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fallinghigh
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lol ok my bad. I must have misread something..ty for posting pics. well hopefully this is adequate to detour people away from wasting money, and getting there hopes up thinking a 90 watt light that is = to 600 watt hps..
artthug
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Yeah, that is what I assumed I just try everything I mention. That way I am not spreading misinformation... Cheers
artthug
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You guys are missing the point though... *Coverage!* Here is and analogy maybe you will all understand.
You’re freezing to death and you a have a super warm woolen blanket but… It’s only 1” by 1” that may cover your feet but it’s not going to save your life. But then you find a full sized fleece blanket, while you may still have a chill you still have sufficient warm and will be just fine.
JAPPY
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I understand the coverage just fine. I do now think my efforts with the single LED isn't what I want. I do believe if I added another 3 for a total of 4 in a 4 x 4 tent vs 400W HPS it could prove rather interesting. Both would run the same watts and I think the coverage may prove to be better. The only thing I would have to control with the LED would be the heat. Acouple of CFL's could help with that to bring it to 400W in total for each tent. I'm going to move forward with that idea and order what I need. Call me what you want .. lmao
For the moment I am going to add my 400W HPS tonight to the tent as the added light will only help the cause and with in a few days I will be adding some more Skunk and BB
and I know the UFO will not have the coverage for all of them Peace
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fallinghigh
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OK....YOU ARE A JOKE..led experiment expert that adds cfl and hps why cause led failed. Its a hard hard pill to swallow but I swallowed it, and I didn't choke.I understand the coverage just fine. I do now think my efforts with the single LED isn't what I want. I do believe if I added another 3 for a total of 4 in a 4 x 4 tent vs 400W HPS it could prove rather interesting. Both would run the same watts and I think the coverage may prove to be better. The only thing I would have to control with the LED would be the heat. Acouple of CFL's could help with that to bring it to 400W in total for each tent. I'm going to move forward with that idea and order what I need. Call me what you want .. lmao
For the moment I am going to add my 400W HPS tonight to the tent as the added light will only help the cause and with in a few days I will be adding some more Skunk and BB
Peace
Try growing cfg vertically if you want a low watt experiment. I bet you couldn't yield 2 ounces of medicine with four of them LED fuckers. If one failed why buy more?
look at the vertical mh in my pic you going to veg 27 plants with 4 leds lol. LED cannot compete, rating 0, no stars, don't buy more, sell the one you got on ebay
I know I am
you up but please, dont act like a success story when you failed.
JAPPY
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Dude I know I would be flamed but I wouldn't say it failed !! Actually this is my first attempt at a grow so no pro here !! Never claimed I was !! But I'm learning and researching everyday. I do believe the need for more coverage DUE to the fact I will be adding more plants HINCE the reason for more coverage. If I had the 3 UFO available to me right this moment I would simply add them but I don't. No need to flame here dude but I do think it has been successful so far.
Now flame all you want
Now flame all you want
artthug
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This is at all led users... I say dare to be different!Dude I know I would be flamed but I wouldn't say it failed !! Actually this is my first attempt at a grow so no pro here !! Never claimed I was !! But I'm learning and researching everyday. I do believe the need for more coverage DUE to the fact I will be adding more plants HINCE the reason for more coverage. If I had the 3 UFO available to me right this moment I would simply add them but I don't. No need to flame here dude but I do think it has been successful so far.
Now flame all you want
I never said it didnt work there are just more efficient methods.
Though I am quite experienced with leds and have had many successful harvests with them. I hate to talk about my work but, I recently consulted on large containers designed for a sea fairing. The point was to export a seasonal flower from Mexico to Europe using leds. After many trials we learned the three keys to success were
A warm white spectrum (70% better results),
A slightly higher nitrate formula with slightly lower potassium levels (I know what your think but the research proved it on 30+ species of flowering plants)
Also a slightly higher ph. (6.8ish)
Though we did use light units that were 168watts per meter and about 600.00 a peace. That is why I say wait ten years (so the market can catch up).
Treeth
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thats cool artthug,
what your background?
- I spent some time on international cannagraphic forums yesterday, on the led lab 2009 thread, and found it interesting that so many users has at least a bs in physics... There are communities with way higher education levels than this one,
but i still like it here better...
what kind of leds were used, i mean, who made the diode package? cree luxeon seoul osram
what your background?
- I spent some time on international cannagraphic forums yesterday, on the led lab 2009 thread, and found it interesting that so many users has at least a bs in physics... There are communities with way higher education levels than this one,
but i still like it here better...
what kind of leds were used, i mean, who made the diode package? cree luxeon seoul osram
repvip
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Treeth! Buddy
What's new in the world of LEDs?
This is the man to talk to about LEDs!
BTW, I think a lack of IR actually shortens harvest time, which isn't necessarily good, but based on experience this has proven true for me. It's not dramatic, but defintely noticeable, especially with the different times I experimented with. Usually around a week shorter for the strain I used to grow. I never did try IR or indeed much else other than the 350w 3rd gen panel.
But they are getting better all the time, right? LED grow lights, that is. I love these things. There is absolutely no stretching with the LEDs I used, and they were able to be placed higher above the plants than you would expect (~2 ft).
I haven't been on forums for awhile and don't plan too--but I suspect more people that have used the expensive units (i.e. >$1000 or equivalent home-made) have results that would blow your mind. They just don't share... the site where I got my LED fixture has user comments that can be made about the light (only customers with an order # can leave a comment) and I got to tell you they are 100% positive, and the site is usually out of stock, indicating great demand!
Sorry to ramble--good luck with it all! It's definitely in the here and now.
Treeth
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reppy!
what the fuck man. what the fuck. I definitely wanna hear the story bro.
(I'm harvesting next week, my one good plant, under 400w leds, and taking up 2 square feet, is going to yield over a gram per watt!)
Really about the IR. This dude, knna, over on international cannagraphic, has done and has a spanish speaking resource group of led growers, and has posted some of his findings in the led lab thread...
I can't believe a lack of IR shortens flowering time. This is huge. Everyone who knows little talk up the 660 nm... I don't believe it. I'm turning my IR off today. My plants want to run way too long.
Also, more amber/yellow shortens the flowering time as well. fuck. we might be getting somewhere, and now that prices are dropping...
This is the year of led repvip you called it.
what the fuck man. what the fuck. I definitely wanna hear the story bro.
(I'm harvesting next week, my one good plant, under 400w leds, and taking up 2 square feet, is going to yield over a gram per watt!)
Really about the IR. This dude, knna, over on international cannagraphic, has done and has a spanish speaking resource group of led growers, and has posted some of his findings in the led lab thread...
I can't believe a lack of IR shortens flowering time. This is huge. Everyone who knows little talk up the 660 nm... I don't believe it. I'm turning my IR off today. My plants want to run way too long.
Also, more amber/yellow shortens the flowering time as well. fuck. we might be getting somewhere, and now that prices are dropping...
This is the year of led repvip you called it.
superjoint
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I use a led ufo with 600 watt hps.I run the led for 12 hours,and the hps for 8 in the same time period, to save some money ,my plants are sugar coated ,even the fan leaves .Led is a geat supplemental light.I also use them for my mother plants with two 23 watt 6500k cfl,they grow like crazy,both in dwc.I also run two 23w cfl 2700k in flowering room as well.Think supplemental light,save some $$ .Thats what got my attention to led,the trichome production is supposed to better,according to High Times tests.I have grown this strain before,and without the led they were not as sugar coated looking,but great buds nonetheless.Also my mother plants leaves will get you high.I use 2 -50 watt tri band panels for my mothers with the cfl's.
fallinghigh
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kool shit, so does white work better than red and blue dedicated. I did see how the intensity of the light output was rated higher for white compared to red. I also noticed my blue seemed to outshine the red in intensity when the red had double the leds.
at first I was like wtf 12 and 8, seemed so strange. Then I thought maybe 4 hours before 4 hours after(like sunrise, sunset,kool idea).4,12,4 hmm you could prob go 4,10,4 or 3,12,3 or 4,8,4 if saving money is what you are looking for. 4,8,4 with leds staying on and cfls turning on for the 8, so cfls run 8hrs leds 16 hrs. Anyways I like your ideas of implementation. are you going to flower at say 2,8,2. I would definitely like yo see results of such experiments.
edit: ok so you are flowering at 12 hr but the 600 runs for 8 I would like to see results
aeroponicsROOKIE
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what type of leds do u have and use
superjoint
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I am flowering currently,so I am on a 12hr cycle.I run the led and cfl from 10p - 10a,I also run the hps in two 4 hour cycles during that time frame.I will try to get some pics of finished product.I am using one tri band spectrum ufo which has more red leds than blue,2 2700k cfl which run for the whole 12 hrs.I run the hps from 11p- 3a,then again at 5a-9a.Like I said the main reason I wanted led was for trichome production and to savev on elec bill.So far my buds are lookin good,more trichomes than the last grow using a 400 watt hps.Also it seems this grow is going faster too.I am growin the same strain for the 2nd time.My fan leaves are coated top and bottom with trichomes,didnt have that happen last time,but I am using stronger flowering nutes this time around too.
fallinghigh
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lol kma go spend your life savings on leds, go grow an 8th, then open your trap....once again if you are looking to buy a 90 watt led for 200 bucks, thinking it is as good as a 600 watt hid, you would be better off getting a 600 watt or even 400 watt hps for the money. Neither light will go crazy on a light bill, especially if only ran 12 hours a day. The raised amount of final product will more than triple the value of the few extra dollars spent on electricity.
THAT IS WHAT THE FUCKING PEOPLE WANT, THE COLD, HARD, FUCKING TRUTH...when doing research into new products
Crimble
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...in case anyone is intrested to know, I just checked their website and Growl just changed the product line from a tri-band to a 5-band (2 reds, orange, blue, white) flower light option, the price is the same but I guess they are also reading what KMMA has to say on the Cannagraphic LED thread 
ledgrowing
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led is the wave of the future i only use them i dont sell them but if you do your research u will c used right nothing beats them
ledgrowing
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led is the bomb i have used 2 90watt ufo and a 250hps for nine months now and they are as good as a 600watt hps its not as bright just more efficent at what id does the spectrum on a good ufo in red is 630 to 660nm with added blue for veg by sayit is as good as a 600hps /mh no its not as bright but the light usage is 95% as aspose to say 25% from hid no wasted light although i add a 250 and a 70 watt hps for flower as the led dont penetrate the plant as deep below the canopy as i like only around 3 feet or so i grow 6fters plus usually but for scrog there the best thing i have found and thats each ufo is as good as a 600 watter not combined