SOG growers wanted !!!

[LoudBlunts]

tell you what brother?

why are you drawing this out? lol. why so serious?

i blv dirty steve or someone else asked what he could do if h2o2 WASNT working...so i gave him a deadlier option. physan 20 a 7 dollar a bottle product.

then i said ewww to hygrozyme... and you called me out saying i need to say more than that. why so? not in my humble opinion. hygrozyme used to be used as a paint stripper i blv. this is why i said ew.

imo none of that shit needs to be involved in hydro, not h2o2 or none of that shit. 'organic' and hydro just dont mix in my opinion.

furthermore... the oxidization reference was me being technical in reference to you calling me out about strictly saying eww. Sue me fucker

moreover.... my kill has never been with h2o2 this is what you dont get. im cutting down nutrients by the day. roots dont like warm water and h2o2, they like cold water and DO (dissolved oxygen).

Like you say Gypsy in reference to my RO filter, why spend money (RO water) to take out money, when i have to spend money to put back in (nutrients). Well, if that is so, that would be the case for h2o2 usage, 'why spend money (h2o2) to out things that are already there and working' aka your variation ??

Make sense to me. I've always said h2o2 can keep pathogens at bay, and is far more feasible and reliable in chem ops....as if you dont have any medium to colonize, its a waste imho. however, h2o2 cannot kill everything...as just another member just said.

i dont spend extra money on none of that crap. biological pathogens or h2o2. its an added expense when it comes to hydro....now when doing organic, maybe... or OPs that have medium setups....however im still skeptical on whas organic and whas not as we know they exploit growers. I've said it once, ill say it again. roots and hydroponic reservoirs like cold water and high DO levels, not warm water with h2o2.

and before anybody compares my roots excellator to hygrozyme or whatever, please save yourself the time. i dont even use it in flower. its (roots excellator) a root stimulator and can be used just like clonex cloning solution or a stress reliever its a 5 product in one type of product.

Not to mention, i run with NO medium at all. so i cant see how something could help in my situation like that in reference to 'organic'

so like i said before, calm down gypsy, stop reaching. its all good brother. (bold reference)

 

[GypsyBush]

tell you what brother?

why are you drawing this out?

cause I LOVE YOU and I did not wnat to end this on a sour note...

lol. why so serious?

I am not good at jokes or sarcasm Bro...

it ALWAYS backfires... and as I try to "save it" I make it worse...

My forst remar to your "eewww" was MEANT very lightly and jokingly... but you did not read it that way... like I said.. I always fuck it up..

wasn't the first or the last that I fuck up things...

i blv dirty steve or someone else asked what he could do if h2o2 WASNT working...so i gave him a deadlier option. physan 20 a 7 dollar a bottle product.

Never used it, but I believe you if you say it's good...

then i said ewww to hygrozyme... and you called me out saying i need to say more than that. why so? not in my humble opinion. hygrozyme used to be used as a paint stripper i blv. this is why i said ew.

Like I said.. I was just "pulling your leg".. as I would with a friend in real life..

I wasn't even expecting a reply to be honest.. I totally expected you to get it and just blow me off... like some kind of inside joke that OBVIOUSLY didn't exist..

what can I say?

It just back fired.. several times in a row...

I never meant to confront you, or meat offense...

I have said it many times over that I have nothing but respect for you...

imo none of that shit needs to be involved in hydro, not h2o2 or none of that shit. 'organic' and hydro just dont mix in my opinion.

Well...

I think I agree with you... most of it anyway...

I guess we thinkk so differently, that if we actually sat down and TALKED for an hour, I would see you point of view... ENTIRELY...

But between your "jagged edges".. and your short answers followed by technical knowledge beyond me.. I really don;t know what your philosophy is...

you say no organic in hydro... but them you say no h2o2 as if it was part of an organic regime..

confuses the hell out of me..

Dude.. I am NOT the sharpest crayon in the box... I am easliy amused but also easily confused...

furthermore... the oxidization reference was me being technical in reference to you calling me out about strictly saying eww. Sue me fucker

I don't wanna sue you...

I want you to take one notch above EEWW and one notch below the LAB...

Eww is not enough for me... but I am simple folk... I do not wear a white coat...

What I have today .. I have because I XEROXed Fuct's op... h2o2 and all...

moreover.... my kill has never been with h2o2 this is what you dont get.

See.. you're right... I DON'T

you just threw me completely off again... I was startting to believe that you were against it...

im cutting down nutrients by the day. roots dont like warm water and h2o2, they like cold water and DO (dissolved oxygen).

And AGAIN...

Please explain to me where warm water came in to this conversation?

did you say something about warm water?

My res might be too cold if anything.. NEVER wam...

And I do not use h2o2 to add oxygen to the water.. my cold mountain water has PLENTY DO...

I use it as a pathogen control..

Now.. cutting back on nutes is awsome.. less is more..

but how does that fit in with warm water and h2o2...

Was it on purpose to throw me off???

if not, please explain I REALLY want to know...

Like you say Gypsy in reference to my RO filter, why spend money (RO water) to take out money, when i have to spend money to put back in (nutrients).

Right I asked you that... and your answer didn't convince me...

But that doesn't mean that I can't be taught, just that the specific answer you gave me did not jive in my head... it did not make me see the light..

If you believe that you are right... and I know you do... I would love to be convinced.. cause that would mean I learned something...

But it has to make sense to me...

I cannot substitute logic with something else... I get confused..

And I am NOT being sarcastic... I still love you

and I still want to go to sleep on a good note...

Well, if that is so, that would be the case for h2o2 usage, 'why spend money (h2o2) to out things that are already there and working' aka your variation ??

WOOOW..

OK.. I said you filter the water and put stuff back in... double work negating itself...

How does adding h2o2 to kill the pathogens relate to that?

I do not add organisms... my ONE NUTE is NOT organic...

I am working in ONE direction only.. removing organisms from he res...

At no point do I negate the h2o2 by adding bacteria or any other shit..

The ONLY reason it's there, is that it is my hired assassin...

Make sense to me. I've always said h2o2 can keep pathogens at bay, and is far more feasible and reliable in chem ops....

Now you are for it again??

Bro.. I tell you... fuckin A... I have no idea if you like h2o2 or not... honestly.. every paragraph sounds the opposite..

as if you dont have any medium to colonize, its a waste imho. however, h2o2 cannot kill everything...as just another member just said.

Colonize... with what?

huh? conFUCKINGfused again...

I use h2o2 exactly in hopes of PREVENTING any colonization...

I hope NO ONE lives in my hydroton...

And if h2o2 doesn't kill.. the please.. for the ELEVENTEENTH time.. what DOES it do...

As far as I know, very few things can deal with such a corrosive...

i dont spend extra money on none of that crap. biological pathogens or h2o2.

And back to against it???

Fuck me... I give up...

would you just simply say if you do like h2o2 or not????

its an added expense when it comes to hydro....now when doing organic, maybe...

HUH?!?!

I thought h2o2 was BIG NONO in organic...

or OPs that have medium setups....

Ops that have medium fall in the same category as ops with organic nutes???

So even though I buy non-organic nutes,, cause I have hydroton, I shouid not use h2o2

however im still skeptical on whas organic and whas not as we know they exploit growers.

You pretty much have to define with the person you are talking to what the definition means to you...

There are so many definitions... even coutries and governments cannot agree on a single definition...

it's no different in the marketing dept of nute companies or in the forums...

The way I treat it.. and it seems you are refering to the same thing here ( but I could just be confused..) is ORGANIC BASED FEEDING..

I have even seen ECOLOGICALLY VIABLE being used as ORGANIC regardless of nute type...

..

But in this convo.. I have treated it as I said.. ORGANIC BASED FEEDING.. vs NON ORGANIC BASED FEEDING.. Chem nutes...or salt based I have heard them being called... is that a correct term?

I've said it once, ill say it again. roots and hydroponic reservoirs like cold water and high DO levels, not warm water with h2o2.

And I will ask AGAIN...

Who's got warm water? do you?

Cause I don't and I don't remember ever saying TO ANYONE that h2o2 is used for warm water or raising DO...

I say if you got warm water... don't do hydro.. or get a chiller.. or move to alaska...

and before anybody compares my roots excellator to hygrozyme

Who did that???

I know I didn't... I know NOTHING about root excellator..

But I have used hygrozyme in the past, when I freaked out that I couldn't get h2o2, and I went organic for 2 batches... 1 FF and one Humbolt..

Then I found h2o2 and went back to my ONE chem nute and h2o2...

or whatever, please save yourself the time. i dont even use it in flower. its a root stimulator and can be used just like clonex cloning solution or a stress reliever its a 5 product in one type of product.

Yeah... I don't use any of that.. I had some cloning powder... but I used it up and I never bought more...

I have a GROW JUICE...a Bloom juice.. and h2o2... oh and water...

NOTHING else I out anywhere or on anything...

no sprays.. no molasses... no sweetner...

Just a basic mute and h2o2

and honestly... how do you tell if your plants are stressed out enough to need a stress reliever?

and what stresses them? can we avoid stressing them?

so like i said before, calm down gypsy, stop reaching.

Fuck man.. what do yo mean stop reaching?

reaching for what?

It's like you speak GREEK to me bro..

I am sure it's not on purpose.. we just process thought very differently..

I suspect we have very similar opinions... but we just keep misunderstanding each other...

I am not reaching for anything..
I have no hidden agenda...

You know more than I do... I have ALWAYS known that!!!

I was dinking around with a fucking AG barelya yrear ago.. WONDERING if I could do this... ask bugs...

You always think I am trying to star shit with you...

whether I am joking or trying to ask a serious question...

Dude.. there is no reason for you to defend your self from me.. I am not threat...

I am a newb looking up to more experienced growers and flinging thm a lil' crap now and them.. in good humor... once I consider like friends...

.

I hope we can get over this... there is a lot I can learn from you...

But whenever I get close you get up in arms bro...

Remember I am a happy go lucky hippie...

remember to add dirty, poor and old..

its all good brother. (bold reference)

I sure hope so...

cause i never meant to start shit with you...

kinda like I never meant to get shocked when I stuck my finger in the outlet...

Dumb people fuck up bro.. sorry.. I'll try to amp up mu game a bit...

 

[LoudBlunts]

HOLY FUCK!!!! this is what i be talking about!!!!!!!

you are predictable as hell!!! i just knew you would break it down.... aint no way in hell im replying to all that shit

like i said you are reading tooooooo far into it. you can ask bugs, i joke just as much as you do, but you are reading too deep right now.

bugs will also tell you i dont knock h2o2. i just dont use it period. i have no need. cold water and high DO is the only thing i need. i spend around 200 bucks if not less for nutes ( a whole year)... 10 rounds of 50 gallons. thas ALOT of crop. i've cut back on only shit i need. what you still dont understand is Im not knocking shit, nor any h2o2. Its just like hydroguard, another nutrient i dont need. This is what you are not understanding.

Also you need not to take my words so heavy. I smoke way too much reefer to be mad or pissed. most of the time im laughing.... im sure bugs can vouch for this. many people mistake my words.

 

[GypsyBush]

I REALLY wish you would break it down and answer my questions...
not for argument's sake... but for clarification...

you confused the shit out of me..

but oh well..

I will just keep doing what I am doing until I learn something better...
Glad you're not mad at me...

Good night...... see you guys later...

 

[LoudBlunts]

cause I LOVE YOU and I did not wnat to end this on a sour note...



I am not good at jokes or sarcasm Bro...

ok. all good?

it ALWAYS backfires... and as I try to "save it" I make it worse...

not worse at all, just thinking too hard, breath in the reefer brother!!!!

My forst remar to your "eewww" was MEANT very lightly and jokingly... but you did not read it that way... like I said.. I always fuck it up..

i get it, which is why i got technical with you, yanno? pulling yer leg like you pulls mine?

wasn't the first or the last that I fuck up things...

like i said, all good brother, dont kick yerself, all good

Never used it, but I believe you if you say it's good...



Like I said.. I was just "pulling your leg".. as I would with a friend in real life..

errr?? me too

I wasn't even expecting a reply to be honest.. I totally expected you to get it and just blow me off... like some kind of inside joke that OBVIOUSLY didn't exist..

what can I say?

It just back fired.. several times in a row...

I never meant to confront you, or meat offense...

I have said it many times over that I have nothing but respect for you...

see? this is where you are thinking too far into it....just because i dont always use smilies doesnt mean i have serious face on...just too lazy to pull them up remember inhale the ganga with me now gypsy



Well...

I think I agree with you... most of it anyway...

I guess we thinkk so differently, that if we actually sat down and TALKED for an hour, I would see you point of view... ENTIRELY...

yes, but you would need to slow down, no need to drive so fast

But between your "jagged edges".. and your short answers followed by technical knowledge beyond me.. I really don;t know what your philosophy is...

you say no organic in hydro... but them you say no h2o2 as if it was part of an organic regime..

i say no h2o2, just because its another expense...i've stated this plenty of times. roots and hydroponic reservoirs like cold water and high DO, not warm water with h2o2. just because i dont use h2o2, surely you cant be implying that its organic, no?

confuses the hell out of me..

Dude.. I am NOT the sharpest crayon in the box... I am easliy amused but also easily confused...

said it once, say it again, just because i dont use h2o2 doesnt mean that im organic. why would i need to use ANOTHER additive (h2o2) when i dont have pathogen problems? YOU DONT NEED IT, IMHO. cold water and HIGH DO is all you need, imho!!!!!!







I don't wanna sue you...

joke?

I want you to take one notch above EEWW and one notch below the LAB...

sure, when i get technical, you back into your AL B. Fuct corner, and that is fine...so while i extend my hand... you get defensive...so why do i need to elaborate, when i do plenty.... 'you can lead the horse to the water.....'

Eww is not enough for me... but I am simple folk... I do not wear a white coat...

i've explained it plenty o times before, see previous

What I have today .. I have because I XEROXed Fuct's op... h2o2 and all...

yes, i know this


See.. you're right... I DON'T

you just threw me completely off again... I was startting to believe that you were against it...

reading too deep, i speak in general, not just direct to you



And AGAIN...

Please explain to me where warm water came in to this conversation?

speaking in general again. this is another example of you reading too deep

did you say something about warm water?

see previous

My res might be too cold if anything.. NEVER wam...

And I do not use h2o2 to add oxygen to the water.. my cold mountain water has PLENTY DO...

I use it as a pathogen control..

Now.. cutting back on nutes is awsome.. less is more..

but how does that fit in with warm water and h2o2...

Was it on purpose to throw me off???

if not, please explain I REALLY want to know...


hmmm, i dont see how i could have made it any simplier. my base nutes PERIOD, not grow nutes or blooms, but my nutes period, that i use for both stages A & B is ALL that i use. NO h2o2 which is an additive, no other shit...nothing except for my flowering boosters and stimulators which arent needed but it increases way heavier yields.

this is what i am talking about. im very simple, yet people think its harder than what im saying, cutting back on all additives period. nothing against h2o2 just an added expense that i could be using elsewhere, imo




Right I asked you that... and your answer didn't convince me...


you still reading too hard, it was in reference to an analogy of me spending my money to buy h2o2 when i dont need it

But that doesn't mean that I can't be taught, just that the specific answer you gave me did not jive in my head... it did not make me see the light..

see previous

If you believe that you are right... and I know you do... I would love to be convinced.. cause that would mean I learned something...

But it has to make sense to me...

I cannot substitute logic with something else... I get confused..

And I am NOT being sarcastic... I still love you

and I still want to go to sleep on a good note...




WOOOW..

OK.. I said you filter the water and put stuff back in... double work negating itself...

see previous

How does adding h2o2 to kill the pathogens relate to that?

see previous

I do not add organisms... my ONE NUTE is NOT organic...

who adds organisms? who is organic? certainly not me. you have obviously missed that i dont buy different grow and bloom nutrients. i buy a & b that i use for both grow and bloom stage. and it is chem. what are these organisms that you speak of? are you assuming again? the only thing i add other than my base nutes which can be used for both grow AND bloom not separate nutes are flowering boosters and stimulators which i described earlier THIS is what makes my head hurt gypsy.... i say this shit on the regular and you claim that i dont tell you this, nor do i elaborate...and thas bullshit bro... you know you have selective reading

I am working in ONE direction only.. removing organisms from he res...

again? what organisms? i dont have organisms in my res.... and have one of the cleanest running res

At no point do I negate the h2o2 by adding bacteria or any other shit..

okay gyp

The ONLY reason it's there, is that it is my hired assassin...

hmmm


Now you are for it again??

Bro.. I tell you... fuckin A... I have no idea if you like h2o2 or not... honestly.. every paragraph sounds the opposite..

no, you just dont know anybetter



Colonize... with what?

huh? conFUCKINGfused again...

I use h2o2 exactly in hopes of PREVENTING any colonization...

I hope NO ONE lives in my hydroton...

And if h2o2 doesn't kill.. the please.. for the ELEVENTEENTH time.. what DOES it do...

As far as I know, very few things can deal with such a corrosive...

you obviously arent reading. this is speaking in general again.




And back to against it???

Fuck me... I give up...

would you just simply say if you do like h2o2 or not????

you need to read read and read. no i dont use nor need h2o2...dont need to. i run a chem op with cold water and high DO all i need.



HUH?!?!

I thought h2o2 was BIG NONO in organic...





Ops that have medium fall in the same category as ops with organic nutes???



So even though I buy non-organic nutes,, cause I have hydroton, I shouid not use h2o2





You pretty much have to define with the person you are talking to what the definition means to you...



There are so many definitions... even coutries and governments cannot agree on a single definition...

it's no different in the marketing dept of nute companies or in the forums...

The way I treat it.. and it seems you are refering to the same thing here ( but I could just be confused..) is ORGANIC BASED FEEDING..

what the hell are you talking about? you are the only one talking about organic here...... just because i dont run h2o2 that means im organically feeding? lol you say you work off logic, doesnt seem much substance there!

I have even seen ECOLOGICALLY VIABLE being used as ORGANIC regardless of nute type...

..

But in this convo.. I have treated it as I said.. ORGANIC BASED FEEDING.. vs NON ORGANIC BASED FEEDING.. Chem nutes...or salt based I have heard them being called... is that a correct term?



And I will ask AGAIN...

Who's got warm water? do you?

Cause I don't and I don't remember ever saying TO ANYONE that h2o2 is used for warm water or raising DO...

I say if you got warm water... don't do hydro.. or get a chiller.. or move to alaska...



Who did that???

I know I didn't... I know NOTHING about root excellator..

But I have used hygrozyme in the past, when I freaked out that I couldn't get h2o2, and I went organic for 2 batches... 1 FF and one Humbolt..

Then I found h2o2 and went back to my ONE chem nute and h2o2...




Yeah... I don't use any of that.. I had some cloning powder... but I used it up and I never bought more...

I have a GROW JUICE...a Bloom juice.. and h2o2... oh and water...

NOTHING else I out anywhere or on anything...

no sprays.. no molasses... no sweetner...

Just a basic mute and h2o2

and honestly... how do you tell if your plants are stressed out enough to need a stress reliever?

and what stresses them? can we avoid stressing them?



Fuck man.. what do yo mean stop reaching?

reaching for what?

It's like you speak GREEK to me bro..

I am sure it's not on purpose.. we just process thought very differently..

I suspect we have very similar opinions... but we just keep misunderstanding each other...

I am not reaching for anything..
I have no hidden agenda...

You know more than I do... I have ALWAYS known that!!!

I was dinking around with a fucking AG barelya yrear ago.. WONDERING if I could do this... ask bugs...

You always think I am trying to star shit with you...

whether I am joking or trying to ask a serious question...

Dude.. there is no reason for you to defend your self from me.. I am not threat...

I am a newb looking up to more experienced growers and flinging thm a lil' crap now and them.. in good humor... once I consider like friends...

.

I hope we can get over this... there is a lot I can learn from you...

But whenever I get close you get up in arms bro...

Remember I am a happy go lucky hippie...

remember to add dirty, poor and old..



I sure hope so...

cause i never meant to start shit with you...

kinda like I never meant to get shocked when I stuck my finger in the outlet...

Dumb people fuck up bro.. sorry.. I'll try to amp up mu game a bit...

i answered most....and that is too much work.... gypsy you need to smoke a bowl...a couple of.

my response are in bold

 

[grandpabear3]

lets compare my roots vs your roots vs gypsy roots.


i put 5 franklins up i have THE cleanest runnest res,

the WHITEST roots and dare I say loveliest?

cleanest res...sure, whitest roots, possibly. but thats not fair cause your res is clear mine is ....idkwtf color mine is but the roots take on a tint. but loveliest.......sir, that is where i draw the line. i will not stand idly by while you call my ladies undercarriage anything other than beautiful. take that! and now imma have to take a pic of roots......ought to be fun.

Dude I post cause I'm proud and people like nice pics... but that is not saying I think I am better... just shamelessly proud...

But very aware that there are MUCH better growers out there...like youand Bugs for example...



But I HAVE NEVER called anyone out to SHOW ME YOUR ROOTS... MINE ARE BETTER like you just did...

As for dishing and taking.. I guess I didn;t get it...

lol@gypsy .....i like how your smart assery works......but seriously, passive aggressive people suck. and why am i gettin drug into this? i just wanted to stir the pot a bit....you two are having fun all by yourselves.

HOLY FUCK!!!! this is what i be talking about!!!!!!!

you are predictable as hell!!! i just knew you would break it down.... aint no way in hell im replying to all that shit

like i said you are reading tooooooo far into it. you can ask bugs, i joke just as much as you do, but you are reading too deep right now.

bugs will also tell you i dont knock h2o2. i just dont use it period.

Also you need not to take my words so heavy. I smoke way too much reefer to be mad or pissed. most of the time im laughing.... im sure bugs can vouch for this. many people mistake my words.

can vouch for the sense of humor, and you only knock h2o2 when people are battling some form of rot in the res....i believe you've stated it wont get rid of it all the way.but i digress.

what the gypsy is yammering on about is the part where you go back and forth on it. (it seems) i know better.....its just how the post reads.

h2o2 is in and of itself part of REAL, not RIU organic chemistry. it just so happens to be one of the more volitile nasty corrosive organic substances known to common man.
(for reference sake, i am a chemical operator. take it or leave it fellas)
it is not part of "organic" growing.
this may be PART of where yalls wires are getting crossed.
when h2o2 comes into contact with any other organic (living) substance it breaks it down by oxidizing it wich does in fact kill it. oxydation produces o2 folks, warm or cold....cold holds it better and longer and in higher concentration but thats why we ALL have cold water res's.
not trying to have class. just reading into the questions and seeing how far you two keep getting away from the issue thats confusing the gypsy about your posts. again.....i dont care and you two might not either but this is organic chemistry law. now hygrozyme.....hehehehehehe it worked for me but lots asnd lots of people had problems with it so i quit messing with it, figuring i was lucky. but it is an enzyme and enzymes do feed organisms (good or bad) so where in lies the problem with the poor dirty old hippies postings concerning it.

just curiuos.

ok.....bring it, susan..........call my roots not lovely...boy i tell ya

 

[LoudBlunts]

oh hush it... the contest was me just being a weedbaron

i mean i thought you knew fool!!!

WDBN4LYFE$0n!!!!!

 

[LoudBlunts]

also, people still bring up organic

what is that?

i am chem OP, spankyouverymuch


just because i dont use h2o2 doesnt make me not chem OP...lol

my cold water and High DO is good enough! bad bacteria is anaerabic sucks for them if i ever had any

 

[grandpabear3]

oh hush it... the contest was me just being a weedbaron

i mean i thought you knew fool!!!

WDBN4LYFE$0n!!!!!

of course i knew that silly.....calm down you! the gypsy isnt here anymore....lol

also, people still bring up organic

what is that?

i am chem OP, spankyouverymuch


just because i dont use h2o2 doesnt make me not chem OP...lol

my cold water and High DO is good enough! bad bacteria is anaerabic sucks for them if i ever had any

no, you asshat (thank you, i love saying that) I AM A CHEMICAL OPERATOR!!!! NOT i use chemicals in my operation.
its a profession in the chemistry field.

 

[LoudBlunts]

you used to be

*ducks

 

[grandpabear3]

you used to be

*ducks

omfg.......wow......i was wondering if you would do that!

well i am still a chemical operator. just in between jobs now.

cut me deep.......you cut me real deep just then.

jk.....nice one

 

[LoudBlunts]

well had to fuck with ya, you've been mia... everything coughcough

so yea... bout time you came out the shadows

 

[grandpabear3]

never know how far you'll go with an e beat down, and gypsy is a world class instigator/smartass so i got popcorn and butter and a chair.
good times

 

[LoudBlunts]

hey i dont know whatcha yatombout willis!!!

 

[GypsyBush]

So LB...

if I get what you are saying (via Bug's "translation)..

are you saying that cold water and high DO is enough as pathogen prevention?

That I do not need to buy h2o2, cause cold water alone will keep my plants healthy???

 

[grandpabear3]

somebody give that boy a cookie!

 

[LoudBlunts]

somebody give that boy a cookie!

amen!!!!


by gosh i think he's got it!!!!

 

[GypsyBush]

Well...

NO ONE came out and said that in a simple manner...

Not Fuct.. Not Bugs.. Not LB..Not Potroast... NOT A SINGLE PERSON ... said that to me... EVER...

I have always believed that YOU NEED TO HAVE either h2o2 OR the damned beneficial becteria.. OR some other product to CONTROL THE BAD GROWIES...

So a person that that has cold water is home free eh?!?!?!

No worries at all.....

Wel.. THAT'S GOOD...

Then Ii will stop using h2o2 and now my op has just a chem Grow juice... and a chem Bloom juice...

No cloning sauces, root stimulators, additives or anything else..

I LIKE THAT..!!!!

Thanks Guys...!!!

..

So does that mean that Fuct was just being wasteful??

 

[grandpabear3]

Well...

NO ONE came out and said that in a simple manner...

boo hoo....shut it, you!

Not Fuct.. Not Bugs.. Not LB..Not Potroast... NOT A SINGLE PERSON ... said that to me... EVER...

truth be told i think your a passive aggressive poopypants who got way too popular way too fast. you argue unless you think you can benefit from someones op. i've never had anything to offer you, i just like messing around a bit.

I have always believed that YOU NEED TO HAVE either h2o2 OR the damned beneficial becteria.. OR some other product to CONTROL THE BAD GROWIES...

al uses it for cleaning and preventive measures for pathogen control. not a cure all.

So a person that that has cold water is home free eh?!?!?!

well they are a damned sight better than anyone with luke warm to warm water.

No worries at all.....

Wel.. THAT'S GOOD...

Then Ii will stop using h2o2 and now my op has just a chem Grow juice... and a chem Bloom juice...

No cloning sauces, root stimulators, additives or anything else..

I LIKE THAT..!!!!

Thanks Guys...!!!

imho....this is more of your b.s. smartassery. maybe not, but i'll hush cause you have as many groupies on here as stink does and look what happened when i disagreed with him.
..

So does that mean that Fuct was just being wasteful??

*sigh*....i hate you gypsy! (said with cartmans voice)

proactive, not wastefull. he didnt run a chiller and prided himself on his tapwater. and his semi-subterranean op local. the latter of which would obviosly help with temps.

point is, his water was decent and cool and he used the shit to keep any boogers at bay.

 

[GypsyBush]

Originally Posted by GypsyBush

Well...

NO ONE came out and said that in a simple manner...

boo hoo....shut it, you!

Why boo... cause I'm ignorant.?

If I had understood it before... do you think I would have signed my name and spent money on h2o2?




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Not Fuct.. Not Bugs.. Not LB..Not Potroast... NOT A SINGLE PERSON ... said that to me... EVER...

truth be told i think your a passive aggressive poopypants who got way too popular way too fast. you argue unless you think you can benefit from someones op. i've never had anything to offer you, i just like messing around a bit.

What does popular have to do with anything...

I am a NEWB... trying to learn the best way...

I am not passive or agressive... just a lil' crazy (really)..

A lil' off.. add that to being a traveler most of my life and you get a pretty fucked up individual, by normal standards...

And I hate arguing..

But I do enjoy debating...

And it does take a lil' longer for things to sink in with me...

Hell ENGLISH is not even my native language...

I think I am doing a fair job considering how fucked in the head I am and that I didn't Start speking english until I was 17... there are 3 other languages that I speak way better than english...

So do forgive me.. if something doesn't sink right away...

But if anyone had used DIRECT words to explain what took a whole page...

I would have got it...

Complicate it.. fragment it and I get lost...

I know I do... I am not that smart and I got no problem admitting to it...

But I am not here cause of popularity...

I am here to make my op better.. and try to help as I was helped when I first came here with my lil' AG...

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I have always believed that YOU NEED TO HAVE either h2o2 OR the damned beneficial becteria.. OR some other product to CONTROL THE BAD GROWIES...

al uses it for cleaning and preventive measures for pathogen control. not a cure all.

Now you are defending using h2o2...

you see ...

that is what confuses me...

Is it ok to use it as a preventative measure?

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So a person that that has cold water is home free eh?!?!?!

well they are a damned sight better than anyone with luke warm to warm water.

I knew THAT much...

But I did not know if you had cold water and high DO, that you do not need pathogen control..

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No worries at all.....

Wel.. THAT'S GOOD...

Then Ii will stop using h2o2 and now my op has just a chem Grow juice... and a chem Bloom juice...

No cloning sauces, root stimulators, additives or anything else..

I LIKE THAT..!!!!

Thanks Guys...!!!

imho....this is more of your b.s. smartassery. maybe not, but i'll hush cause you have as many groupies on here as stink does and look what happened when i disagreed with him.

Why is it BS?

Fuck the groupies...

Tell me... like a man.. in simple terms.. directly..

in a way I can understand...

You will not offend me...

Help me be a better person... and to understand more...

Seriously...

Treat me like a 5 year old..

Tell me like it is,, in simple terms I can understand..
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So does that mean that Fuct was just being wasteful??

*sigh*....i hate you gypsy! (said with cartmans voice)

Just because I try to understand things?

It's not my fault you guys have more experience and are smarter than I am...

proactive, not wastefull.

So what is the difference between me and him?

Why is it wasteful in my op, but not in his???

I don't get it..

I copy the guy.. I use the same stuff in the same manner...

But in my case it's unecessary and in his it's a preventative measure?

he didnt run a chiller and prided himself on his tapwater

.

Just like me... no chiller.. happy tap with my tap water...

and his semi-subterranean op local. the latter of which would obviosly help with temps.

I am not subterranean, but Alaska ought to make for that as far as helping with the temps...

point is, his water was decent and cool and he used the shit to keep any boogers at bay.

Same thing I do...

I copy the guy...

I just do not understand AGAIN...

why it's not wasteful in Fuct's op and it is in mine...

Don;t get mad guys...

I am here LITERALLY with my tail between my legs, shaking cause what I thought was right.. is now a HUGE BALL OF CONFUSION again...

I thouhgt I had it sorted out a minute ago...

But now I am confused again...

Have a little patience.. I will only need to get it ONCE.. but I obviously haven't yet...

Despite the false alarm earlier...

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SO the question persists...

Should I, or should I not use 50% h2o2 @ 1ml/L (as per Fuct's recipe) in my op???

Is it a waste of money or not?