Zeus' 1400w Canadian Basement

[GypsyBush]

I run 28 in 5.5" pots in my 2x4s... but I think they are not TRUE 2x4s...

And yeah.. Hermeto Pascoal is a weirdo... but he is a musical genius...

I have seen him play his beard hairs... pigs... pots... all kinds of shit...

I saw a video of him playing his flute to the "frog orchestra"... amazing...

But he is a weirdo... I can only hope to get that weird before I die...

 

[Grow it and roll it!]

Glad all is well Spruce, had me worried for a minute! haha Lookin great as always in the basement

 

[SpruceZeus]

I decided to drop a couple bucks and spring for a real flood table for the veg room.
2 days for the silicone to dry then I'll get things whipped into shape, and ditch this fucking soil.

Things are looking pretty good in the flowering room. I picked up some cal-max today so I should have that mag problem licked.

Kinda a dark picture, but I really like it. White Rhino.

And here is the SZ phenotype I spent 6 months revegging. Looks like it was worth the hassle to keep these genetics. Super duper frosty at only 5 weeks.

 

[GypsyBush]

Killer Photo... I like it too...

Why do you use silicone?

I find the gaskets enough in my set up... even on the tray that didd not sit over the res...

Have you ever had a leak?

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On a different note...

You mentioned something about pots tipping over...

Dry hydroton floats...

Wet hydroton sinks...

If you allow you pots to dry out... they will want to float.. and tip over...

I flood often so my pellets do not dry out... therefore, when flood time comes... they tend to stay put ..

Did that make sense? It's just a product of me thinking about it... but it does make sense to me...

Cheers Bro...

 

[SpruceZeus]

Killer Photo... I like it too...

Why do you use silicone?

I find the gaskets enough in my set up... even on the tray that didd not sit over the res...
Have you ever had a leak?

Because my overflow is nothing more than a piece of hose I need to secure it somehow. Also I like to err on the side of caution when it comes to lots and lots of water.

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On a different note...

You mentioned something about pots tipping over...

Dry hydroton floats...

Wet hydroton sinks...

If you allow you pots to dry out... they will want to float.. and tip over...

I flood often so my pellets do not dry out... therefore, when flood time comes... they tend to stay put ..

Did that make sense? It's just a product of me thinking about it... but it does make sense to me...

Cheers Bro...

Cheers man. I'll take that into consideration.
The floating problem was just with the little square pots, I dont think i'm going to use them anymore, they're too flimsy.

 

[SpruceZeus]

Awww shit...

I never would have thought that dense, fat nugs would be such a fucking problem.

More mould/budrot.

I was checking out my table full of Rhinos and while handling one plant the fucking bud just sort of disintegrated into my hands.

My displeasure has no end.

Airflow is ample, humidity is low... What the fuck am I supposed to do about this shit???

I can't go losing anymore crops to this garbage.

I guess its time to do some research.

 

[tahoe58]

wow that really is puzzling .... good luck in working that out .... hope ya find what ya need ..... damn that really sucks! Walk on!~~

 

[GypsyBush]

SZ are you plucking the fan leaves?

 

[SpruceZeus]

SZ are you plucking the fan leaves?

Only if they are dying.
Should I be?

 

[GypsyBush]

I have this crazy thought that plucking leaves leaves an open wound inside of the bud...

I can sooooo see 2 or 3 drops bleednig out and not drying out cause the bud is dense...

I have not had that problem.. but I do not touch the leaves... not after a certain point anyways...

Just like a scab.. I let the dead leaves fall on their own...

I know people that SWEAR BY plucking a LOT of leaves in mid to late flower...

But I have seen how much fluid can come out of pulling a leaf, even a dead one...

Just some food for thought...

 

[bigjesse1922]

I have this crazy thought that plucking leaves leaves an open wound inside of the bud...

I can sooooo see 2 or 3 drops bleednig out and not drying out cause the bud is dense...

I have not had that problem.. but I do not touch the leaves... not after a certain point anyways...

Just like a scab.. I let the dead leaves fall on their own...

I know people that SWEAR BY plucking a LOT of leaves in mid to late flower...

But I have seen how much fluid can come out of pulling a leaf, even a dead one...

Just some food for thought...

I HAVE had this problem and I will never pull a gfan leaf off again once flower sets in.

Lost two fat colas on my last rotation because of this. RH never over 55% (normally 39-45%) with ample airflow and I got budrot too. Do you pull them off from anywhere near where this budrot has occurred?

I did and my pics look practically identical to yours. I had some slightly more grey mold as well.

Does it originate from the stalk out?

I think GB may be on to something here.

 

[cph]

I have this crazy thought that plucking leaves leaves an open wound inside of the bud...

I can sooooo see 2 or 3 drops bleednig out and not drying out cause the bud is dense...

I have not had that problem.. but I do not touch the leaves... not after a certain point anyways...

Just like a scab.. I let the dead leaves fall on their own...

I know people that SWEAR BY plucking a LOT of leaves in mid to late flower...

But I have seen how much fluid can come out of pulling a leaf, even a dead one...

Just some food for thought...

I don't have a lot of experience, but I did see this first hand. Just 4 days ago I found mold on a plant. When I got to the center of it I found the stem from a leaf that I had cut off. Lost about half a cola from it, and I think the other half is questionable. So thanks for the brain food Gypsy!!!

Zeus, things are looking good for the most part. I'm sorry to hear about your problems. Good luck getting through it!!

 

[Katatawnic]

From what I've read (and practice if/when I remove a dead leaf) is that you make sure you remove it right against its branch, leaving absolutely no stem leftovers.

Also, if you do remove a leaf, don't cut it. Instead, pinch it off & closed with your fingernails, because the pinching closes off the wound instead of leaving it open for nasty critters to get in there.

My two cents' worth, anyhow.

 

[LoudBlunts]

because of my premade system i HAVE to pluck fans and whatever else is in the way


i've seen no adverse effects. and i strip bitches BARE!!!


but what do I know....im just a freaking noob

 

[GypsyBush]

see.. there's always another side...

LB.. would you care to take a guess at what would cause SZ's problems..?

 

[LoudBlunts]

i blv your hypothesis was a very good one.


however i guess we could go down the list again.


SZ i know you've already said you got ample air flow. sometimes ample isnt good enough. Two things i dont blv in. that is using the word overkill and airflow in the same sentence as well as light.

with that said, i'd work on your airflow and get a dehumidifer in there.

like Gypsy suggested, for some reason or another something isnt allowing itself to fully dry out....whether it be from the juice that oozes out when you pluck or whatever.

do you have a dehumidifer in your room?

sometimes you may think you have ample airflow but that can be decieving...especially with strains that put on heavy weight at the end (which is why breeders recommend you have LOW LOW humidity).

i can remember this one crop i had 2L coke bottle colas.... my humidity was stable at around 50-55%. EVEN that was too high...so i try to aim for 40-50%, hell even lower depending on strain.

Dense nugs are GREAT but can pose as a problem if you dont maime the humidity. Whas the use in growing big buds if ya cant smoke due to moldiness and budrot

 

[LoudBlunts]

sidenote: i just remembered that you do grow in a basement....

not to be smartass, serious question bro.....do you notice mold and mildew in your basement?

if so, i would definitely clean it up/section off/whatever.

also are you running your fans 24/7?

 

[GypsyBush]

I have buds that are sealed tight...

Between the denseness and the stickyness there is NO WAY air can move within... no way.. no matter how strong a fan... it would take the bud being blown apart...

So if you put even half a drop... it would be doom in my eyes...

Even if you have 20% RH... it would still be sealed inside the bud...

just trying to paint the picture...

 

[LoudBlunts]

just about everything is permeable.

i like to call it osmosis

 

[LoudBlunts]

also it is not about the 'big' fan moving air in


its about keeping shit moving.

fungi, mold, mildew cannot...welll scratch that...they have a VERY hard time forming with constant airflow and air moving around period.

it just doesnt have enough to settle/attach itself