Organic Montana Medical Grow

tilemaster

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damn just peepedl the 3lamps air cool setup...i like ..other than the hoods make u really work for it with daisychain'n them.. but either way clean job..if u can maintain temps ur girls are gonna love that bright ass room..
 

MyGTO2007

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damn just peepedl the 3lamps air cool setup...i like ..other than the hoods make u really work for it with daisychain'n them.. but either way clean job..if u can maintain temps ur girls are gonna love that bright ass room..
whats daisychain'n them
Im using the easy glider cables.....their badass. they go up and down very easy.from Hydrofarm...............them sun yoyo fuckers suck!!!!
 

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MyGTO2007

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planet natural has a red hanna ph digi in stock for 99ea. they dont do ppm.ec. that unit that does both is over 2bills.. i dont think ur plants are doing bad a bit..rh is overly dry here once again..so u might c some crispinness or dryer looking leaves if fans are directly on the foliage..i notice that and im ur nieghbor.. decifincies smicincies.. give them a 1/4 dose of wut ur bottles say and not that often..like everyother watering or every 3rd.. theyll grow out of it. ec readings are the salt content of ur waters..with a meter u can figure out wut ur natural ppm is off ur tap and then take readings after adding nutes ..and then u can bump them in bloom , work your way up.. im not working with that tool yet. i must for hydro resoviors
i use a filter system......is the ppm and the ec really that important is soil ????
and do PLANET NATURAL sell the calibration liquid and the cleaner and the stuff to store it ? read post #253 Emailed the guy @ hanna and thats what he sent me !!he said thats why people have a hard time with their meters cause they dont take of them!!
 

tilemaster

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ya they have the calibrating solution on hand.. i did see a new model on youtube, that is self calibrating...but my unit is pretty easy too...

as far as daisy chaining them thats just the concept of running multiple lamps together with one end exhausting and the other bringing in air for the hoods.. alot of hoods have 2 4'' or 6'' circular holes on both sides of the hoods..makes it alittle easier to "chain " together, but i like how u got it to go with ur custom venting..same thing really, i wuz just sayin i didnt like the top hole vent on ur hoods.
 

MyGTO2007

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hey guys Do i really need a meter that does ec,tds,and all that bullshit or can i get away with just buying one that just does PH????
Im getting Frustrated trying to pick one out !!!!hurry fast !!!
 

jigfresh

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hey guys Do i really need a meter that does ec,tds,and all that bullshit or can i get away with just buying one that just does PH????
Im getting Frustrated trying to pick one out !!!!hurry fast !!!
You don't really need a pH meter. All you really need is light, water, and soil. Everything else just grows better pot and puts you more in charge.

The grow I'm doing now, I have not measured pH or ppm for over a month, everything is fine. In fact I have only measured the pH and ppm once for the entire grow. You don't Need them. But they help.
 

jigfresh

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Without a ppm meter you really have no idea how much nutrients you are feeding the plants, just vague guesses.
 

cruzer101

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Hey GTO,

OK I will try and help but like Jig, I am a hydro guy.

From what I understand most nutrient def. are caused by two things. One, there are no nutes or two, the plant can not use the nutes.
You have stated you are in FF soil right? Well they make a couple. If you got Ocean forest then that isn't the deal. You got enough nutes for plants that size. That means your plants can not use whats there.

Here is what I would do. I would go to the nearest pool supply place and get a Ph test kit. Not the strips, the type where you take a sample of the water and put drops in it so it changes color and you compare it to the chart. Like $15 for the kit and some up and down.

Then I would get some 5 gallon bottles of distilled water and water the plant until the water dripped out the bottom. I would take a sample of that run off water and check the pH.

Then I would pH adjust the rest of the distilled water (my guess would be to 6,0) and flush the plant. I would stop feeding it for a week or so and start back with half as much as I was using. (if any) Ocean Forest is nutrient rich.

I am not sure but I don't think you need nutes until you flower with that. You may want to consider transplanting, keeping the ocean forest in the upper root system but neutral mix under that and slip in a feed tube. That way you can feed the roots the flowering nutrients directly.

Sorry for rambling, I think your problem is your Ph is too high.

Good luck man.
 

MyGTO2007

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Hey GTO,

OK I will try and help but like Jig, I am a hydro guy.

From what I understand most nutrient def. are caused by two things. One, there are no nutes or two, the plant can not use the nutes.
You have stated you are in FF soil right? Well they make a couple. If you got Ocean forest then that isn't the deal. You got enough nutes for plants that size. That means your plants can not use whats there.

Here is what I would do. I would go to the nearest pool supply place and get a Ph test kit. Not the strips, the type where you take a sample of the water and put drops in it so it changes color and you compare it to the chart. Like $15 for the kit and some up and down.

Then I would get some 5 gallon bottles of distilled water and water the plant until the water dripped out the bottom. I would take a sample of that run off water and check the pH.

Then I would pH adjust the rest of the distilled water (my guess would be to 6,0) and flush the plant. I would stop feeding it for a week or so and start back with half as much as I was using. (if any) Ocean Forest is nutrient rich.

I am not sure but I don't think you need nutes until you flower with that. You may want to consider transplanting, keeping the ocean forest in the upper root system but neutral mix under that and slip in a feed tube. That way you can feed the roots the flowering nutrients directly.

Sorry for rambling, I think your problem is your Ph is too high.

Good luck man.
thanks for all the help........been looking shit up since they started getting sick......... i flushed and seems to be doing fine....i wasnt as bad as i thought. i just freeked out !!
 

largebudda

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A PPM meter tests to see what the parts permillion of what ever is in a liquid. In the beginning you can flood you nutes and see what the PPM is before you plant. Then as the plants get older you can flood till you get about a 1/4cup of run off out of the bottom and know how much your ladies are eating. I did it with some ladies in 3 gallon bags and figure out when they were eatting or just drinking.
 

MyGTO2007

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well i thought they were doing fine!!! Im about ready to give up....... I left for 3 days came back a my plants were all fucked up , one plant had 10 large fan leaves were all crispy burnt looking and all curled up.... and plus they needed watered......what the fuck...........anybody wanna buy a ROOM!!!
 

tahoe58

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hey man ..... shits gonna happen .... the difference is ..... in how you deal with it. Take stock of what ya got, whats good, and what might best change. then take the first step forward. Its all good in the end, or it ain't the end yet. Walking On!!~~
 

notoriousb

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let's see some pictures of them GTO. I've seen some pretty down and out plants that have made full comebacks to produce nice delicious nugs
so don't get too down on yourself man, there's still hope :weed:
 

tahoe58

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:peace:hey GTO ..... what the bear packing the shovel said ...... there's a suitable path forward. there is always hope for recovery.
 

g00sEgg

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let's see some pictures of them GTO. I've seen some pretty down and out plants that have made full comebacks to produce nice delicious nugs
so don't get too down on yourself man, there's still hope :weed:
What he said...
Never give up man...you learn from your mistakes...mistakes now will make your next grow that much better.

Cheer up bro. :bigjoint:
 

motorboater

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well i thought they were doing fine!!! Im about ready to give up....... I left for 3 days came back a my plants were all fucked up , one plant had 10 large fan leaves were all crispy burnt looking and all curled up.... and plus they needed watered......what the fuck...........anybody wanna buy a ROOM!!!
:bigjoint:

of course id like a room, but i need a different house
 
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