fish601
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I am sure some whites feel that way but dont put us all in that class
I think obama if he dont get it together will end up being the worst pres ever and thats a shame i had high hopes for him
Who's Sick Of Obama Yet?
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I think obama if he dont get it together will end up being the worst pres ever and thats a shame i had high hopes for him
CrackerJax
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I was just hoping that what Obama was telegraphing in his campaign wasn't true. I had hoped he'd be able to not be naive and inexperienced. I had hoped that Congress would exhibit some fiscal responsibility.
Nope.......
Nope.......
hanimmal
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It is just republicans like Crackerjax that are making up anything they can think of in a relentless barrage of anti-Obama conspiracies that will have a impact on how people that follow the garbage that they say and think it is truth.
Eventually they may just relent and quit worrying about whats going on all together, because they think that everything is about to go to hell and what is the point. Others will never really be too much into it and just see some idiot on Fox News talking about something anti-Obama and think eventually that there must be something to it.
But almost everyone will end up voting the way they did before. This may just scare enough crazies like CrackerJax to vote this time that will help out the 'other side' which is really not much different except one side is against real human rights, and the other is more for public welfare. Both of which are equally evil in the eyes of the other side.
Eventually they may just relent and quit worrying about whats going on all together, because they think that everything is about to go to hell and what is the point. Others will never really be too much into it and just see some idiot on Fox News talking about something anti-Obama and think eventually that there must be something to it.
But almost everyone will end up voting the way they did before. This may just scare enough crazies like CrackerJax to vote this time that will help out the 'other side' which is really not much different except one side is against real human rights, and the other is more for public welfare. Both of which are equally evil in the eyes of the other side.
fish601
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i guess we do only go by what we hear but its not just fox news talking bout anti-obama it seems like every channel i watch they bash him
natrone23
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I think old people think tweeting is cool
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
My God, white people are UPSET at the fact that their president is a black Muslim from Kenya! Hilarious! I never thought I would see the day when white folks are more bitter than black people.
This thread is pure comedy!
Fletch: This has got to be the stupidest comment ever made ever. You have to live in a box and be mentally challeneged to think this is a large issue with white folks. Thats like saying "Ha ha black folks are just mad because George Bush is white and a hard core christian from the south" that kind of statement would make all black folks retarded which isnt the fact.. People mostly have problems with Obama becasue of his Illinois track record at failure, his push for socilism culture, his spending without concern, his lack of research before spending and acting which has made our debt larger then ever before and grown the largest in 8 months bigger then any president in office ever before and not by a little but by trillions, the fact he doesnt learn the international protocols when visiting different countries, his constant lying about not taxing the middle class but each month his cut off income rate for taxing drops the original $275000 cut off is now $100000 so by next year when its law any house making over $80000 which is pretty much all the middle class will get that nice new shiney tax hammer, all of this while he tries to satnd in fron of the camera lying through his teeth talking about transparent policies then after all the talk of getting or troops home triples the afgahn troops.. Yeah pretty sure those all are just because he is Black...come on stop eating paint chips and huffing paint get a clue and a life and try to pay attention before you make such a stupid comment. Almost as bad as the dummy who sent me a message saying he is ignoring me until I get rid of my racist avatar which is the Joker and was first done on George Bush.. Not one thing racist about the joker just means he is an idiot thats all ...I hear iq's in america dropping daily
This thread is pure comedy!
Fletch: This has got to be the stupidest comment ever made ever. You have to live in a box and be mentally challeneged to think this is a large issue with white folks. Thats like saying "Ha ha black folks are just mad because George Bush is white and a hard core christian from the south" that kind of statement would make all black folks retarded which isnt the fact.. People mostly have problems with Obama becasue of his Illinois track record at failure, his push for socilism culture, his spending without concern, his lack of research before spending and acting which has made our debt larger then ever before and grown the largest in 8 months bigger then any president in office ever before and not by a little but by trillions, the fact he doesnt learn the international protocols when visiting different countries, his constant lying about not taxing the middle class but each month his cut off income rate for taxing drops the original $275000 cut off is now $100000 so by next year when its law any house making over $80000 which is pretty much all the middle class will get that nice new shiney tax hammer, all of this while he tries to satnd in fron of the camera lying through his teeth talking about transparent policies then after all the talk of getting or troops home triples the afgahn troops.. Yeah pretty sure those all are just because he is Black...come on stop eating paint chips and huffing paint get a clue and a life and try to pay attention before you make such a stupid comment. Almost as bad as the dummy who sent me a message saying he is ignoring me until I get rid of my racist avatar which is the Joker and was first done on George Bush.. Not one thing racist about the joker just means he is an idiot thats all ...I hear iq's in america dropping daily
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
I think old people think tweeting is cool
Fletch: lol that was funny since tweeting and facebook are for old people lol
Fletch: lol that was funny since tweeting and facebook are for old people lol
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
Ok give me time if you turn on any news station its brought up daily though. You want his original $275000 shown or just enough to show each of his drops in the tax points?
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
Ok heres a quick one that kind of goes from day one and how it keeps shrinking
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79319
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79319
hanimmal
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Yeah basically anything that the administration or proposed bill to do this, or really anything pointing to where it came from would do I can take it from there.
That is from: [SIZE=-1]Posted: October 28, 2008
2:42 pm Eastern
So is not a good source as it was all from the campaign.
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That is from: [SIZE=-1]Posted: October 28, 2008
2:42 pm Eastern
So is not a good source as it was all from the campaign.
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FilthyFletch
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Oh and for those who missed it here is another example of his transpirency.
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2009/08/little_girl_at.html
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2009/08/little_girl_at.html
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
Ill post some mmore currnt ones as that only showed it at the $150000 mark and its actually at the $100000 mark now
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
This is bit different but good and true also..
http://americaswatchtower.com/2009/03/29/broken-promises-obamas-tax-increase-on-the-poor/
http://americaswatchtower.com/2009/03/29/broken-promises-obamas-tax-increase-on-the-poor/
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
and just another good little read about his transparency ways
http://www.atr.org/obama-floats-latest-tax-hikebr-health-a3588#
http://www.atr.org/obama-floats-latest-tax-hikebr-health-a3588#
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
And this one well it just shows how he is masking the truth about his taxing and deficet cuts. Again great transpirity..
http://joshuapundit.blogspot.com/2009/04/obama-budget-passeswelcome-to-socialist.html
http://joshuapundit.blogspot.com/2009/04/obama-budget-passeswelcome-to-socialist.html
hanimmal
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None of those are about Obama raising taxes on the lower brackets. And I need to correct you on one thing.
Link 1. That little girl was adorable. And a plant. Just like almost every person in history that got to talk at a Bush town hall.
Link 2. Cigarettes should be taxed high since it is directly linked to a huge increase in medical costs. And yes I smoke.
Link 3. Says nothing so I looked up what they were talking about, and it was ideas on what to do with the hlath insurance bill, which is nothing like this one that is proposed. So that was just tossing around of ideas to see which to do. So written just about 4 months after that idea was discarded.
Link 4. Is an (incredibly biased) article talking about the budget, and talking about one of the ways that could pay for it is a tax on the middle class. It is nothing from the Obama Administration saying that was the plan.
The $250k mark was household income not individual income. One of the things that the republicans jumped on during the campaign was this discrepancy. Basically check out the tax brackets that Clinton had, Obama said he was allowing the tax cuts that Bush put in place to expire.
Link 1. That little girl was adorable. And a plant. Just like almost every person in history that got to talk at a Bush town hall.
Link 2. Cigarettes should be taxed high since it is directly linked to a huge increase in medical costs. And yes I smoke.
Link 3. Says nothing so I looked up what they were talking about, and it was ideas on what to do with the hlath insurance bill, which is nothing like this one that is proposed. So that was just tossing around of ideas to see which to do. So written just about 4 months after that idea was discarded.
Link 4. Is an (incredibly biased) article talking about the budget, and talking about one of the ways that could pay for it is a tax on the middle class. It is nothing from the Obama Administration saying that was the plan.
FilthyFletch
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The $250k mark was household income not individual income. One of the things that the republicans jumped on during the campaign was this discrepancy. Basically check out the tax brackets that Clinton had, Obama said he was allowing the tax cuts that Bush put in place to expire.
Link 1. That little girl was adorable. And a plant. Just like almost every person in history that got to talk at a Bush town hall.
Link 2. Cigarettes should be taxed high since it is directly linked to a huge increase in medical costs. And yes I smoke.
Link 3. Says nothing so I looked up what they were talking about, and it was ideas on what to do with the hlath insurance bill, which is nothing like this one that is proposed. So that was just tossing around of ideas to see which to do. So written just about 4 months after that idea was discarded.
Link 4. Is an (incredibly biased) article talking about the budget, and talking about one of the ways that could pay for it is a tax on the middle class. It is nothing from the Obama Administration saying that was the plan.
Fletch: yes it is combined household income no one debates that not sure why you wanted to make that statement its always brought up in the meaning of a 2 income home when Republican bring it up so not sure where that was going.
1.Unimportant if she was adorable or ugly she was used as a pawn to lie and decieve the public. Yes many do this but Obama is a saint telling the truth to the people via transparency...so you agree he is decitful and a liar to make hiomself and his plan look better from his poiunt of view... A lie is a lie is a lie.
2.Why should smokers be taxed on thier cigarettes? Why not thier insurance which they already are? I hate alcohol and people who drink are responsible for most vehiclular death so why not tax drivers who have a drink and then tax them for extra insurnace and then a hazard tax?..Its dumb I was a smoker but quiet 10 years ago but the taxes they are doing are outrageous and borderr line illegal as they do prevent the constitutional right ot persue life and happiness.
3.This also shows how he is misrepresenting his statement of who gets taxed. Its not a direct tax but quietly increases the tax the middle class will have to pay on other areas that instead of a direct income tax hike will be spread around to hide the hikes to pay fro what he is doing..Again transparency basically a lie in disguise. Yes they all lie but Dems think Obama is honest and transparent but obviously he is not and this is one of his many decptions people dont see with thier blinders on because Obama didnt say it to them directly...again a lie is a lie is from a liar.
4.This post was using all the numbers Obamas adminstartion had put out there and then does the straigh caluclations showing the end results are not anything like what Obama is claiming. Its showing misinformation via no information. unless you actually take obamas oiwn numbers and do the math you dont see the actual figures but if you do it straight out his said ending figures are far far off from what he is saying.. again another lie from the transparent honest president.
These links were more on the lines of showing his dihonesty and non transparency which was ahuge part of his platform when he ran. Im working on getting a very current post on his tax revision plan so that its a day or 2 old so you dont go to the well thats from 2 months ago. i will post a very current one its harder to find prints of the radio and tv programs that report it but Ill find a print or youtube video showing the reports.
Link 1. That little girl was adorable. And a plant. Just like almost every person in history that got to talk at a Bush town hall.
Link 2. Cigarettes should be taxed high since it is directly linked to a huge increase in medical costs. And yes I smoke.
Link 3. Says nothing so I looked up what they were talking about, and it was ideas on what to do with the hlath insurance bill, which is nothing like this one that is proposed. So that was just tossing around of ideas to see which to do. So written just about 4 months after that idea was discarded.
Link 4. Is an (incredibly biased) article talking about the budget, and talking about one of the ways that could pay for it is a tax on the middle class. It is nothing from the Obama Administration saying that was the plan.
Fletch: yes it is combined household income no one debates that not sure why you wanted to make that statement its always brought up in the meaning of a 2 income home when Republican bring it up so not sure where that was going.
1.Unimportant if she was adorable or ugly she was used as a pawn to lie and decieve the public. Yes many do this but Obama is a saint telling the truth to the people via transparency...so you agree he is decitful and a liar to make hiomself and his plan look better from his poiunt of view... A lie is a lie is a lie.
2.Why should smokers be taxed on thier cigarettes? Why not thier insurance which they already are? I hate alcohol and people who drink are responsible for most vehiclular death so why not tax drivers who have a drink and then tax them for extra insurnace and then a hazard tax?..Its dumb I was a smoker but quiet 10 years ago but the taxes they are doing are outrageous and borderr line illegal as they do prevent the constitutional right ot persue life and happiness.
3.This also shows how he is misrepresenting his statement of who gets taxed. Its not a direct tax but quietly increases the tax the middle class will have to pay on other areas that instead of a direct income tax hike will be spread around to hide the hikes to pay fro what he is doing..Again transparency basically a lie in disguise. Yes they all lie but Dems think Obama is honest and transparent but obviously he is not and this is one of his many decptions people dont see with thier blinders on because Obama didnt say it to them directly...again a lie is a lie is from a liar.
4.This post was using all the numbers Obamas adminstartion had put out there and then does the straigh caluclations showing the end results are not anything like what Obama is claiming. Its showing misinformation via no information. unless you actually take obamas oiwn numbers and do the math you dont see the actual figures but if you do it straight out his said ending figures are far far off from what he is saying.. again another lie from the transparent honest president.
These links were more on the lines of showing his dihonesty and non transparency which was ahuge part of his platform when he ran. Im working on getting a very current post on his tax revision plan so that its a day or 2 old so you dont go to the well thats from 2 months ago. i will post a very current one its harder to find prints of the radio and tv programs that report it but Ill find a print or youtube video showing the reports.
hanimmal
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You act like I have said that Obama is not a politician. Way before you put on that stupid avatar that you think upsets people, I have said that Obama is a politician and should not be trusted, and will lie for his own ends. I just don't buy all the conspiracy garbage that keeps getting pushed. Since it is moslty bullshit. If you are stupid enough to think that there are not always handpicked people in the stands well then I am sorry that you are easily deceived.
Congrats on quitting smoking. I would love to (smoke about 3 a day) but my fiance' is adicted to them so I do it to talk with her outside when she smokes.
There are taxes on liquor because of those very things you say. If the companies that provided alchohol and cigerettes paid for all the care that the people that use their products end up needing when they develope cancer or get into an accident then there would be no reason to tax them. But until they do we the people have to pick up their tab, and if people want to be destructive I am all for it, but they need to pay for it eventually, we should not be left with their bill when they leave the resturaunt of life.
How can it be a lack of transperacy when he is talking about different ideas that he is thinking about doing, especially when it was one of the ones that WAS NOT USED. Transperancy is hiding things from the public, and that was an idea that he put out into the public to open the debate of what to do. It was an idea for health reform that was discarded early on.
People amaze me. You want transperancy but when you get it you use it as a way to say, see he is lying about this because look he said this here, when it is a totally different idea.
Again you are mistaking one way to do something with the way that it must happen. I need to pay a bill. I can directly write a check, I can pay cash that I have in the house. I can use a credit card, I can open a tab, I can cut off the power, I can do some financing, ect. They are all means to an end, but using one doesn't mean that is how it has to be done. That link is a article that pretends to say that there is only one way to do something that the person that is doing it has repeatedly said he is not going to do.
God please no youtube video, just need a link that shows Obama or his people saying that there will be a tax on the middle classes, that is not from a third party saying that is what he meant to say, and not from the election.
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