Why the hell are people against free health care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[FlyLikeAnEagle]

Exactly,i don't know why people keep saying this. For years people kept saying "Canada has free health care why don't we". He tries to get it done and people complain.

Its because republicans will do everything possible to paint democrats (especially Obama) with anything they can and hope it sticks, even if its bad for the country, they just dont care. They know if Obama succeeds with this it will be the end of their party, plain and simple. The republican party is very desperate. They remind me of a woman that someone has dumped (voted out) and now she is going around trashing the guys (voters) new woman (obama).

 

[fellowes]

http://www.angelfire.com/pa/sergeman/issues/healthcare/socialized.html

This is just one of hundreds of websites. Why is it failing? First, people consider it free, but tax rates are as high as 50%. The QUALITY of care is considerably lower than that in the U.S. RATIONING care is inevitable when you have such a high demand for care, with so few doctors. People with rare diseases, almost never receive care, because the funding for them are almost non-existent. I could go on and on, but you should really do some research for yourself. I don't gain anything for supporting health insurance companies, I just believe capitalism and the free market work, that's what our founders believe, and that is why America is so prosperous. I believe the government should have as little power and control as possible. And I don't believe they should be jamming this crap down our throats, when they themselves, the president included, admit to not reading the bill. What the hell is that. They are passing laws and regulations that they don't even know about. If this happened in the private sector, the person would be fired, and lose their license to ever do that job again. But I guess the politicians are better than us. "Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..." Dec. of Indep.

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In France, the sicker you get, the less you pay. Chronic diseases, such as diabetes, and critical surgeries, such as a coronary bypass, are reimbursed at 100%. Cancer patients are treated free of charge. Patients suffering from colon cancer, for instance, can receive Genentech Inc.'s (DNA ) Avastin without charge. In the U.S., a patient may pay $48,000 a year.
Is this what your referring to? Seems like it worked to me. France came in number 1 in health care and the US came in 37th.
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[SDSativa]

This country does NOT have the best health care in the world ranks way behind other Industrialized nations. Yes if you can afford it, Movie stars, multi million dollar a year jobs,,yea it's the best,,but the cost is way out of line with the population. hell magic Johnson was cured of HIV,,,How much did that cost? could you or me afford it? How much is one day off life support in a ICU,,A lot, I know the hospitals Bill is over 230,000 for 4 day's so far, That's going to the innsurance company's, what if you had none? Not me someone close.

Yes, the QUALITY is better than any nations, and that is what really matters. Who cares if you "have health insurance", when you can't even get that care when it is needed. We don't turn people away if you can't afford it, or if you are not a citizen, or are having a baby. People in Canada and the U.K are having babies in toilets and in the street because they don't have enough room. People who work hard and do something with their lives deserve better care, because they earned it. Even if you're poor, you will get treated, you just gotta pay for it. This gives people the incentive to do something with their lives. What ever happened to being hard working, independant? Do you really believe it is the governments job to take care of you? Hitler sure did, and look where those people got.

 

[Mr.Therapy Man]

Magic is by no means healed and how in the hell can someone even say that.My Gall bladder surgery cost about 30,000 dollars,Someone is getting rich.This operation took about 30 minutes and two hours in recovery.Everyone should be able to afford insurence and thats all the democrats want.Big PHARMA is pushing this republican BULLSHIT.If one of your family members gets cancer with no insurence you will know what a nightmare this is

 

[fellowes]

Its because republicans will do everything possible to paint democrats (especially Obama) with anything they can and hope it sticks, even if its bad for the country, they just dont care. They know if Obama succeeds with this it will be the end of their party, plain and simple. The republican party is very desperate. They remind me of a woman that someone has dumped (voted out) and now she is going around trashing the guys (voters) new woman (obama).

Sounds right to me. +rep

 

[fellowes]

Yes, the QUALITY is better than any nations, and that is what really matters. Who cares if you "have health insurance", when you can't even get that care when it is needed. We don't turn people away if you can't afford it, or if you are not a citizen, or are having a baby. People in Canada and the U.K are having babies in toilets and in the street because they don't have enough room. People who work hard and do something with their lives deserve better care, because they earned it. Even if you're poor, you will get treated, you just gotta pay for it. This gives people the incentive to do something with their lives. What ever happened to being hard working, independant? Do you really believe it is the governments job to take care of you? Hitler sure did, and look where those people got.

US is 37th

 

[fellowes]

Magic is by no means healed and how in the hell can someone even say that.My Gall bladder surgery cost about 30,000 dollars,Someone is getting rich.This operation took about 30 minutes and two hours in recovery.Everyone should be able to afford insurence and thats all the democrats want.Big PHARMA is pushing this republican BULLSHIT.If one of your family members gets cancer with no insurence you will know what a nightmare this is

Believe me I know. My grandmother died form cancer.

 

[fellowes]

Yes, the QUALITY is better than any nations, and that is what really matters. Who cares if you "have health insurance", when you can't even get that care when it is needed. We don't turn people away if you can't afford it, or if you are not a citizen, or are having a baby. People in Canada and the U.K are having babies in toilets and in the street because they don't have enough room. People who work hard and do something with their lives deserve better care, because they earned it. Even if you're poor, you will get treated, you just gotta pay for it. This gives people the incentive to do something with their lives. What ever happened to being hard working, independant? Do you really believe it is the governments job to take care of you? Hitler sure did, and look where those people got.

You will get treated poorly. Cops don't make as much as most people with health insurance. The only reason most of them have it is because it comes with the job. So are they lazy unproductive people?

 

[Green Cross]

Magic Johnson wasn't cured. Although he is provided the medicines to survive because he has money. It also should be like that for everybody but it can't be if nobody is down with changing it.

1. Guess what, life isn't fair.

People with money - like OJ Simpson - get away with murder too.

The bankers and their rich shareholders get bailed out by the hamburger flippers (taxes), thanks to Bush & Obama. Obama's lips said, "no wall street bailouts", but his talk doesn't match his walk.

2. Healthcare isn't a right.

3. Money doesn't grow on a trees - it comes out of our pockets, and much of it is wasted as it runs into red tape. For every dollar spent by the bureaucrats in washington, 50 cents is wasted.

Where will the money come from? Us, we the people, is the government.

Don't expect rich people to take care of you, or they will be forced out of business and you will be without a job. The poor don't create jobs.

Take a look at Russia and Cuba, and know communism has already failed. There's no need to try it here in America.

I'll go a step further and say we ought to cut the taxes on the rich, since they do most of the consuming, job creation, and provide mush of the employee healthcare benefits in this country. If not they'll move more jobs over seas, to places like Ireland who have lower corporate taxes.

 

[PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1]

It's health care something we all need and is good just run bad, cause they get away with it, for now, Someone needs to address this and someone is, just not everyone is on board cause of affiliations, Sad world of affairs when there is so much hate between the powerheads, I'm going to med myself you all have fun

 

[SDSativa]

You guys act as if it is free. It's not. They are burdened with taxes on everything and the quality sucks. If you have something like PXE, like my girlfriend, you don't get treatment. You come somewhere like America. If you think it is so great, move there. Stop trying to socialize this country. We would not be who we are today if we adopted your mentality. People do anything they can to come here for our freedom, our capitalist system, our way of life. Quit trying to transform this country, it's not happening. I'm gonna go get high. Peace.

 

[hanimmal]

Well then you should think about how much you can contribute when you are sick.

A healthy nation is a wealthy nation. And guess what, it is beneficial to the job creators to have a healthy workforce.

We are not talking about a free television program here, we are talking about a health insurance program that is affordable to every American citizen. Just because you don't make too little to get aid, and not enough to be able to actually afford it, shouldn't mean that you don't get to be able to not go into bankruptcy when you get sick.

 

[fellowes]

1. Guess what, life isn't fair.

People with money - like OJ Simpson - get away with murder too.

The bankers and their rich shareholders get bailed out by the hamburger flippers (taxes), thanks to Bush & Obama. Obama's lips said, "no wall street bailouts", but his talk doesn't match his walk.

2. Healthcare isn't a right.

3. Money doesn't grow on a trees - it comes out of our pockets, and much of it is wasted as it runs into red tape. For every dollar spent by the bureaucrats in washington, 50 cents is wasted.

Where will the money come from? Us, we the people, is the government.

Don't expect rich people to take care of you, or they will be forced out of business and you will be without a job. The poor don't create jobs.

Take a look at Russia and Cuba, and know communism has already failed. There's no need to try it here in America.

I'll go a step further and say we ought to cut the taxes on the rich, since they do most of the consuming, job creation, and provide mush of the employee healthcare benefits in this country. If not they'll move more jobs over seas, to places like Ireland who have lower corporate taxes.

So let me get this right. The hamburger flippers taxes should pay for billions for the banks and shareholders. Where as the rich shouldn't have to pay as much tax because there rich. Wow good point. You do realize the hamburger flippers companies make most of the money not just the US but in the world. Where do you people keep coming up with communism? It's not communism if he's giving you a choice. Also health care should be a right now. We have cures that save lives and some people can't get them because they don't have enough money. I guess if your middle class your a bum now? That's a majority of the people who need health care. The extremely poor already have it. So why can't someone who tries to make it in the world not be able to have it.

 

[PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1]

Yes, the QUALITY is better than any nations, and that is what really matters. Who cares if you "have health insurance", when you can't even get that care when it is needed. We don't turn people away if you can't afford it, or if you are not a citizen, or are having a baby. People in Canada and the U.K are having babies in toilets and in the street because they don't have enough room. People who work hard and do something with their lives deserve better care, because they earned it. Even if you're poor, you will get treated, you just gotta pay for it. This gives people the incentive to do something with their lives. What ever happened to being hard working, independant? Do you really believe it is the governments job to take care of you? Hitler sure did, and look where those people got.

What you talking to me? I busted my ass all my life, I have nice things 36. I remeber I was 18 and was dropped from Mom and dads insurance,,,min,wage was 3.35 and I shopped for insurance no proior conditionds over 400 a month you figure the math!
I work my ass off and you know what who cares if taxes go up? Everything is going up, I pay and will continue to, cause I work!! Not only that the economics of all the debt from the past is here now,,Who cares we will continue to pay,,but there has to be a better way,,,I don't give a crap about the future genarations Debt,,They never cared for me. Think about it insted of being brainwashed, try and think for yourself

 

[B.U.D19]

Man bush is just a fall out guy 8 years ago everyone was for war.
And as far as free healthcare you pay wat you get for meaning its shit cause its free.
We have the best healthcare in the world probably so why would we change it?

 

[fellowes]

Man bush is just a fall out guy 8 years ago everyone was for war.
And as far as free healthcare you pay wat you get for meaning its shit cause its free.
We have the best healthcare in the world probably so why would we change it?

Did you read the previous posts? We rank 37 in the world which isn't bad for the world. However why not make it better if it can be done?

 

[doobnVA]

LOL@ us having the best healthcare system in the world.

sure, we PAY MORE, but that doesn't make it better. You can charge me $20 for a Big Mac, but it's still a Big Mac.

 

[spinninggorilla]

Tell us why you think health care should be a right? America has gone on with the free market for so long and know you want to socialize health care. Stop crying about a right, that everyone else works so hard to have. Yes we need reform and more competition but goverment stepping in to do the job is bad. The more the gov steps in the more choices that are takin away from us. I want freedom and the gov to stay out of the way. Yes Im a well off white guy! lol

 

[fellowes]

LOL@ us having the best healthcare system in the world.

sure, we PAY MORE, but that doesn't make it better. You can charge me $20 for a Big Mac, but it's still a Big Mac.

Yep

 

[headband707]

nothing is free look at canada how much they pay for gas or a gal of milk

Holy shit I don't want to fight here but when you say things like look at Canada you are so seriouly misinformed about how things are here!!!!! I would rather have our FREE!!!! health care here then have to go though what you guys go though to get health care covered and as far as gas and milk it's all relative.. Shit it's you guys that are paying for Bush's really bad mistakes right now so before you start slinging mud I think you should look at your own backyard and clean that up don't you think? I'm not saying it's your fault we are all victims of our Gov. bad dicisions but fuck ppl wake up and stop thinking that everyone is evil as this is not the case. I don't know who gave you this idea but your very very wrong here.. PEACE OUT Headband 707