You are all being so stupid and narrow minded. I am using 2 105w 6400k CFL, and believe me they are a lot cooler than a 70w hps. I do have to appologize for not having adequate cash to offord a 1000w and a 1000cfm can-fan/ filter. Unfortunately I had to buy a cheap 4" votex and a small 100cfm filter.yes I do...but seriously...growing with CFLs is far from advanced......it's for tiny harvesting newbs...that don't listen and waste money instead of investing in proper lighting....
CFL's are not just for newbs that don't listen and waste money they are for ppl that are in a situation where HID's are unreasonable and unpractical. I know that if I put a 175w MH it would cook my pants and even in a 13 cubic feet dresser and about 75cfm venting it can be a pain keeping temps below 85. Use your imagination and guess what a HID would do in there. All I can really say is how ignorant a person can be with a statement like your and the rest of you narrow minders lol.