fish601
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i have searched alot about dating methods and i am here to say they do not know how old something really is (past a few thousand years).
and that is NOT verifiable data
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and that is NOT verifiable data
CrackerJax
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Well this is pretty simple really. Just because you aren't satisfied with the Exactness of the "estimate", doesn't invalidate it. It's a good starting point and its accuracy is improving all the time.
But we needn't wait for fine tuning of carbon dating (or the next better method), this is very simple indeed.
The Bible says that the earth is only 6000 years old. Since 100% of geologists would laugh at this number, I think that should be a tip off that the Bible is incorrect.
So, the exactness of carbon dating is not relevant to the Bible. The Bible is off by such a wide margin, that there is no need to demand Exact proof otherwise. It's like saying science is off by an inch, so the Bible being off by a mile is ...okay. it's not.
fish601
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what verse does the bible state earth is 6000 years old
you really have never read the bible have you
CrackerJax
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I'm just going by church doctrine....... don't worry.... you live by it, not me.
The bible also says nothing about the world itself. Think G*D might have mentioned that the world wasn't flat? By the way, those lights up in the sky are actually suns!! Nope... nothing.....
Primitive book for a primitive time of a primitive ppl.
The bible also says nothing about the world itself. Think G*D might have mentioned that the world wasn't flat? By the way, those lights up in the sky are actually suns!! Nope... nothing.....
Primitive book for a primitive time of a primitive ppl.
phatlip
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becuase u fucking idiot how many times do i have to say it...
SCIENTISTS KNOW THE HALF LIFE FOR CARBON 14... AND THEY KNOW ITS ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME... JUST BECUASE UR BIBLE DOESNT SAY THAT CARBON 14 has a half life of "Half-Life: 5,730 ± 40 Years" so u turning ur water up and down is not valid because u are releasing different amounts... now the plus or minus 40 leaves some room for error in case of outside variables that may affect decompasition... becuase no one ever said that caarbon 14 dating knows the age on the day... its a very accurate estimate... and when a scientists tells u the age of an artifact they most likely have already calculated outside variables... really bro u just dont understand all these theories from the scientific perspective... so until u do u CANNOT provide a valid argument
phatlip
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right! and why would he have even created all the suns and pulsar stars and what not in the universe? so that humans have something pretty to look at at night?
what... huh?
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The bible contains a complete genealogical record. Add them up, and add 1976 years (since death of Christ) you come up with roughly 6000 years.
It is in your book. Feel free to verify. It requires research in the first book, which typically makes people stop reading to begin with... but it is all right there.
It is in your book. Feel free to verify. It requires research in the first book, which typically makes people stop reading to begin with... but it is all right there.
phatlip
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fish i have a question for u! as far as the adam and eve story goes... now, so all the garden of eden stuff happens, they have to leave... ok so i get that... but my question is when their chidren go out to find spouses, who the hell would their be on earth if Adam and Eve were the first? and they were their kids? was god having an affair with another adam and Eve and another garden of Eden... playing some tricks? dont take this the wrong way i am actaully asking i would like u to explain please!
phatlip
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u still have yet to explain why they are NOT valid! and u cant just say we have to have faith cuz its obviuos we all want proof
what... huh?
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Some say Lilith...
But at the end of the day, it was all inbreeding.
The great flood means all animals are inbred too. All animals which Adam named on the 6th day... many of which are now extinct.
Hebrew is also the language of creation... and the Hebrew names for many animals translate to their violent nature... which Adam would have had to have observed... before the creation of Eve... and the fall which begat violence unto the world.
There is no reason for this discussion to turn sour with name calling and angry talk. Remember anger makes people act stupid.
One thing i noticed as well fish, you keep falling back on the argument that because not all dating methods add up and because some people have found anomolies then they cant be true. That is not necessarily the case in science. There are often mistakes or minor errors which pop up but you have to look at percentages. I.e if 99.99% of the tests say the same thing and a 0.01% say something else then odds are the 0.01 is a fault in the test or a variable is involved which has been overlooked.
One thing i noticed as well fish, you keep falling back on the argument that because not all dating methods add up and because some people have found anomolies then they cant be true. That is not necessarily the case in science. There are often mistakes or minor errors which pop up but you have to look at percentages. I.e if 99.99% of the tests say the same thing and a 0.01% say something else then odds are the 0.01 is a fault in the test or a variable is involved which has been overlooked.
fish601
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If you believe the adam and eve story and we all came from 2 people then you would realize that we still in a way marry our brothers and sisters for maybe a better answer http://www.gotquestions.org/Cains-wife.html
fish601
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they are not accurate look it up
fish601
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Different dating methods often give quite different results.
If this was a reliable means of determining ages, then they should all agree.
In Australia some wood was found that had been buried in a lava flow which had formed into basalt.
The wood was dated by radiocarbon (carbon 14) analysis at about 45,000 years old.
But the basalt was dated by potassium-argon method at 45 million years old! [8]
A sample of wood dated 33,720 years old (+ or - 430 yrs) by the carbon 14 method was found in middle Triassic rock dated at 230 million years old!
grape swisha
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why dont you look it up. everytime you talk to a christian about evolution they always say some dumb shit like you just have to believe....and they has no evidence that disproves this science. when science has more than enough evidence to prove evolution and not creation.
Lava + wood? Surely it would just burn?
fish601
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there is No evidence to prove evolution (as in a monkey turning into a human)
Rexob715
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You are QUITE wrong. Evolution, or the belief thereof, is based on the evidence found within reality.
Life(which is hugely diverse) adapts to its environment over time. Given more time, and especially more environmental changes, we could and would expect to find greater changes among the LIFE forms. That's what life is......an adaptation to environment.
The evidence found, archaeological, biological, chemical, genetic etc. etc. all support this belief of LIFE changing over time.
You say there is no evidence, but this is ONLY because if you admitted there was evidence, your very own God will punish you severely!
But the ONLY way you are right is THIS CHANGE OVER TIME, which has produced multiple different species, millions of years to accomplish. So, we have every right to believe it happened and ALL the evidence we have found in reality supports this belief. We actually have so much evidence that shows it happened, we consider it FACT!
fish601
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to adapt is one thing but you can not show me ANYTHING that proves we evolved.
CrackerJax
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Notice how fish doesn't have any strength in the sciences? I'm gonna throw out a guess and say that polls would confirm that religious ppl don't have strong backgrounds in science. I'm not talking about careers, just general knowledge.
Just a hunch, but I think a good one.
Just a hunch, but I think a good one.