250w HPS Club And Help Guide

The2TimEr

The2TimEr

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tom__420 said:
A guano tea is when you mix the guana into water and let it bubble with an air pump and air stone. It will turn the water and guano mixture into a tea
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Ah ok so the water doesnt need to be hot?
And im not sure what an air stone is, sure i can get an air pump easily enough
Thanks for the help
 
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Wretched420

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The2TimEr said:
Ah ok so the water doesnt need to be hot?
And im not sure what an air stone is, sure i can get an air pump easily enough
Thanks for the help
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hey bro heres some notes that could be very useful i had some Ph problems when using guano as a top dressing and that lead to a whole bunch of issues...

guanos should really be used in a tea, rather than being top dressed on btw.

Organics can be used with ro water 'stax', so long as the organics contain some micro source. The more common problem with organics is people mixing their poop soups and not allowing adequate time for the pH to come to a balance. It always needs to be aerated, bubbled or circulated for a good overnight or better to allow it's pH to settle, then pH it and bubble some more. Check it...then feed. Organics like earth juice for example are notorious for this need to stew it before use pH'ing situation.

A lot of folks just mix their poop soups, check the pH and dump it in the planters.
Where its unstable pH plummets without notice causing the lockouts.

This is another reason why guanos shouldn't be top dressed on, but rather stewed & bubbled into a nice tea form...

ph stability... Note that the minerals in tap water/nutes will buffer against a ph drop and it will take acid up to a point, then after the buffer effect (total alkalinity) has been overcome, the ph drops with very little acid. Tap water needs to sit at least an hour after adding acid before an accurate ph reading becomes available. If you don't use up the buffer and test right away, in an hour or so that ph will go right back up close to it's original ph.


hope this helps..bongsmilie:eyesmoke::eyesmoke:
 
Doobieus

Doobieus

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Wretched420 said:
hey bro heres some notes that could be very useful i had some Ph problems when using guano as a top dressing and that lead to a whole bunch of issues...

guanos should really be used in a tea, rather than being top dressed on btw.

Organics can be used with ro water 'stax', so long as the organics contain some micro source. The more common problem with organics is people mixing their poop soups and not allowing adequate time for the pH to come to a balance. It always needs to be aerated, bubbled or circulated for a good overnight or better to allow it's pH to settle, then pH it and bubble some more. Check it...then feed. Organics like earth juice for example are notorious for this need to stew it before use pH'ing situation.

A lot of folks just mix their poop soups, check the pH and dump it in the planters.
Where its unstable pH plummets without notice causing the lockouts.

This is another reason why guanos shouldn't be top dressed on, but rather stewed & bubbled into a nice tea form...

ph stability... Note that the minerals in tap water/nutes will buffer against a ph drop and it will take acid up to a point, then after the buffer effect (total alkalinity) has been overcome, the ph drops with very little acid. Tap water needs to sit at least an hour after adding acid before an accurate ph reading becomes available. If you don't use up the buffer and test right away, in an hour or so that ph will go right back up close to it's original ph.


hope this helps..bongsmilie:eyesmoke::eyesmoke:
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Good info Wretched and Tom, I really should log in more often lol.

Anyhow to add....

Nestle Pure Life water is R/O treated/filtered and has a 7.0 Ph every time I've checked it, used it for almost every watering except 2 for the past 2 grows, works like a charm. It has Mag, Cal and Sulphur in it as well.

Hope this helps some.
 
tom__420

tom__420

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Doobieus said:
Good info Wretched and Tom, I really should log in more often lol.

Anyhow to add....

Nestle Pure Life water is R/O treated/filtered and has a 7.0 Ph every time I've checked it, used it for almost every watering except 2 for the past 2 grows, works like a charm. It has Mag, Cal and Sulphur in it as well.

Hope this helps some.
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Do you know what the ppm's are of that water?
 
Skryptz

Skryptz

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yes i know doob, but you know my broke assd ont have a camera lmao! my buddys supposed to be givin me one so hopefully i will soon, but yea i was reading about lockout an was thinkin the same thing
 
Doobieus

Doobieus

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Skryptz said:
yes i know doob, but you know my broke assd ont have a camera lmao! my buddys supposed to be givin me one so hopefully i will soon, but yea i was reading about lockout an was thinkin the same thing
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Lol sorry forgot, I gotta stop tokin' so damn much lol.

About how many weeks are you into bloom?
 
Skryptz

Skryptz

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lol i hear ya there, i havent kept count unforunately, prob round 5-6 weeks, was kind of a throw n let it go, but should of known with my luck this one wasnt gonna go as smooth as last, i know they have some nice buds forming, jus they quit lol exactly how do u flush? an can i buy that clearex at like wal-mart or lowes?
 
Doobieus

Doobieus

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Skryptz said:
lol i hear ya there, i havent kept count unforunately, prob round 5-6 weeks, was kind of a throw n let it go, but should of known with my luck this one wasnt gonna go as smooth as last, i know they have some nice buds forming, jus they quit lol exactly how do u flush? an can i buy that clearex at like wal-mart or lowes?
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Probably not, it's made by Botanicare. You could probably find it at a local hydro/garden store. If you use Clearex 1-2 tablespoons per gallon, water normally. Cut back on the nutes and totally cut the molasses when you do use the Clearex. It's a leeching solution, 1-3 treatments of Clearex and you should be golden.

Also make sure you use enough water to have it run off like almost as much water as the pot can hold, saturate it well, and leave it alone until it needs water again, do this 1-2 more times after that (Make sure to ease up on the nutes a lil' and kill the molasses use for now), same deal, unless the plants show they're getting better. You can start use of molasses when they get better, but I'd recommend doing a Clearex treatment every now and again to help with the salt build up the molasses can create.

Clearex is also good for preharvest and for leeching/flushing out the nutrients inbetween veg and bloom.

Hope this helps.
 
mrfloaty

mrfloaty

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high everyone thought would ask your opinon in my latest closet grow,
i used a 250watt duel spec hps light with a cool hood chade attached a inline fan and carbon filter, i had 4 diferent plants 4 way special, ajan haze # 3 and two others i produced seeds from previuse mothers i hade, i called then mrfloay haze # 1 and 2 lol,
i used canna cocco and all there nuts and feed regeme i got 7.3 dry oz from the lot next time i gonna go for 1g per watt so 8.9 oz i think....... mission on......

what you think?????
 

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Wretched420

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mrfloaty said:
high everyone thought would ask your opinon in my latest closet grow,
i used a 250watt duel spec hps light with a cool hood chade attached a inline fan and carbon filter, i had 4 diferent plants 4 way special, ajan haze # 3 and two others i produced seeds from previuse mothers i hade, i called then mrfloay haze # 1 and 2 lol,
i used canna cocco and all there nuts and feed regeme i got 7.3 dry oz from the lot next time i gonna go for 1g per watt so 8.9 oz i think....... mission on......

what you think?????
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haha those look like some nice buds and a mad nice harvest there bro!!bongsmilie
 
The2TimEr

The2TimEr

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Thanks for the very useful info guys,
Looked on the tub of guano properly and it mentions on there about the tea. i am going to try this for the next feed deffo, m8 of mine has the air pump i can borrow so i'l see how that goes. Didnt know i could effect the PH so bad by just top dressing the soil and its even worse as i dont even have a PH meter !! Will have one soon tho so i should be fine.
Thanks again ppl much appreciated. :-P
 
Skryptz

Skryptz

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username420 an floaty lookin damn good! thats a monster bud there tho....but Doob!

Thanks for the directions, is there a way to make a homemade?should i keep flushing them with reg. water until i do get that ClearEx an should i keep light on them?
 
Doobieus

Doobieus

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mrfloaty said:
high everyone thought would ask your opinon in my latest closet grow,
i used a 250watt duel spec hps light with a cool hood chade attached a inline fan and carbon filter, i had 4 diferent plants 4 way special, ajan haze # 3 and two others i produced seeds from previuse mothers i hade, i called then mrfloay haze # 1 and 2 lol,
i used canna cocco and all there nuts and feed regeme i got 7.3 dry oz from the lot next time i gonna go for 1g per watt so 8.9 oz i think....... mission on......

what you think?????
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Good stuff Floaty, smoke on bongsmilie.

The2TimEr said:
Thanks for the very useful info guys,
Looked on the tub of guano properly and it mentions on there about the tea. i am going to try this for the next feed deffo, m8 of mine has the air pump i can borrow so i'l see how that goes. Didnt know i could effect the PH so bad by just top dressing the soil and its even worse as i dont even have a PH meter !! Will have one soon tho so i should be fine.
Thanks again ppl much appreciated. :-P
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Sounds good, and no problem we're here to help :mrgreen:.

Skryptz said:
username420 an floaty lookin damn good! thats a monster bud there tho....but Doob!

Thanks for the directions, is there a way to make a homemade?should i keep flushing them with reg. water until i do get that ClearEx an should i keep light on them?
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Home made not to my knowledge....?

Keep flushing with regular Ph'd water (Of course :eyesmoke:), but Clearex is a pretty good investment for almost any soil grower in my opinion.
 
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