There Is No Devil.

[jenni8675309]

I have given proof upon proof. atleast 10 different sources.

You have only given me the Essene & Scholars who discredit Josephus. And I proved that both of your sources are bogus

Why cant you admit it?

You probably dont need a map when your lost either lol

 

[CrackerJax]

You have given no proof. The church has rewritten histories to fit Jesus in. All of the "sources" mentioned were recorded by the church!!!

Still looking for an OUTSIDE source....

 

[jenni8675309]

You have given no proof. The church has rewritten histories to fit Jesus in. All of the "sources" mentioned were recorded by the church!!!

Still looking for an OUTSIDE source....

your post is BOGUS, as usual

the dead sea scrolls prove the church did not change anything.

carbon dated before 100 B.C. and untouched until 1947

 

[CrackerJax]

The dead sea scrolls talk NOTHING of Christ....nothing. I think you are confused. The dead sea scrolls were NOT tampered with....and say NOTHING of Jesus...connect the dots...

All of your sources originate from the CHURCH!!!

 

[jenni8675309]

So what is that?
Crackerjax facts 0/3
Jenni facts 10/10

Sounds about right to me

Just admit it already

 

[CrackerJax]

You haven't proven a thing...take a look at my video...see if you really are a Christian?

 

[Johnnyorganic]

I am satisfied that there did exist a Jesus of Nazareth.

What I am looking for are contemporary, independent, sources indicating he walked on water, turned water into wine, raised the dead, rose from the dead, and ascended into the clouds.

Operative words being contemporary and independent. That eliminates 'The Bible sez' as a viable response.

We need not delve into the Immaculate Conception, or Divine Rape, if you will. I think everyone can agree that Mary's story is bullshit. Naughty, naughty, Mary.

 

[bigtomatofarmer]

Jenni never said anything about being a christian. I only read where she described herself as a historian.
Even after she told you that, you still assume and judge her. Whats up with that?
Jenni has given overwhelming evidence that Jesus did infact exist. And every reference is real, and outside the bible.


Also, the dead sea scrolls dont mention Jesus because they are dated before 100 B.C. Duh, before christ!!!
Which proves that the church did not change anything, before Christ and after.

Anyways Cracker, I still like you. And you dont have to bring back that old avatar either. I like it, but I understand the need to change things up from time to time.
I think about changing my avatar all the time

 

[tip top toker]

i'm with jonny organic. let's see some sources that are not signed 'the church'

 

[CrackerJax]

I haven't judged Jenni, just her argument, which is faulty. All references to Jesus as a person cannot be made if the Church is removed from the equation. Now who possibly would benefit from ppl believing? Who indeed. Who wrote the Bible? Who indeed.....

No, there just isn't any cause to believe in jesus supposed miracles. Miracles were thrown around back then ALL the time. People through poor diets hallucinated ALL the time. People loved to tell stories around the campfire and some persevered through time and were recorded....as stories. It is the Church who hijacked the faith through Saul to make it into a HISTORY. It is not history....they are fables, and allegorical stories of the tribes. The code of conduct is instilled in the Old testament and I'm sure you will agree, it was barbaric!

 

[Johnny Retro]

Religon..The biggest cult to date

 

[fish601]

Religon..The biggest cult to date

I am a christian and i agree Religon is no good

 

[fish601]

You have given no proof. The church has rewritten histories to fit Jesus in. All of the "sources" mentioned were recorded by the church!!!

Still looking for an OUTSIDE source....

Just gona throw this in... Can you really trust anything written in history?

for instance Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad doesnt really believe the Holocaust happend
With all the facts about it how can he deny it??
with all the facts about Jesus how can you deny him?
but i guess if you dont see the facts you just dont see them

 

[CrackerJax]

Can you trust a history with one author??

 

[blakkmask]

Until The Day I Die.

Then we are brothers.

 

[pot scott]

Can you trust a history with one author??

almost everything in the bible happened, it was all just changed over time for the church's benifit.

 

[CrackerJax]

That's nice....says who? The church? There's no way of knowing....

 

[pot scott]

That's nice....says who? The church? There's no way of knowing....

the only thing that is actually real is ur faith in something

 

[jenni8675309]

Can you trust a history with one author??

Even YOU have admitted the bible has many authors. And by doing so you discredit yourself..... Again
I swear, you flip flop more than a fish out of water

almost everything in the bible happened, it was all just changed over time for the church's benifit.

Do you remember the discussion we had earlier about the dead sea scrolls? The church didnt change anything. Google it for yourself

That's nice....says who? The church? There's no way of knowing....

How much weed do you smoke? And can you send me some? Haha, seriously man, Ive given you PLENTY of links, quotes, resources.
Even YOU mentioned the Essene which proved my point even further.

I have answered ALL of your questions pertaining to the existance of Jesus. And you have not been able to discredit any of my posts with facts, links or sources. You just sit there and say, nope, that didnt happen. Nuh uh, I dont believe you. Is that all you have?
Remember when I tore your argument of the Essene into shreds?
And when you said scholars discredit Josephus Flavius I gave you a direct link to YOUR SOURCE!!! That even still proved my point they did infact believe Jesus walked the earth. They had a different view of Him, but yes even your source confirms Jesus's existance.
And what else.... Oh yeah! You said all my sources are from the bible aka church. However, not one of my sources are found in the bible. I never one time used the bible as a reference.

Ignorance is one thing, denial is another

 

[CrackerJax]

Jernni Jenni, so confused....

Yes, the Bible has many authors.... ANONYMOUS authors.... who's words are GOSPEL... sounds a bit ridiculous, no? Try passing that off today.

BUT, and it's a big one Jenni, BUT the church is the one that has done ALL the editing, compiling, throwing out (?), of the Gospels...... so I stand by my post. It is not relevant how many different authors if it is all being controlled by ONE agent, the church, who just coincidentally has amassed a HUGE fortune with that CONTROL. Wake up jenni.....

The Essene scrolls prove MY point Jenni. How hard is it for you to understand? There is NO RECORD of Jesus in the Essene scrolls. That doesn't help you dear. It works AGAINST your argument.... In a very damning way as well.

I have already knocked down your sources, which again have been funneled through the church and rewriting of history has already been established by many scholars. The church has been found guilty of this many times, and yet, you believe each rewrite. Why not though, you accept the VERSION of the Bible, no?

I dare say, you will never see the true Bible....

You don't seem to know the history of what you believe in...

Everything about Jesus died with him (supposedly died,existed). All that great stuff and momentous occasions and POOF...no more religion after his death. Nothing about anything for DECADES. Then a guy named Saul, who never met jesus, writes all of this stuff about a new religion. He never heard of mary, he never heard of the Nativity, he never heard of miracles, never heard of the entrance into Jerusalem.....amazing lack of recall, and yet..... (to be continued)