doobnVA please help me understand by answering the questions.
You say that socialism isn't total goverment control and redistribution. Let's say that you are right.
Two questions;
In your quote above you state that the minimum wage, tax credits, public assistance programs, and subsidized college tuition in America are expamples of socialism in america.
1) Who is in charge of those programs in America?
2) What is the effect of those programs in America?
total government control would be the government controlling EVERYTHING. Does subsidized tuition equate to the government controlling everything? Hardly.
Setting a minimum wage is not total control, nor is offering tuition grants to attend school or tax credits for low income individuals. These are government programs, so it should be pretty self explanatory as to who controls them.
Did I say government should control industry? Nope. I'm not opposed to a single payer health care system, though.
A single payer healthcare system isn't government control, either, if the hospitals remain private and the government simply pays the bills (like in Canada).
It's obvious that nobody reads the links I posted. Ask the Democratic Socialist party of America what they think socialism is. It isn't government control of everything, that's for sure.
I'm not advocating a pure socialist state. We already have socialist programs, I'd just like to see this expanded to health care.