Goverment housing, monthly inspections, and growing marijuana super stealth
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upinchronic1
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Yes my mother and i have very good communication and i can pretty much talk to her about anything, yes thats exactly what i will convinve her and i will do, and yess she is the biggest stoner i know, besides my self, you know what they say the apple doesnt fall far from the tree. its going to be damn sweet, were both going to lose that nasty whole in our pocket!!!
upinchronic1
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it will be done my friend
upinchronic1
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very nice set up though im going to have to use something that would leave not one trace of suspicion, a big ol cabinet sitting in the middle of a studio with locks on it my draw some questions, but that would be a cool set up if you had more room and a place it could blend in to, though some info off that site i will use
Gygax1974
Just some idiot
Don't woory about the taking advantage of the gov't. That last dude sounds just like our gov't. The gov't isn't paying for you electric of plant are they. I see no difference if you grow it in a section 8 house or a regular house. Just cause you and your mom need some financial help doesn't mean that I would personally hold it against you. She pays rent, she's raised you and now she needs some help.
I to was offended by the statement, taking advantage would be if you guys had a freaking cash cow growing in the section 8 housing...your growing some plants, get a nice wardrobe or dresser set-up and grom wome weed. Geez people section 8 doesn't mean he's taking advantage of anything. Some peole are less fortunate financially, doesn't mean growing some weed is taking advantage. Good luck with everything.....maybe a strain that doesn't smell too much might help you too. Some strains smell like weed, some smell starnge but not like weed.
I to was offended by the statement, taking advantage would be if you guys had a freaking cash cow growing in the section 8 housing...your growing some plants, get a nice wardrobe or dresser set-up and grom wome weed. Geez people section 8 doesn't mean he's taking advantage of anything. Some peole are less fortunate financially, doesn't mean growing some weed is taking advantage. Good luck with everything.....maybe a strain that doesn't smell too much might help you too. Some strains smell like weed, some smell starnge but not like weed.
NavajoGrower420
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Dont worry man i live in a government within a government.... the reservation. I live in a gov. house and they dont check shit man. Livin here for about a year and i get no check. My ma lives wit me also. But i got it stealthy tho. I got fed up with the dealers for overcharging a bag around here like 1 gram=25 bucks?? wtf is up with that shit!?!? So im startin to grow now.
This thread is laughable at best;
The OP comment "1. Will there be a boost in the electricity bill be enough so that they will start getting suspicious?"
THEY are paying for electricity to grow marijunana, in terms means WE are paying for it. If THEY are paying for the elctricity to grow Marijuana it doesnt matter how you spin it, its taking advantage of someone.
The OP Comment "Everyone of you is taking a huge risk by growing period. you all risk losing your house and all your posetions, so how is my risk much different than any of you indoor marijauna growers?"
Even in states where growers are not protected the risk of losing your house is slim to none on a small grow. The risk is very much different growing in other peoples homes even more so when it's other peoples money footing the bill.
Sounds like your mind is made up, I was young an naive once.. Best of luck to you and I mean that.
dishbell55
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LEAVE THE GUY ALONE GOD BLESS HIM IF THE GOVT PAYS. LOOK AT THE MONEY THEY WASTE ANYWAY. GO FOR IT.
figure out the cost of the lights. I pay 10 cents a kilo watt hour that is 1000 watts an hour. just multiply the hours by the watts and you know your cost. 150 watt should be only 1.5 cents an hour x 18 flowering is nothing. three 50 watt light bulbs a day. using cfl will even lower your price for veg. Go for it.
figure out the cost of the lights. I pay 10 cents a kilo watt hour that is 1000 watts an hour. just multiply the hours by the watts and you know your cost. 150 watt should be only 1.5 cents an hour x 18 flowering is nothing. three 50 watt light bulbs a day. using cfl will even lower your price for veg. Go for it.
upinchronic1
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Yeah man, thanks for not being a robot. Yeah very small like you said and i to cant see how it would be taking advantage of anything. I guess some people can just not feel the need to experiment like others, and like to take the safe road. The aesome thing is that i met my neighbor today and he has a medical liscence. Hes offered a stint on a somewhat big project, 25 to be exact, out here in the hawaiin islands, just arrived today actually, so im pretty phyced. Hes also thinking about letting me experiment with my light at his place
yes its true I have the goldent ticket. damn this is like a dream for me, oh yeah and what you heard about hawaiin is true, Hawaii has some nice nugget. New job: medicle marijuana grower assistant. Haaahaaa lol yesssss
upinchronic1
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HaHa yeah i just found out they dont check much at all here aswell. Like twice maby three times a year and there cool people two and my new friend here says there cool with the people they now are chill, but they are a little hard on a certain high energy crowd around here.
Shit man 25 a gram? hell do you live in Antarctica?!?!? thats shityy man like what 68ish and eith!? . yeah its up there here like i said too, 20 dollars, but shit i will be selling those 20 a gram shit soon, im the new business hippy.
Good place were your at to sell for sure though, but you probably wouldnt want to risk it with to many plants, but shit you could be a millionaire
natmoon
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Ignore the haters dude,i expect half of them are civil servants anyway just here to annoy and make people paranoid.
As you said if anyone listened you pay your own rent and your own electric bills,the govt have only provided the dwelling for occupation,you dont need some beurocratic conservative property owners that think they have any place at a weed forum telling you what you can and cant do.
Just ignore them there not worth the shit from your shoe they care more about money than they do anything or anyone else,there opinion is pathetic.
I say go for it keep it small and discreet and don't sell any just keep it for you and your mum.
Practice civil disobedience,you have hurt no one and stolen nothing,you are not a criminal,you are demonstrating the hazards and civil liberty violations of a draconian law,the only real criminal is the ones that took away your right to smoke some herb in the privacy of your own home.
Its a human rights violation in the first place that you cant have a smoke and an even bigger one that you have to live in some govt dump because they cant provide jobs for poor and impoverished peoples,because if they did provide you with decent jobs and decent pay that would mean one less Ferrari for them,not to mention the fact that they would have less people to look down upon which is what they really like because they are so hopeless and insecure they need you to make them feel bigger
As you said if anyone listened you pay your own rent and your own electric bills,the govt have only provided the dwelling for occupation,you dont need some beurocratic conservative property owners that think they have any place at a weed forum telling you what you can and cant do.
Just ignore them there not worth the shit from your shoe they care more about money than they do anything or anyone else,there opinion is pathetic.
I say go for it keep it small and discreet and don't sell any just keep it for you and your mum.
Practice civil disobedience,you have hurt no one and stolen nothing,you are not a criminal,you are demonstrating the hazards and civil liberty violations of a draconian law,the only real criminal is the ones that took away your right to smoke some herb in the privacy of your own home.
Its a human rights violation in the first place that you cant have a smoke and an even bigger one that you have to live in some govt dump because they cant provide jobs for poor and impoverished peoples,because if they did provide you with decent jobs and decent pay that would mean one less Ferrari for them,not to mention the fact that they would have less people to look down upon which is what they really like because they are so hopeless and insecure they need you to make them feel bigger
curiousgeorge22
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I wouldn't risk my mom going to jail dude. I would give up pot before risking my mom going to jail. That's just me. Good luck!
MajesticWhelk
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I'm all for growing pot, but this is a different story. You are going to not only be growing in a somewhat conservative state with no medical marijuana laws, but you are going to be growing in government housing.
I understand your situation, and I understand that it would be nice to grow weed and have free weed, but honestly you are putting both yourself and your mom at risk by doing so. Even if the inspections are being made only every once in a while, and the people are "nice," you still live in a place that can be searched without a warrant.
You said that this would mean your mom doesn't have to risk herself getting caught buying a 20 sack from a dealer. This is the least of her worries if you're growing. Actually, she's better off getting arrested for buying from a dealer than getting arrested for marijuana cultivation with intent to distribute. And if you're not 18, you'll be taken away from her, and she'll be charged with aiding and abetting the delinquency of a minor on top of that. You will both be in a world of shit, especially your mom, and if you think you're having financial problems now, wait until your mom has to pay court fees, lawyer fees, and fines that stem from your gung-ho decision to grow in a government funded apartment.
If you put two and two together, it is CLEARLY a bad decision, and I would wait until you are in the correct circumstance to grow pot. Sure, there might be a good chance you won't get caught, but if you do get caught its all gonna be over.
This isn't about "haters" and government robots telling you not to grow weed because its bad. It's a bunch of people who know what its like to be arrested, and know that it is more than possible to get caught, who are trying to look out for you and your mom. Be smart, not greedy. Think about if its really worth the risk for a minimal amount of schwag (which I'm sure is all you'll get from that setup).
MW
I understand your situation, and I understand that it would be nice to grow weed and have free weed, but honestly you are putting both yourself and your mom at risk by doing so. Even if the inspections are being made only every once in a while, and the people are "nice," you still live in a place that can be searched without a warrant.
You said that this would mean your mom doesn't have to risk herself getting caught buying a 20 sack from a dealer. This is the least of her worries if you're growing. Actually, she's better off getting arrested for buying from a dealer than getting arrested for marijuana cultivation with intent to distribute. And if you're not 18, you'll be taken away from her, and she'll be charged with aiding and abetting the delinquency of a minor on top of that. You will both be in a world of shit, especially your mom, and if you think you're having financial problems now, wait until your mom has to pay court fees, lawyer fees, and fines that stem from your gung-ho decision to grow in a government funded apartment.
If you put two and two together, it is CLEARLY a bad decision, and I would wait until you are in the correct circumstance to grow pot. Sure, there might be a good chance you won't get caught, but if you do get caught its all gonna be over.
This isn't about "haters" and government robots telling you not to grow weed because its bad. It's a bunch of people who know what its like to be arrested, and know that it is more than possible to get caught, who are trying to look out for you and your mom. Be smart, not greedy. Think about if its really worth the risk for a minimal amount of schwag (which I'm sure is all you'll get from that setup).
MW
natmoon
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What a load of paranoid overkill,he wont go to jail and have his life ruined for 2 plants and i don't remember him saying he had intent to supply,damn fear mongers.
Even the usa dont put people in jail for 2 plants im sure unless there caught selling it.
If you are under 18 though i wouldn't bother to smoke as your brain is probably not properly developed yet
Even the usa dont put people in jail for 2 plants im sure unless there caught selling it.
If you are under 18 though i wouldn't bother to smoke as your brain is probably not properly developed yet
MajesticWhelk
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Actually, here in the states under our current administration, you WILL go to jail over two plants. I don't know where you are located, but cops here don't turn a blind eye to weed.What a load of paranoid overkill,he wont go to jail and have his life ruined for 2 plants and i don't remember him saying he had intent to supply,damn fear mongers.
Even the usa dont put people in jail for 2 plants im sure unless there caught selling it.
If you are under 18 though i wouldn't bother to smoke as your brain is probably not properly developed yet
Also, you must be high if you don't remember him having intent to sell.
And being 18 has nothing to do with your brain being developed. Your brain isn't fully developed until you're in your mid to late 20's.upinchronic1 said:
Stop telling him not to listen to us and stop saying that we're paranoid and ignorant because we are not. We are merely informing him of the VERY REAL risks that he is taking not only for himself but also for his mother who is kind enough to allow him into her home. If he evaluates the risks, and decides that he still wants to do it, he is welcome to. True ignorance is pretending that the risks aren't there. He should not ignore the risks, he should realize them and act accordingly.
You've probably never been seriously arrested before and you've probably never been to jail, Nat. You've probably never had to put your parents through that and thats great, but you shouldn't act like you know what you're talking about. These risks are very real and even if probability is on his side, it doesn't make it impossible for him to be caught, even if he thinks that he can keep it on the low.
For example, he has his little op going in the back room, etc etc. He finishes smoking a joint, and he gets a knock on the door. Before checking to see who it is, he opens the door and it is an officer. Now, this officer could be asking if he was a witness to something that happened across the street (something having nothing to do with him being a criminal) and if he smells weed, or sees a pipe or a roach that was accidentally left out, he can enter the house and search. Even if he is growing super-stealth, there is still a possibility of it being recognized and discovered in the event of a search.
Stop telling people to jump of a cliff when you don't know what its like to hit the ground.
natmoon
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So officer majestic how many people do you know that are in jail for growing 2 plants?
Your saying if he makes mistakes he will get caught,well state the obvious why dont you.
I dont recall he said he wanted to be a drug dealer the bit that i read said he was pissed of with funding organized crime and paying fat pigs to get fatter when they take bribes to let the rich guy go.
You creating paranoid scenarios does nothing to help anyone,just makes you look like a little narc or a pig yourself.
We want overgrow the government here,do you even understand what The Stand is?
Go peddle your crap somewhere else,eventually there will be no room in prisons for us,civil disobedience has changed everything from slavery to women being able to vote,yes people fall along the way but we wont give up just because some fear mongers tell us to.
We are the masses,this is what we want,you will not win i hope you understand that
Your saying if he makes mistakes he will get caught,well state the obvious why dont you.
I dont recall he said he wanted to be a drug dealer the bit that i read said he was pissed of with funding organized crime and paying fat pigs to get fatter when they take bribes to let the rich guy go.
You creating paranoid scenarios does nothing to help anyone,just makes you look like a little narc or a pig yourself.
We want overgrow the government here,do you even understand what The Stand is?
Go peddle your crap somewhere else,eventually there will be no room in prisons for us,civil disobedience has changed everything from slavery to women being able to vote,yes people fall along the way but we wont give up just because some fear mongers tell us to.
We are the masses,this is what we want,you will not win i hope you understand that
MajesticWhelk
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Yet again, another rational argument wasted on a self-proclaimed revolutionary.So officer majestic how many people do you know that are in jail for growing 2 plants?
Your saying if he makes mistakes he will get caught,well state the obvious why dont you.
I dont recall he said he wanted to be a drug dealer the bit that i read said he was pissed of with funding organized crime and paying fat pigs to get fatter when they take bribes to let the rich guy go.
You creating paranoid scenarios does nothing to help anyone,just makes you look like a little narc or a pig yourself.
We want overgrow the government here,do you even understand what The Stand is?
Go peddle your crap somewhere else,eventually there will be no room in prisons for us,civil disobedience has changed everything from slavery to women being able to vote,yes people fall along the way but we wont give up just because some fear mongers tell us to.
We are the masses,this is what we want,you will not win i hope you understand that
I am not JUST saying that if he makes mistakes he will get caught, I am merely pointing out how easy it is to make a mistake. It might not even be his fault! What if its his mom who makes a clumsy mistake? Not everyone is perfect like you, Nat.
Currently, I know 3 people who are in jail for growing 6 plants or less. In the case of one of them, police found ziplock bags IN HIS KITCHEN and charged him for intent to sell, of which he was later convicted under California state law (he was not a patient). I also know another person who got 5 years probation because he was caught taking water and nutes to his ONE plant in the woods.
And yes, he explicitly said (as was contained in my quote) that he was going to sell it (for "20 dollars a gram"). If you had the capacity to read English that would be obvious to you.
And my scenarios are not paranoid, they are realistic. I am in no way a narc or pig. In fact, I harbor a passionate hatred for the big bad bacon, and I am merely trying to protect upinchronic from becoming another one of their examples of what happens to kids who grow "killer dope." I am not saying that growing is bad and that no one should do it. If I held that stance, why would I be on these forums? That should be clear to anyone who is actually comprehending what I have to say. On the contrary, I am supportive 100% of those who grow, but I still have the common sense to know when it is a good idea to grow, and when it is not. I am not an "officer" for having a genuine drive to help others protect their own freedom. In every circumstance you have to weigh out cause and effect, risk vs reward. If you think that it is intelligent to put yourself in a situation where the potential risk far outweighs potential reward, then maybe intelligence is what you lack.
And yes, for the most part, civil disobedience is the first step in affecting change. However, in the case of marijuana, changes are being made through its medical legalization, changes are made through activism and speaking out against the propaganda that is constantly being shoved down our throats. Getting caught for growing is not going to make them change their minds. And actually, yes, there will always be room in prisons for us until real INTELLIGENT points are made that will result in marijuana's legalization. Arresting a million people for growing is not going to make authorities think, "Hmm maybe we should legalize it after all." That is clearly bogus. Instead, a much smarter and more self-preserving method of making a stand would be to grow and not get caught, observing basic security guidelines and using common sense.
And in saying that I "will not win," I believe you are saying that those in favor of legalization will perish. Fighting fire with lighter fluid has never been an effective method of combat. We are all part of the movement against unjust penalization, which is why I am advising our friend here not to put himself in a position of unnecessary risk. In your line of thinking, we should all smoke in front of police just to show them how much we think we should be able to smoke. That will only result in a loss for us, and a much better method of resistance would be to smoke in a safe place behind closed doors, and educate the masses about the benefits (and lack of the opposite) of marijuana.
What you are suggesting is not civil disobedience, it is mental retardation. Look before you leap and come up with a real foundation for your argument before you go running your mouth.
VERY NICE in my best Borat voice
natmoon
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If we all had the balls to smoke in front of the police they would not be able to do anything and this dumbness would have never happened in the first place.
No one needs your fear mongery,we all know its illegal and we all know the risks.
I know that i could be arrested and caught at any moment but that will not deter me,i made a choice to come onto this forum to spread the word of,No Fear do it anyway.
Its the realization that we are kept like dumb children in fear that has forced me out into the open and as long as we are all afraid we will always be kept like sheep,i for one am sick of it and consider myself a warrior for freedom.
If i get caught i will just grow again and again and i will never admit that i have committed a crime as i have hurt no one and stolen nothing.
If as you say your country America really does put teenagers behind bars for a little bit of weed maybe its time you guys started to seriously put some pressure on your leadership to get rid of these unfair and draconian laws instead of hiding like scared sheep in your closets.
So once again i say stop spreading fear and paranoia and overgrow the law,practice civil disobedience.
I do however stand corrected on the fact that he intends to sell the weed and that is however another ball game altogether.
If you sell the weed to others then you do open yourself up to a world more of shit if you do get caught.
So my advice would be to not sell weed and only smoke it for yourself.
There are many plants out there that you can grow and sell that are worth a lot more than weed and they are completely legal
No one needs your fear mongery,we all know its illegal and we all know the risks.
I know that i could be arrested and caught at any moment but that will not deter me,i made a choice to come onto this forum to spread the word of,No Fear do it anyway.
Its the realization that we are kept like dumb children in fear that has forced me out into the open and as long as we are all afraid we will always be kept like sheep,i for one am sick of it and consider myself a warrior for freedom.
If i get caught i will just grow again and again and i will never admit that i have committed a crime as i have hurt no one and stolen nothing.
If as you say your country America really does put teenagers behind bars for a little bit of weed maybe its time you guys started to seriously put some pressure on your leadership to get rid of these unfair and draconian laws instead of hiding like scared sheep in your closets.
So once again i say stop spreading fear and paranoia and overgrow the law,practice civil disobedience.
I do however stand corrected on the fact that he intends to sell the weed and that is however another ball game altogether.
If you sell the weed to others then you do open yourself up to a world more of shit if you do get caught.
So my advice would be to not sell weed and only smoke it for yourself.
There are many plants out there that you can grow and sell that are worth a lot more than weed and they are completely legal