used with wood in it has caused stunted growth of most any plant I've ever grown.

 

[gogrow]

Wood - there's one problem. Robs you of nitrogen and micronutrients. Any soil I've used with wood in it has caused stunted growth of most any plant I've ever grown.

its from a load of "garden soil" i had leftover from a job..... cant beat free...