Oil Companies Are Using a Simple Trick to Bilk Consumers out of Billions

medicineman

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hahahaha ...

Doncha just love it when debates end like that?

Vi

PS: Nice job, May ... :)
Is this guy braindead, MAY, I've posted exactly in opposition to right wing neo-cons ever since I've been on this site, just goes to show that he's never read a post of mine. The reason we ordered gas for nightly deliveries was that we got more to sell, (Minimal at best, but they were loading the trucks out of above ground tanks, so at 3 am, the fuel was denser), not to fuck the public. The average guy thinks station operators are raping the public. our average mark-up on a gallon was between 8-10 cents, you've got to sell a lot of gallons to pay the overhead, the rent alone was 1700.00, the power bill was between 6-8 hundred, the help was 4,000, not counting all the other fees and taxes. We had to sell 70-80K gallons to break even, and that was hard to do.
 

medicineman

New Member
How Much is your transportation cost Med? Or is it included in on your wholesale price?
Wholesale price. The major refiners hold all the cards on gas pricing. They would come out and try and get us to lower the price. I'd say yup, just as soon as you lower the price to me. they were always trying to get the dealers to work on lower margins, They were hoping you'd go bankrupt and leave the station. They had arabs with big kickback coin waiting to take over your station. This was proven in a lawsuit with a dealer against Unocal, the company we were with, in fact it was our district manager (The same guy that was always trying to get us to lower our price) that was found to have been taking kickbacks from arabs. We got lucky and sold to a white guy and got out with a small profit, that poor guy was put through the ringer and went belly up. In fact, we lost 35K on the back end of the deal, but didn't pursue him as we actually had a conscience. Oh yeah, an Arab took over.
 

ViRedd

New Member
What you really needed Med, was a professional salesman working at your station. He would have made you a fortune selling TBA. Of course, you would have had to pay that professional salesman his "blood sucking" commissions. ~lol~

Vi
 

medicineman

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What you really needed Med, was a professional salesman working at your station. He would have made you a fortune selling TBA. Of course, you would have had to pay that professional salesman his "blood sucking" commissions. ~lol~

Vi
We had a neighborhood station. We dealt mostly with senior citizens and they, as you must know, see right through sleazy hard sell assholes. I sold my fair shair of TBA, in fact in a competition of tire sales, I won an all expense paid trip to Tahiti for my wife and I. And that was only selling tires to people that really needed them. I worked with the hard sell sleazes in Vegas at the highest selling TBA unit in Unocal, watched them cheat the customers, and actually have contests among themselves on who could take off the best set of tires in a shift. Hell I rode on take-offs for 8 frickin years, I was just a mechanic, an honest one that made the company and I money, good money. A sleaze I'll call jack, had a contest with a buddy in reno on the best take -off, The guy in reno put a full set on the car, the lady drove the car to vegas, came in the station and Jack sold her a new set, all 4, told her the ones she had were the cheap ones and were prone to blowouts and sold her 4- 5 star tires, didn't bother to tell her the ones she had were still under warranty, a true sleaze, I think those were the ones I put on my 84 olds. Now tell me, was that the kind of guy you were recommending?
 

ViRedd

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We had a neighborhood station. We dealt mostly with senior citizens and they, as you must know, see right through sleazy hard sell assholes. I sold my fair shair of TBA, in fact in a competition of tire sales, I won an all expense paid trip to Tahiti for my wife and I. And that was only selling tires to people that really needed them. I worked with the hard sell sleazes in Vegas at the highest selling TBA unit in Unocal, watched them cheat the customers, and actually have contests among themselves on who could take off the best set of tires in a shift. Hell I rode on take-offs for 8 frickin years, I was just a mechanic, an honest one that made the company and I money, good money. A sleaze I'll call jack, had a contest with a buddy in reno on the best take -off, The guy in reno put a full set on the car, the lady drove the car to vegas, came in the station and Jack sold her a new set, all 4, told her the ones she had were the cheap ones and were prone to blowouts and sold her 4- 5 star tires, didn't bother to tell her the ones she had were still under warranty, a true sleaze, I think those were the ones I put on my 84 olds. Now tell me, was that the kind of guy you were recommending?
No, I said a PROFESSIONAL salesman, Med. Professional sales people are not con men. A professional NEVER does anything that does not benefit the customer/client. You see ... when people are treated professionally and fairly, they send you their friends ... the friends send friends, and those friends of friends send friends as well. The con men are run out of town. Professionals make their employers rich by giving the customers exactly what THEY want. The professionals make a great living too, Med ... because they DESERVE IT...!!! Big difference, no? :blsmoke:

Vi
 

medicineman

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No, I said a PROFESSIONAL salesman, Med. Professional sales people are not con men. A professional NEVER does anything that does not benefit the customer/client. You see ... when people are treated professionally and fairly, they send you their friends ... the friends send friends, and those friends of friends send friends as well. The con men are run out of town. Professionals make their employers rich by giving the customers exactly what THEY want. The professionals make a great living too, Med ... because they DESERVE IT...!!! Big difference, no? :blsmoke:

Vi
I already had one of those VI, me.
 

ViRedd

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I already had one of those VI, me.
Not good enough, evidently.

You should have paid a bloodsucking, commissioned professional to make you a fortune. But with your attitude toward sales people, you'd probably look at the amount THEY were making and just figure they were stealing from you.

Vi
 

medicineman

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Not good enough, evidently.

You should have paid a bloodsucking, commissioned professional to make you a fortune. But with your attitude toward sales people, you'd probably look at the amount THEY were making and just figure they were stealing from you.

Vi
Uhhhh, did you miss the part where I won an all expense paid trip to Tahiti from Unocal for TBA sales, and the part where I sold The Business for a small profit. I guess if your not you, then your not a success. VI, every endeavor I've ever been in I've made the best of what I was dealt and so I consider my life successful. Because you must have such low self esteem, you judge everyone by some standard you obviously failed to meet. Lighten up man, Life is short.
 

ViRedd

New Member
OK now Vi Claims to know how run a gas station. :rolleyes:
Actually, Dankster ... and you too Med ....

I worked at a gas station on a part time basis for a time. In fact, a friend and I started working there part time just to help a friend out who was trying to get his station going. Both my friend and I had previous sales experience and we made a concerted effort to see what we could do with the friend's station. I won't go into details, but it was quite mind-boggling. The station owner would watch us and just shake his head in disbelief. It was so much fun. I've got some real nice memories from that little excursion. Let's just say that the TBA went flying out the door.

Med ... I actually respect your efforts. The gas station business is kinda like the restaurant business. The general public has no conception about how hard it is to be a success in those businesses.

Vi
 

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
Just because you worked at a gas station part time doesn't mean you know how to run it from front to back. That is where you are full of shit. I too have worked at a gas station a couple of times, but that doesn't mean I know how to run one from front to back.... Med has it over you on this one... give it up Vi. Your beaten.
 

shamegame

Well-Known Member
You guys argue more than a room full of bored housewives.:mrgreen:
Here is how I scored the fight:

Dankdude: +250 -150 = 100pts.
VI: +150 - 100 = 50pts.
Med:+225 - 125 = 100pts.
May: +250 - 125 = 125pts. ***WINNER***
 

soto88

Active Member
Here's a clue, buy your gas early in the morning, or late at night. In Vegas, you should buy your gas just before sunrise as that is the coolest part of the day.
Boy does it get hot out here.Did you here the thunder last night?Anyways I think gas prices are horrible but you gotta do what u gotta do.
 

medicineman

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Boy does it get hot out here.Did you here the thunder last night?Anyways I think gas prices are horrible but you gotta do what u gotta do.
.Well as summers go, it was a fairly mild one, in the 1990s there were a few much worse, some days around 120 and quite a few over 115, in the shade, ~LOL~.
 

ViRedd

New Member
Hey Dank ...

Are you sure you didn't own an entire chain of award winning gas stations? I mean in your spare time between attending medical school, chemistry classes and working in the Pacific Northwest as a bonifide lumber jack and then working in the Mojave Desert as the driver of a Borax twenty-mule team?? :blsmoke:

Vi
 

Dankdude

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Vi I'll be in California next summer, I can provide my transcripts. How about you? How much education do you have?
 
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