Are MMJ patients paying illegal prices?

[420OldSchoolDJ420]

Umm I don't think she has a business selling MJ bro. Im pretty sure she has some legitimate business providing some kind of service or product. I could be wrong about it, but to me it looks like you kinda stuck your foot in your mouth.

Im under the impression that she was reffering to her MMJ grow op.. But it doesnt matter.. I could honestly care less now..

 

[can.i.buz]

ok.. ill play.

my advice to you is to GET A REAL FUCKING JOB and stop trying to get rich off of sick people.. People like YOU make ME sick(er).. you say your an "entrepreneur".. Well I call you a glorified drug dealer.. If you were truly an "entrepreneur" you could and would make money other ways besides trying to bilk every cent you can from sick people.. I dont think you have ever done anything to make as much money as you do "selling MJ".. Thats why YOU are the one that thinks prices shouldnt drop below a certain price for MMJ.. If you want to make your money, then continue selling to your rich friends and/or your local high school kids.. Im sure they wont mind paying your prices.. But you should leave the MMJ comminity alone as your nothing but a greedy,lazy wannabe buisnessman ( err, woman ) that has no other buisness skills other than growing some weed and selling it for a 10000% profit..

your turn

no comment. Please refer back to my comments about your LACK of entrepreneurial skills. And FYI, to date I have not made one DIME off of MMJ!

 

[NoDrama]

sunlight - $0.00
dirt - $0.00
rain - $0.00

not having to buy a new set of rims for your local drug dealer?

PRICELESS

Having the Feds come and cut your crop down...$0

Spending time in a court trying to defend yourself with a court appointed attorney...$0

Getting thrown in ass rape prison for a victimless crime....Priceless!!


If you ask me the chance of getting thrown in ass rape prison alone is going to be worth $250 an ounce alone

 

[420OldSchoolDJ420]

lol i think your just flat out lying now.. Cant argue with a liar.. Its a neverending circle.. Ill leave this thread to you to have at it as you wish.. This isnt fun or useful anymore. Gl with your ventures in the future..

 

[kronic1989]

sunlight - $0.00
dirt - $0.00
rain - $0.00

not having to buy a new set of rims for your local drug dealer?

PRICELESS

He is just a little mad that he is totally wrong. He can try to take it out drug dealers. But most are busy selling drugs and not on RIU.

Sunlight dirt and rain are good enough to make marijuana for recreational use only. You have not read any of the posts about the quality of medicine? You want the seriously ill to be smoking bud that has not been kept in tip top shape?


I bet if you calculated how much it would cost in electric trimmers and workers to cultivate your MASS field of MJ, 25 dollars an ounce wouldnt cut it. And thats not even mentioning any other costs.

 

[can.i.buz]

The numbers may be little off but they are a good average and very close.
Ok let’s assume your room is 4*6 with 2000watts and flowering is 77 days. You want to provide a high grade medication that is organically grown in a controlled environment. Let’s assume that you are a master grower and can get 4 dried lb. in this area and with this lighting.
Expense
Lease let’s say 800 per month
2053
Electricity (fans, cooling, pumps, lights, etc)
288
Nutrients let’s say Botanicarepro bloom, liquid karma, and cal-Mag,
150
Plants ready to flower 78
1560
Supplies ph control and other control , pots, etc
200
Water
90
Labor let’s say 1hr per day at 20 bucks per hr
770
Labor to finish trim let’s say 4hr per dried lb.
320
Filters fans other stuff that needs replacement
300

5731 dollars total


So this averages out to around 57 dollars per ounce. Now let’s not forget that the industry is still illegal under federal law, so do you think you might want to be prepared to pay legal bills? You might think about making a little for yourself, I mean just a little for yourself.

4lb is 64 ounces, 64 ounces times 25 dollars is 1600 dollars. That’s a 4131 dollar loss. Even if you take out the ready to flower clones the loss is still 2571 dollars, but then we would have to add the cost of seeds, vegetation, cloning, and vegetating the clones back into the total loss. Hell let’s take out the lease; you still have a loss of 518 dollars. Let’s say it’s a labor of love take the labor out (our still getting paid for the trim work), there you go you just cleared 252 dollars.
Realistically you will need more space, more time, more electricity, well more everything to produce 4 lb. of quality medical marijuana. You will probably be lucky to produce 2.5 to 3 lb. Let’s be honest quality and quantity aren’t found together very often, plus you are probably providing multiple patients with different needs so you need different strains for the different patients. That’s going cost the provider more time, space, equipment, and etc…
If you are providing your meds to a coop or a broker there will be a wholesale price, then a middle man price, and then a retail price. Now if the retail price is 25 dollars per ounce the grower will be getting another chunk added to the loss.
I’m not saying prices shouldn’t be reasonable but the caregiver or provider is still committing a federal felony, and risking their life and freedom to provide for someone else’s needs. I think that the caregiver or provider is entitled to a little compensation for their hard work and sacrifices don’t you?
Also realize that the growers (for the most part) aren't the ones making 500 dollars an ounce in the first place; not even close in most cases.

Would you like to be my CFO?

 

[420OldSchoolDJ420]

Having the Feds come and cut your crop down...$0

Spending time in a court trying to defend yourself with a court appointed attorney...$0

Getting thrown in ass rape prison for a victimless crime....Priceless!!


If you ask me the chance of getting thrown in ass rape prison alone is going to be worth $250 an ounce alone

You cant get into trouble if the crops are legal so your theory is flawed.. And after all, thats what this entire debate is actually about - MEDICAL MARUIJUANA.. Not the shit that ppl grow to sell for a profit illegally..Go back through my thread and read my posts about the "gvt regulated outside MMJ grow op" idea I had..

 

[can.i.buz]

Umm I don't think she has a business selling MJ bro. Im pretty sure she has some legitimate business providing some kind of service or product. I could be wrong about it, but to me it looks like you kinda stuck your foot in your mouth.

I have a few internet companies and an iPhone app. Thank you. AND I employ up to 10 people per project. AND, they love me.

 

[can.i.buz]

lol i think your just flat out lying now.. Cant argue with a liar.. Its a neverending circle.. Ill leave this thread to you to have at it as you wish.. This isnt fun or useful anymore. Gl with your ventures in the future..

thank you
.........
for leaving

 

[420OldSchoolDJ420]

He is just a little mad that he is totally wrong. He can try to take it out drug dealers. But most are busy selling drugs and not on RIU.

Sunlight dirt and rain are good enough to make marijuana for recreational use only. You have not read any of the posts about the quality of medicine? You want the seriously ill to be smoking bud that has not been kept in tip top shape?


I bet if you calculated how much it would cost in electric trimmers and workers to cultivate your MASS field of MJ, 25 dollars an ounce wouldnt cut it. And thats not even mentioning any other costs.

bla bla bla bla thats all i read.. kinda like the teacher from charlie brown was typing it.. im done.. this thread has given me a headache.. I feel like I just wasted a cpl hours of my precious time for no reason now.. unsubscribed

 

[kronic1989]

You cant get into trouble if the crops are legal so your theory is flawed.. And after all, thats what this entire debate is actually about - MEDICAL MARUIJUANA.. Not the shit that ppl grow to sell for a profit illegally..Go back through my thread and read my posts about the "gvt regulated outside MMJ grow op" idea I had..

So, where do dispensaries buy their weed from Old school?

 

[iivan740]

Would you like to be my CFO?

lol, I'm always looking for a good paying job in this economy.

 

[can.i.buz]

lol i think your just flat out lying now.. Cant argue with a liar.. Its a neverending circle.. Ill leave this thread to you to have at it as you wish.. This isnt fun or useful anymore. Gl with your ventures in the future..

wait a minute. Did you call me a liar! Do you want to take this outside. Credibility ZERO! I don't lie. I'm not smart enough to keep up with it and I enjoy my good karma. Just what exactly do you think I'm lying about?

 

[iivan740]

You cant get into trouble if the crops are legal so your theory is flawed.. And after all, thats what this entire debate is actually about - MEDICAL MARUIJUANA.. Not the shit that ppl grow to sell for a profit illegally..Go back through my thread and read my posts about the "gvt regulated outside MMJ grow op" idea I had..

I have to say this.
Medical marijuana is still marijuana and even if the state says it's legal the federal goverment says it's still illegal. The federal goverment still has a war on marijuana in full effect, and they are still raiding California sanctioned and legal medical marijuana grows and coops.
There is still a huge risk. Even if there wasn't the provider should be compensated for their efforts.

 

[NoDrama]

wait a minute. Did you call me a liar! Do you want to take this outside. Credibility ZERO! I don't lie. I'm not smart enough to keep up with it and I enjoy my good karma. Just what exactly do you think I'm lying about?

He obviously thinks your a weed baron robbing all the cancer patients blind with your 25cent grows and making loads of profit, trillions of dollars im sure.

Anybody that thinks More government is a good idea is not someone i would ever trust.

 

[nowstopwhining]

Please check out this thread on ASA's website. http://www.safeaccessnow.org/punbb/viewtopic.php?id=3108

These guys think that medical marijuana should be $25 an ounce but they don't want to grow it themselves. What a bunch of shit. Speak up growers!

I think mmj should be cheaper....but technically its still illegal so those guys are fighting a lot of bullshit and risking alot...dea and thieves alike love to rob them. they get evicted all the time...i dunno it seems like a ton of work and bullshit.

Prices should be lower...but not $25 an ounce from a middle man thats crazy talk...never gonna happen

 

[can.i.buz]

I wish all of you could have been at the LA city counsel PLUM meeting yesterday. The city attorney and the chief of police are STILL trying to make all "over the counter" sales and cultivation illegal in the city of LA. Dreamers beware. Let's get real!

 

[iivan740]

sunlight - $0.00
dirt - $0.00
rain - $0.00

not having to buy a new set of rims for your local drug dealer?

PRICELESS

No offence but I though we were talking about medical grade for legit medical patients.
How about this for a comparison. next time your sick and need penicillin just eat some moldy bread.
No disrespect intended but a provider is about as much a drug dealer as McNeil Pharmaceutical is. You think that they don't make money on penicillin? I bet the CEO has one hell of a set of rims on his bentley, and probably his ferrari too.

 

[naimad1234]

i work with a group that tries to do exactly that....its not easy but it is possible. don't usually deal in oz though, tends to create greed. but i know people who have and i myself have given away 1/4s and 1/8s to patients in need. when i have extras obviously.

 

[tcoupemn12]

i just read this whole thing haha some people if i devoted my life to making u top quality medicine (risking federal prosicution ) i better get what ever rims i want.
fuck that hippy bs . dude said he works 30hrs a week, who would do that free?