SIMPSONSAMPSONs soon-to-be-but-not-quite-there-but-will-be-soon 4000w journal

[tilemaster]

i havent had any problem like u say burning my plants w/ the insert glass...however i dont keep them as close as i would like to since there not daisy chained to air cool. if i could get it cool enough too the touch...(the hood) i would keep my lamps 6-10inches..im workn on that...

 

[simpsonsampson420]

Do you guys have your medical scripts???damn thats cold, it only gets as low as like 50 here, and 110 in the summer, its already been 100 here! i have a 1/4 acre in my backyard so i might throw a few clones out there so i can get some cash this november! i found out im not moving yet until maybe the beginning of next year, so i will stay here this summer so i might as well throw some outdoors and get some 3lb plants! the biggest cola i trimmd up last year was about the size of my arm and as fat as my thigh! they were vegged up to about 3 feet adn then thrown out side so i tihnk thats why they ended up yielding so much ea and getting so big, anyway your colas look real nice sampson, thats cool looking how there starting to turn purp, keep it up u can wait another week lol thats gonna be some doity, im gonna have to buy a sampler pack from ya

i wish i they had licenses around hear to give...

thanks for the compliment on the colas bro.. they are fattening up nicely.. i am def gonna hold out for another week.. im hoping thats long enough.. i cant let them go much past that.. have some deadlines i need to hit...

Fuck SS i might jsut have to go with the 4'' extrasun hoods for this next round..i already got them..so its a no brainer..i just wanted the 6''s so i could really move some air..see the extrasun hoods have chessy glass in them and there not air tight..still can daisy chain them with 4'' flex..but the extrasun6inchers..have a sealed panel and cord set..wuz checking them out 2day..but shit..maybe i can just run the 4 '' daisy chain for now with the portable a/c and make due..for 1 more run..got some work done..check it in my journal..PeacE.

if you can do it with the 4" and the portable a/c then that still works out.. it would be nice if the 6" would work well enough you could ditch the a/c all together... i hope the 4" does it for ya tho.. that would be nice...

you guys don'thave any problems with the light magnifing threw the glass. i hear from my lighting supplyshop that yourmore prone to burn the plants threw the glass. have you noticed any burninglike this.

i havent heard anything about this.. it makes sense tho.. i wil definatly keep an eye on things when we get there...

i havent had any problem like u say burning my plants w/ the insert glass...however i dont keep them as close as i would like to since there not daisy chained to air cool. if i could get it cool enough too the touch...(the hood) i would keep my lamps 6-10inches..im workn on that...

im hoping to keep the 1000w's cool enough to keep them under a foot myself...

 

[simpsonsampson420]

whens my damn green squares gonna go up?!?!?

 

[mygirls]

i havent had any problem like u say burning my plants w/ the insert glass...however i dont keep them as close as i would like to since there not daisy chained to air cool. if i could get it cool enough too the touch...(the hood) i would keep my lamps 6-10inches..im workn on that...

hell with the setup i have i can get my plants right up in that big ass hood w/ the 1000wtt light. if i didn't have that fan hanging right at the light and plant hight ithe heat wouldmost deffanetly smoke the shit out of my girls thats for sure.

 

[simpsonsampson420]

hell with the setup i have i can get my plants right up in that big ass hood w/ the 1000wtt light. if i didn't have that fan hanging right at the light and plant hight ithe heat wouldmost deffanetly smoke the shit out of my girls thats for sure.

now thats what im talkin about.. im hoping that i can get somewhere around that.. maybe not so much so the girls are inside the reflectors... LOL but close enough.. its just hard for me to picture or imagine right now because i have never used that large of an HPS before.. seen a 400w grow up close.. but thats it... just have to wait and see for myself!! but that is crazy shit MG.. that close without burning!?!? now that is impressive my friend..

 

[tilemaster]

Jack said he gets those 4 x1000watters so cool he can touch the hood with no ill effects..if thats the case they could probably ride right on ur canopy.

 

[mygirls]

i can touch my 4ft hood. as long as you can blow that heat away from the plants be4 it get to themyouwillbe i great shape. gight now my ty stickis richt therealmost up in the hood. still have the purdy white hairs on them..

morning guys how thinks 2day.

 

[tilemaster]

McChilln...gotta sheetrock that room 2day..im watchn my 3yearold...im gonna have to go get a buddy..cause my boy cant help me stock sheetrock quiet yet...

 

[mygirls]

McChilln...gotta sheetrock that room 2day..im watchn my 3yearold...im gonna have to go get a buddy..cause my boy cant help me stock sheetrock quiet yet...

i have my 4 year old nephew and i get him to help me. he hold the tape messure and snaps the chalk line. quite the little helper. he wants to do every think his unckl jeff does. LOL

 

[slipperyP]

i have my 4 year old nephew and i get him to help me. he hold the tape messure and snaps the chalk line. quite the little helper. he wants to do every think his unckl jeff does. LOL

LOL...I came home one day and my son was ph testing his green tea...and Taking the PPM's...I told him....I know your not just dipping the meter in the tea...I stick that in all kinds of shit....He was like,,,Um..yeah i put it in a cup...

I have been keeping the 600 watter about 11 inches away...I actually think i could get closer, but i think it is at a good height.

 

[simpsonsampson420]

Jack said he gets those 4 x1000watters so cool he can touch the hood with no ill effects..if thats the case they could probably ride right on ur canopy.

well that makes me very hopefull then... im sure i wont have any problems.. that will def. be my goal...

i can touch my 4ft hood. as long as you can blow that heat away from the plants be4 it get to themyouwillbe i great shape. gight now my ty stickis richt therealmost up in the hood. still have the purdy white hairs on them..

morning guys how thinks 2day.

mornin MG.. things are great today.. and yourself??

all the heat from the lights is going to be exhausted outside of the grow room itself.. so if thats all i need to do to keep them cool i'll be just fine!

McChilln...gotta sheetrock that room 2day..im watchn my 3yearold...im gonna have to go get a buddy..cause my boy cant help me stock sheetrock quiet yet...

your gonna have a very clean setup.. the work is well worth it...

i have my 4 year old nephew and i get him to help me. he hold the tape messure and snaps the chalk line. quite the little helper. he wants to do every think his unckl jeff does. LOL

LOL...I came home one day and my son was ph testing his green tea...and Taking the PPM's...I told him....I know your not just dipping the meter in the tea...I stick that in all kinds of shit....He was like,,,Um..yeah i put it in a cup...

I have been keeping the 600 watter about 11 inches away...I actually think i could get closer, but i think it is at a good height.

kids are funny.. im glad i dont have any myself.. but growing up my mom ran a day care so i was around them all the time.. and pretty much raised my nieces for my sister... funny story for ya.. my buddy came up to visit and brought his daughter, which is my god daughter.. she's 2 1/2.. so she's talkin away... well she watches my buddy clear my bong and asks in all seriousousness "daddy, are you thirsty?".. guess she thought it was like a big straw or something.. well we all laughed and he said no.. heres where it gets really funny.. she watched him chalk it full again and clear it.. it was a fresh bowl so the bong was nice and white with smoke so you could see it rise as it cleared.. well she just thought that was the coolest shit.. she started clapping and saying "do it again do it again"...

 

[slipperyP]

well that makes me very hopefull then... im sure i wont have any problems.. that will def. be my goal...



mornin MG.. things are great today.. and yourself??

all the heat from the lights is going to be exhausted outside of the grow room itself.. so if thats all i need to do to keep them cool i'll be just fine!



your gonna have a very clean setup.. the work is well worth it...







kids are funny.. im glad i dont have any myself.. but growing up my mom ran a day care so i was around them all the time.. and pretty much raised my nieces for my sister... funny story for ya.. my buddy came up to visit and brought his daughter, which is my god daughter.. she's 2 1/2.. so she's talkin away... well she watches my buddy clear my bong and asks in all seriousousness "daddy, are you thirsty?".. guess she thought it was like a big straw or something.. well we all laughed and he said no.. heres where it gets really funny.. she watched him chalk it full again and clear it.. it was a fresh bowl so the bong was nice and white with smoke so you could see it rise as it cleared.. well she just thought that was the coolest shit.. she started clapping and saying "do it again do it again"...

lol...too funny......

 

[tilemaster]

ya my son just turned 3..i started smoking away from himm....cause he thinks its funny cigs..but he starts flappn his arms around at pretend smoke when he see's any clouds of smoke perminating from my mouth...its funny shit..but know he's gettn to that age..where im gonna only smoke in the grage

 

[slipperyP]

ya my son just turned 3..i started smoking away from himm....cause he thinks its funny cigs..but he starts flappn his arms around at pretend smoke when he see's any clouds of smoke perminating from my mouth...its funny shit..but know he's gettn to that age..where im gonna only smoke in the grage

I smoke away from mine also...they know but they don't know how to do a bong hit...I dont think anyway? I dosent take a genius to figure it out.

 

[simpsonsampson420]

ya my son just turned 3..i started smoking away from himm....cause he thinks its funny cigs..but he starts flappn his arms around at pretend smoke when he see's any clouds of smoke perminating from my mouth...its funny shit..but know he's gettn to that age..where im gonna only smoke in the grage

I smoke away from mine also...they know but they don't know how to do a bong hit...I dont think anyway? I dosent take a genius to figure it out.

yeah.. it sketches me out smoking around kids for sure.. i always put my shit up when friends with kids come over... it just amazes me how many of my friends dont care about it... their five year olds running around while we are passing a blunt.. i guess they arent my kids so what they do is on them... but i am sure when i have kids about the time they are 2 or 3 is the time daddy starts smoking somewhere else... behind locked doors...

 

[slipperyP]

yeah.. it sketches me out smoking around kids for sure.. i always put my shit up when friends with kids come over... it just amazes me how many of my friends dont care about it... their five year olds running around while we are passing a blunt.. i guess they arent my kids so what they do is on them... but i am sure when i have kids about the time they are 2 or 3 is the time daddy starts smoking somewhere else... behind locked doors...

I accidently blew a big bong hit on a kid....Not used to them being around....

 

[JACKMAYOFFER]

well that makes me very hopefull then... im sure i wont have any problems.. that will def. be my goal...

mornin MG.. things are great today.. and yourself??

all the heat from the lights is going to be exhausted outside of the grow room itself.. so if thats all i need to do to keep them cool i'll be just fine!



your gonna have a very clean setup.. the work is well worth it...







kids are funny.. im glad i dont have any myself.. but growing up my mom ran a day care so i was around them all the time.. and pretty much raised my nieces for my sister... funny story for ya.. my buddy came up to visit and brought his daughter, which is my god daughter.. she's 2 1/2.. so she's talkin away... well she watches my buddy clear my bong and asks in all seriousousness "daddy, are you thirsty?".. guess she thought it was like a big straw or something.. well we all laughed and he said no.. heres where it gets really funny.. she watched him chalk it full again and clear it.. it was a fresh bowl so the bong was nice and white with smoke so you could see it rise as it cleared.. well she just thought that was the coolest shit.. she started clapping and saying "do it again do it again"...

Yep thats exacatly what I can do I could put my face on my 1000w and I feel no heat and thats only air from the attic..

 

[simpsonsampson420]

I accidently blew a big bong hit on a kid....Not used to them being around....

thats funny.. not really.. but it is.. know what i mean?? it is hard to adjust to kids when your not used to having them around... it takes me a minute if i visit my nieces or friends visit or whatever...

Yep thats exacatly what I can do I could put my face on my 1000w and I feel no heat and thats only air from the attic..

alright... here is how my set up will be... first the room size that my 4x1000s will be in is 1/3 of the square footage as your room.. so that in and of itself concerns me... but... ill have 4 reflectors with 6" open flanges.. the two back reflectors will connect to the front reflectors... there might be a 3 ft gap between the back and front.. the front two reflectors will connect to a 6x6x10 Y-splitter.. the 10" side of the splitter will have a 12" duct attached to it that will attach to a 12" 1100 cfm fan which will be exhausted out of the room... the back reflectors will have 6" intake spots where the open flange is so there will be plenty of air movement.. the relfectors themselves have glass that forms an air tight seal so ill get good movement with the fan... the air that will be cooling them will be pulled from the room... do you think this will keep them and my room cool enough?? its only 63 sqft.. 7x9 approx.. i know its hard saying because there are still some unknown variables.. but just from a stand point of keeping the lights cool do you think that setup will work.. heres a nice kindergarten sketch of the layout so you can get a better idea of what i mean... thanks for the input...

 

[tilemaster]

I think your gonna need to be pulling cool air thro the hoods..so youll wanna hook your open ends up to a intake ........hell maybe a 12'' fan will do it passivly..but if you could have that fan pulling intake air over your hoods and then out..that would be the ticket

 

[Sure Shot]

thats funny.. not really.. but it is.. know what i mean?? it is hard to adjust to kids when your not used to having them around... it takes me a minute if i visit my nieces or friends visit or whatever...



alright... here is how my set up will be... first the room size that my 4x1000s will be in is 1/3 of the square footage as your room.. so that in and of itself concerns me... but... ill have 4 reflectors with 6" open flanges.. the two back reflectors will connect to the front reflectors... there might be a 3 ft gap between the back and front.. the front two reflectors will connect to a 6x6x10 Y-splitter.. the 10" side of the splitter will have a 12" duct attached to it that will attach to a 12" 1100 cfm fan which will be exhausted out of the room... the back reflectors will have 6" intake spots where the open flange is so there will be plenty of air movement.. the relfectors themselves have glass that forms an air tight seal so ill get good movement with the fan... the air that will be cooling them will be pulled from the room... do you think this will keep them and my room cool enough?? its only 63 sqft.. 7x9 approx.. i know its hard saying because there are still some unknown variables.. but just from a stand point of keeping the lights cool do you think that setup will work.. heres a nice kindergarten sketch of the layout so you can get a better idea of what i mean... thanks for the input...

I've run a similar setup before.
Here's my advice.
Push air over your lights instead of pulling it.(Your fan will thank you)
I used a 8"Vortex fan inside of a 14" flexduct.
Then I used a 14x8x8 Y adapter. After the Y I used the two 8" ducts with reducers to cool 2 lights a piece.
Then exhausted into the attic.
On top of that I had a Portable A/C to keep temps inline.
As well as oscillating fans and a small fan pulling air off the ground and up to the ceiling.
This was a very costly operation!
I was pulling about 6kwh in just my grow room!

I have now moved away from that design in favor of 600w'ers!!
They are by far the best way to go.
A 600w bulb can be put closer to a plant then a 1000w bulb.
And at 2ft. distance a 600w way outperforms a 1000w at 3ft away!
And 2 600w covers 6x3 @ 1.2kwh while 1000w covers 4x4 @ 1.0kwh.

So instead of getting 4 1000w to cover roughly 8x8.
You should get 6 600w and cover roughly 9x6.
4-1000w = 4.0 kwh
6-600w = 3.6 kwh

With 6 6's I would recommend using 1 fan for each set of 3.